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18 OCT 2008 at 10:49pm

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I've been trying to use the site to find out which new adventure games are worth playing, but there doesn't seem to be an easy way to do this.

It's easy enough to see which games are coming soon, but once these games have been released it's hard to find their reviews amongst the hundreds of others.

If I'm missing something please tell me.  If not, I'd like to suggest a "Recent Releases" section, that would contain reviews of all games released in, say, the past 6 months.

Sorry if this isn't the correct forum for site-related questions.  The site is excellent, by the way.  [smiley=clap.gif]

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19 OCT 2008 at 4:27am

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Hi Erido

Welcome to JA.

The Review section is alphabetical how much easier can it be?

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19 OCT 2008 at 4:48am

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I guess I didn't explain myself properly.  The trouble is, I don't know the names of all the games released in the 6-12 months.




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19 OCT 2008 at 4:49am

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Weren't you reading Greyfuss? Eridu wants a separate listing of recent games that are worth playing.  He doesn't want to scrawl through 26 letters.

Eridu,
Why not start a thread asking people to contribute which recent games they've played and if they're any good.   It would also help considerably if you introduced the question by explaining what sort of games you prefer.  That way members won't suggest you play the wrong sort of game.

The members here will welcome the chance to recommend games they've enjoyed.    I can't help as I'm replaying old games at the moment.  




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19 OCT 2008 at 5:13am

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Eridu

Check out Pagodas Adventure Game Database arranged by years then come back here to read the reviews http://www.pagodagamedatabase.com/

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19 OCT 2008 at 6:39am
Deleted UserGuys, no - I agree with Eridu. This site is pretty focused on older games, and while that is also nice, I think we should split the "What are you playing?" thread just a little by starting a more recent game thread as well.

It won't just be for Eridu's benefit; - I think there's a real need for it.

Problem is, - on this site  
where some people are still playing DOS games) games from two years back might still count as "recent games"...  


19 OCT 2008 at 7:46am

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Yes, the main site isn't the most user-friendly site around. It has been in need of drastic make-over for years.

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19 OCT 2008 at 4:16pm

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Is there a reason why the reviews couldn't simply be "filtered" or "sorted by" release date?

There are some good, free (open-source) database search apps designed for online catalogs, lists, etc. Perhaps one of them could be adapted to the JA+ site? That way, the user could select from a short list of parameters for searching all reviews and get a streamlined result page for only games released in the last 6, 12, 18, 24... months.

This would also spare the administrators from having to manually update the "most-recent reviews" list on a regular basis. Just give the user the option to sort / filter as they see fit and be done with it.

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19 OCT 2008 at 6:29pm

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There are two ways to do a "Hot List"

One is just to list them as they are released with info, and content and qualities

Two is to have same plus reviews and comments by players. It is helpful to have that added content info and feedback, but it woulid be voulentary and therefore would not necessarily cover ALL the games, as not everyone plays all the types of games there are, for instance i wont ever be playing any gory horror titles or speed based ones...but for adventure games i think you can bet someone here will be playing anything that comes out.  Just a matter if they will want to post comments.  Certainly worth a thread try.

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19 OCT 2008 at 7:14pm

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Sort the games by letter, by release date, and by review grade.


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19 OCT 2008 at 8:06pm
Deleted UserYou see, the problem is that most of us tend to mix old games with new. I do this myself, and as we have seen already with my attempted 'seperate' thread, this is the main factor that will produce problems with the members themselves attempting to post info.

Of course, latest releases are shown with previews/and/or links to reviews on the site's homepage; -I just don't think they keep a big enough list there. As far as I can see, as soon as they come off the homepage, they go straight into the mixed bag of recent, fairly recent and ancient stuff.

So maybe the sorting filter idea like Terry suggested?  Most marketplace sites have those these days, they're quite common.

Another gaming website has quite a nice system for official <-> member reviews; each game gets its own review thread as soon as it has been officially reviewed, in it's own board on the member's forum.  The specific board is purely for review purposes, and is arranged 0 -Z.



19 OCT 2008 at 8:50pm

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If you want to find out what new games are worth playing, one review won't tell you.  You can post a thread here asking for input. You can check the reviews on Amazon, JA, and other sites. You can look at all the screenshots available and watch the previews, then you download the demo if the developer bothered. After that, the game still might not be for you...but you're closer.

If the Upcoming table on this site can add sorting capability (perhaps also adding an icon link to each game's JA review) that seems to be the quickest fix.  

I've never had a big issue with this "lack" of organization, if that's what it is. I enjoy snooping and digging out the facts, truths, demos, and dates, building excitement along the way. Hmm, perhaps that's a game in itself. :


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o I get groupies?

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19 OCT 2008 at 9:40pm

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Originally Posted By Eridu (19 OCT 2008 4:47am)
I guess I didn't explain myself properly.  The trouble is, I don't know the names of all the games released in the 6-12 months.

Use Mobygames as their games DB search system is very good. JA+ should have had it's own system in place for this but that's another story.
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19 OCT 2008 at 10:21pm
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Originally Posted By TAS (19 OCT 2008 8:50pm)
If you want to find out what new games are worth playing, one review won't tell you.  You can post a thread here asking for input. You can check the reviews on Amazon, JA, and other sites. You can look at all the screenshots available and watch the previews, then you download the demo if the developer bothered. After that, the game still might not be for you...but you're closer.

If the Upcoming table on this site can add sorting capability (perhaps also adding an icon link to each game's JA review) that seems to be the quickest fix.  

I've never had a big issue with this "lack" of organization, if that's what it is. I enjoy snooping and digging out the facts, truths, demos, and dates, building excitement along the way. Hmm, perhaps that's a game in itself. :


Hey...I'm a Sorcerer Apprentice!  Woohoo!  Do I get groupies?


Er, no - you don't get either groupies or gropies, you only get to stir the pot...  


Anyway - no I hear what you say, Halcyon, that is, I suppose how most of us do it - one cannot really visit gaming sites regularly and not know what's new in the cooking, but there are people who get busy with work, etc., and don't have time to check as regularly and spend so much time on searching than some of us do.

What if there are people out there who want to spend their precious spare time playing games rather than searching for them?

19 OCT 2008 at 10:26pm

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Now you're talking crazy....

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20 OCT 2008 at 6:53am
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Originally Posted By TAS (19 OCT 2008 10:26pm)
Now you're talking crazy....



..what...- that some people don't have the time (or maybe even a fast internet connection) to search 10 or 20 sites before they are able to make a well-informed decision as to which game they want to purchase next... -is that crazy;

or

is it crazy that you don't get groupies just because you are now a sorcerer's apprentice ?   :

Sorry, pal - life's tough - you don't even get a cigar for becoming  a journeyman...   [smiley=shaking_head.gif]
..but I suppose congratulations are in order whenever you move up one - so congratulations on becoming a sorcerer's apprentice!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
-at least that means you can now do more important stuff than intergalactic janitor work!  [smiley=laughing.gif]

20 OCT 2008 at 10:47am

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-at least that means you can now do more important stuff than intergalactic janitor work


Yes, now you get to haul buckets of water and maybe... mop up afterwards.


Time to check out the security camera footage on what sorcerer's apprentices get up to....

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20 OCT 2008 at 1:13pm
Deleted User [smiley=laughing.gif]  Heh heh  -yep, we've got that Disney's Fantasia digitally remastered on disc. Apparently the Fantasia show was a big tech show-off back in the day when animation was something new and to be gaped at......
Yes, the poor little apprentice really gets himself into trouble there, doesn't he?

Of course the animation is accompanied by the work: "L'Apprenti Sorcier", by the French composer, Paul Dukas, who had based his symphonic work on a poem (on the same theme as shown by the animation) written by the German poet Goethe.

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20 OCT 2008 at 7:17pm

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I seem to remember a discussion way back about this board not having database capabilities and that it would take some major changes to make it that way.

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21 OCT 2008 at 4:38am

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Good ol' Lady Kestrel - old enough to lived through the past, not old enough to have forgotten it.  
   

nice hat, btw   :-*

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21 OCT 2008 at 5:01am

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I'm just trying to stay on topic, unlike some people around here I could name who try to change the subject at the drop of a hat.  

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21 OCT 2008 at 7:18am

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Can't imagine who you mean.   Yes.  Wore one like that last year if I remember....  :-*

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21 OCT 2008 at 11:46am

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I've been half-tempted to screen-scrape JA's reviews and build a database from the data in question so that I don't have to do the mental gynastics required to exclude reviews below B, or genres other than plain old adventure, etc.  I've privately complained about the lack of sortability before, too, but my primary concern at the time was finding the latest reviews (to play catch-up), and I eventually found that the news page was good enough for this.
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21 OCT 2008 at 11:27pm

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Good lord!  I seem to have wandered into a room full of geeks.  
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22 OCT 2008 at 1:32am

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Originally Posted By Caroline (21 OCT 2008 11:26pm)
 
Good lord!  I seem to have wandered into a room full of geeks.  
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What was your first clue Caroline? Our designer pocket protectors or our chest-level belts?  

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