| 26 JUL 2011 at 6:52pm |
FnordSchattenjger


Posts : 2758 Joined: 15 SEP 2008 Location: SE, Stockholm
Status : Offline | It is the other way around in this case actually. Fantasy wars (and its sequel Elven legacy) are in fact a huge step back. They are very similar to he classic panzer general series, borrowing not just the basic ideas, but also part of the mechanics of the game. This game hardly has a single fresh idea, but what it does it does really well, and for anyone who enjoys TBTs (turnbased tactical), it is a must.
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| 29 JUL 2011 at 1:50am |
AndromusGuild Master


Posts : 5540 Joined: 6 NOV 2002
Status : Offline | I've been playing quite a bit of Lord of the Rings Online, my deepest foray into an MMORPG by far. I'm a rather unsocial sort who loves a strong single player experience, so it's been an interesting contrast to my usual type of gaming to say the least, not to mention my sig. : I've got a lot more to say about it, but I think that will be better served by a separate thread.
And I've just started Bioshock. Extremely eerily atmospheric, it reminds me somewhat of Arkham Asylum, albeit underwater. Some pretty good writing behind it as well. I have some reservations about the vita-chambers as they (from what I've heard, I haven't taken advantage of them yet) let you continue more or less where you left off with a Big Daddy, retaining what damage you had done to him before you died? If so, it seems a little too easy. Granted, the two Big Daddies I've faced off against have been incredibly tough, strong, and fast, so maybe it evens out.
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| 30 JUL 2011 at 7:59am |
walshSorcerer Apprentice


Posts : 384 Joined: 15 DEC 2010
Status : Offline | Well I was desperate for something to play after finishing and loving Risen so I bought Crysis. Yeah, it's a shooter but it was cheap and everyone has been raving about it for the last 4 years.
It's boring. I enjoyed Farcry but this is just ... run around, kill some people, run around some more, get killed. Not much story to speak of. I'll keep going for a while but at the moment I'm just baffled why these games are so very popular.
What I really want is another game like Risen. I tried the DKS demo but it's not what i'm looking for with bad combat and generic fantasy themes. Same with Arcania. I might just have to wait for Risen 2.
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| 30 JUL 2011 at 9:32am |
FnordSchattenjger


Posts : 2758 Joined: 15 SEP 2008 Location: SE, Stockholm
Status : Offline | Try to force your way through the early parts of Gothic 1. The controls are awkward at first, but once you get used to them, they work rather well.
Also, why not try Vampire the masquerade: Bloodlines? It is far more story/dialogue intense than Risen, and its combat is really not that similar, nor is its underlying rule system, but it is a great game.
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| 30 JUL 2011 at 11:54am |
walshSorcerer Apprentice


Posts : 384 Joined: 15 DEC 2010
Status : Offline | I swore never to go back to Gothic again after my experience with G3, but Bloodlines is actually a great suggestion - I've been meaning to play it for ages.
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| 30 JUL 2011 at 12:50pm |
TravellerGuild Master


Posts : 4040 Joined: 3 JUL 2010 Location: US
Status : Offline | Yes, I remember bitterly complaining about the controls in Gothic when I played it for the first time about 5 years ago. The graphics are also offputting, but if you perservere, experiencing the game is worth it. I have fond memories indeed of the game.
I'm sad that you don't like DKS, Walsh. I'm not sure how far in you played, but whatever complaints I might have about the game, I didn't find it a generic experience, whether comparing it to DD1 or the D& high fantasy fare one usually gets.
Sure, it is probably boring if you play as warrior, but playing as a summoner/mage with only a touch of warrior, I found it a relatively unique experience.
* * * Just call me Trav. * * *
“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 30 JUL 2011 at 1:26pm |
walshSorcerer Apprentice


Posts : 384 Joined: 15 DEC 2010
Status : Offline | Well I didn't play for very long. The combat, like Arcania, just seemed really casual and no challenge at all. I played as a hunter and the battles consisted of rolling sideways, firing off an arrow and repeating. I couldn't defend either. I wanted something like Risen where I could hold the shield in front of me, then strike tactically.
Maybe I will give Gothic 1 a try despite the graphics, I should be able to get it cheap somewhere.
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| 30 JUL 2011 at 1:35pm |
TravellerGuild Master


Posts : 4040 Joined: 3 JUL 2010 Location: US
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By walsh (30 JUL 2011 1:26pm) Well I didn't play for very long. The combat, like Arcania, just seemed really casual and no challenge at all. I played as a hunter and the battles consisted of rolling sideways, firing off an arrow and repeating. I couldn't defend either. I wanted something like Risen where I could hold the shield in front of me, then strike tactically. Yes, combat itself if you are a warrior (and I presume a ranger too) is easy and not very tactical at the start of the game, though it never gets quite as easy as Arcania.
I admit that combat-wise most of the fun for me was in the spells and the creatures I was using. The gameworld is also extremely pretty, btw.
Maybe I will give Gothic 1 a try despite the graphics, I should be able to get it cheap somewhere.
Maybe you should look into getting the Gothic Universe pack - it inludes G1 and Gothic 2 NOTR, which is also a pretty good game. In fact, if you like a challenge, playing Night of the Raven is just what the doctor ordered for you.
I mention Gothic Universe, because back when I bought it, it was cheaper than buying any of the games seperately, and was how I managed to get hold of G1.
* * * Just call me Trav. * * *
“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 30 JUL 2011 at 8:54pm |
TravellerGuild Master


Posts : 4040 Joined: 3 JUL 2010 Location: US
Status : Offline | @ Walsh: I see GOG has Gothic 1 for 9.99 http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/gothic
* * * Just call me Trav. * * *
“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 31 JUL 2011 at 10:25am |
FnordSchattenjger


Posts : 2758 Joined: 15 SEP 2008 Location: SE, Stockholm
Status : Offline | Gothic 1-2 are relatively similar in their approach to gameplay, but Gothic 3 is vastly different. The combat in Gothic 1-2 requires you to block and know in which direction you should swing your weapon at each given time. Due to the very different nature of the controls in Gothic, the game has a relatively high learning curve, even if you are used to these types of games, but the system really rewards skill over button mashing (in gothic 2 with Night of the raven you will really struggle unless you get good at the game, it is one of the hardest games that I have ever finished).
But don't miss out on bloodlines, it is 5€ on steam at the moment. Gothic 1-2 are really good, but Bloodlines is actually better. Still, Gothic universe is a really good deal, so if you can find it, it is worth picking up.
Also, I started Aquaria just after I found out that I actually do own a copy of it (everyone who bought Humble indie bundle 2 got a copy of the first Humble indie bundle). It is an impressive indie game, with great graphics & sound, and well though out gameplay. It feels a bit like a Metroidvania game, but you swim instead of jump. Thus far it can't compete with the very best games in the sub-genre (Super Metroid & Castlevania Symphony of the night), but it is still very good.
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| 2 AUG 2011 at 7:37pm |
markornikovJourneyman

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Posts : 1312 Joined: 28 OCT 2011 Location: BE, Antwerp
Status : Offline | tried a demo of Limbo, but it's not my cup of tea.
Limbo is a 2D puzzle platform game in Noir style. You play as an young kid lost in a forest, the atmosphere is very grim, the kid can die in various horrific ways.
The idea is brilliant, but it's still a platformer and i suck at jumping. So in the end i'll just ruin my keyboard out of frustration
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| 2 AUG 2011 at 11:03pm |
AndromusGuild Master


Posts : 5540 Joined: 6 NOV 2002
Status : Offline | Thanks for the heads up on the Limbo demo! I didn't realize it was out.
Anyway, I enjoyed the demo. There's something about the starkness of the game that really works.Spoiler Alert Loved the bit of misdirection with the box beside the pond. That had me trying to maneuver the box into the water a few times before what I needed to do hit me.
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| 3 AUG 2011 at 2:13am |
JKingSchattenjger


Posts : 2350 Joined: 4 MAY 2008 Location: 0
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By markornikov (2 AUG 2011 7:37pm) tried a demo of Limbo, but it's not my cup of tea.
Limbo is a 2D puzzle platform game in Noir style. You play as an young kid lost in a forest, the atmosphere is very grim, the kid can die in various horrific ways.
The idea is brilliant, but it's still a platformer and i suck at jumping. So in the end i'll just ruin my keyboard out of frustration I'll have to try this, I think. I've been playing Trine lately, and while it is quite nice, there's something of a lack of challenge, since there's not much of a penalty for failure, and monster-slaying is rather perfunctory. Still, it's pretty and the puzzles are fun, so it's kind of whet my appetite a bit.
You can't kill someone in a studio.
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| 3 AUG 2011 at 3:51am |
DonaJourneyman


Posts : 801 Joined: 19 MAR 2005
Status : Offline | Ahhh thanks for letting us know the demo is out! /downloading
Been wanting to play that game for AGES.
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| 3 AUG 2011 at 10:59am |
TravellerGuild Master


Posts : 4040 Joined: 3 JUL 2010 Location: US
Status : Offline | Right, I know this sounds boring, but you'll never guess what bug has bitten me in the last few days :
I've re-discovered that playing chess on PC is pretty fun. Haven't played chess for ages, so it's kinda almost like discovering a new game, or re-discovering an oldie that you'd forgotten about.
* * * Just call me Trav. * * *
“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 3 AUG 2011 at 11:57am |
markornikovJourneyman

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Posts : 1312 Joined: 28 OCT 2011 Location: BE, Antwerp
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Andromus (2 AUG 2011 11:03pm) Spoiler Alert Loved the bit of misdirection with the box beside the pond. That had me trying to maneuver the box into the water a few times before what I needed to do hit me.
Oh, silly me, i'm stuck right there, dieing over and over again [smiley=doh.gif] But the solution is already forming in my head
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| 3 AUG 2011 at 2:02pm |
walshSorcerer Apprentice


Posts : 384 Joined: 15 DEC 2010
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By markornikov (2 AUG 2011 7:37pm) tried a demo of Limbo, but it's not my cup of tea.
Limbo is a 2D puzzle platform game in Noir style. You play as an young kid lost in a forest, the atmosphere is very grim, the kid can die in various horrific ways.
The idea is brilliant, but it's still a platformer and i suck at jumping. So in the end i'll just ruin my keyboard out of frustration
Thanks for the info, I checked out some previews and it looks a lot like Another World, one of my favorite games. I'll give the demo a go.
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| 3 AUG 2011 at 10:34pm |
FnordSchattenjger


Posts : 2758 Joined: 15 SEP 2008 Location: SE, Stockholm
Status : Offline | Just started MechCommander 2. 2 missions in and I'm already building up a respectable army of UrbanMechs.
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| 4 AUG 2011 at 2:16am |
StilerJourneyman


Posts : 1477 Joined: 27 SEP 2004 Location: US, TN
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By walsh (3 AUG 2011 2:01pm)
Originally Posted By markornikov (2 AUG 2011 7:37pm) tried a demo of Limbo, but it's not my cup of tea.
Limbo is a 2D puzzle platform game in Noir style. You play as an young kid lost in a forest, the atmosphere is very grim, the kid can die in various horrific ways.
The idea is brilliant, but it's still a platformer and i suck at jumping. So in the end i'll just ruin my keyboard out of frustration
Thanks for the info, I checked out some previews and it looks a lot like Another World, one of my favorite games. I'll give the demo a go.
The guy who made Another world has a new game coming out August 17th on the pc called From Dust. It's a god game (Like Populus) which just came out last week on xbla.
Itching to get it myself, but waiting for the pc release.
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| 4 AUG 2011 at 10:03am |
markornikovJourneyman

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Posts : 1312 Joined: 28 OCT 2011 Location: BE, Antwerp
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Stiler (4 AUG 2011 2:16am)
Originally Posted By walsh (3 AUG 2011 2:01pm)
Originally Posted By markornikov (2 AUG 2011 7:37pm) tried a demo of Limbo, but it's not my cup of tea.
Limbo is a 2D puzzle platform game in Noir style. You play as an young kid lost in a forest, the atmosphere is very grim, the kid can die in various horrific ways.
The idea is brilliant, but it's still a platformer and i suck at jumping. So in the end i'll just ruin my keyboard out of frustration
Thanks for the info, I checked out some previews and it looks a lot like Another World, one of my favorite games. I'll give the demo a go.
The guy who made Another world has a new game coming out August 17th on the pc called From Dust. It's a god game (Like Populus) which just came out last week on xbla.
Itching to get it myself, but waiting for the pc release.
I bought that one on pre-order, i love god sandbox games. The graphics and physics are beautifully done 8-)
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| 4 AUG 2011 at 3:41pm |
Child Of DunwichPrivate Detective


Posts : 480 Joined: 25 MAY 2011
Status : Offline | Counter Strike.
Nature's first green is gold,&&Her hardest hue to hold.&&Her early leaf's a flower;&&But only so an hour.&&Then leaf subsides to leaf.&&So Eden sank to grief,&&So dawn goes down to day.&&Nothing gold can stay.
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| 7 AUG 2011 at 7:22am |
walshSorcerer Apprentice


Posts : 384 Joined: 15 DEC 2010
Status : Offline | I just finished Limbo, and loved it. It's much more of a brainy puzzle game than a reflex game, you find yourself sitting there really thinking hard what to do. Got stuck a few times but didn't resort to a walkthrough, so I'm pretty proud of myself 8-) It's short but definitely worth it for $10 if you like this kind of game.
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| 7 AUG 2011 at 10:38am |
markornikovJourneyman

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Posts : 1312 Joined: 28 OCT 2011 Location: BE, Antwerp
Status : Offline | Veni vidi vici! The mojave wasteland is really a wasteland now 8-) Finished New Vegas a bit sooner than expected, the Legion branch is quite short. But i'm going to load an earlier save to have a more neutral ending, with Yes Man and do some more exploration, about 50% of the map is still unexplored
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| 7 AUG 2011 at 11:38am |
FnordSchattenjger


Posts : 2758 Joined: 15 SEP 2008 Location: SE, Stockholm
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By markornikov (7 AUG 2011 10:38am) Veni vidi vici! Those three words are giving me nightmares!
(from VVVVVV. In order to get the best ending, you need to gather some trinkets, and in order to do that, you need to finish that nightmare of a spike trap).
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