| 27 FEB 2011 at 7:13am |
XerNosamSorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By markornikov (22 FEB 2011 11:29pm)
I was going to re-play Fallout:NV but accidentally launched the game below in my steam library Far Cry 2. Then i thought why the hell not, let's start from scratch
I LOVE Far Cry 2. It got panned left and right by gamers (reviewers seemed to like it however). No zombies, mutants or aliens... just pure Africa mercenary goodnes. LOVE IT!
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| 27 FEB 2011 at 5:14pm |
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Status : Offline | Because it gets repetitive fairly quick, for an open land game it just didn't have much variety.
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| 27 FEB 2011 at 10:46pm |
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By krexfoster (27 FEB 2011 7:13am)
I LOVE Far Cry 2. It got panned left and right by gamers (reviewers seemed to like it however). No zombies, mutants or aliens... just pure Africa mercenary goodnes. LOVE IT!
The graphics, sooo much better than Crysis 8-)
The water reflection, the geography, the fire effects
And a big open world is always a plus
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| 28 FEB 2011 at 1:01am |
StilerJourneyman
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By markornikov (27 FEB 2011 10:46pm)
Originally Posted By krexfoster (27 FEB 2011 7:13am)
I LOVE Far Cry 2. It got panned left and right by gamers (reviewers seemed to like it however). No zombies, mutants or aliens... just pure Africa mercenary goodnes. LOVE IT!
The graphics, sooo much better than Crysis 8-)
The water reflection, the geography, the fire effects
And a big open world is always a plus
Graphically Crysis is superior to FC2, shaders, post processing effects, Crysis is still above far cry 2 easily when it comes to actual graphical output.
You might find the setting of FC2 more appealing, but when it comes to full high settings crysis is the better technically looking game.
It's sad that years down the road we still haven't had a game come out that undoubtedly took the crown from Crysis.
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| 28 FEB 2011 at 5:38pm |
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Status : Offline | Glad you got morrowind to work Trav, enjoy the journey. It is a wonderful world.
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| 28 FEB 2011 at 7:23pm |
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Status : Offline | Thanks Chris! Yes, it is truly huge, and all the more addictive when it looks prettier! 8-)
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| 28 FEB 2011 at 7:51pm |
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Stiler (28 FEB 2011 1:01am)
You might find the setting of FC2 more appealing.
Maybe it's just that. Every single object looks better in Crysis, but the overall picture doens't seem to fit.
http://pc.ign.com/dor/objects/951257/far-cry-2/images/far-cry-2--20081007102912163.html?page=mediaFull
http://pc.ign.com/dor/objects/14258182/crysis-warhead/images/300-pm-embargo-e3-2008-crysis-warhead-screens-20080711103002408.html?page=mediaFull
If i compare these screenshots from both games, the one from Crysis looks unreal. There's something wrong with the lighting and shadows
Ofcourse games are a form of digital art, it's always very subjective which one looks better.
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| 28 FEB 2011 at 11:22pm |
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Status : Offline | Those rocks don't look very good in that crysis screenshot...
The two games use the same engine, don't they?
I've reached the imperial city in Jade empire. The game looks really nice, and the setting is quite different from most other games. I do feel that the party needs to be fleshed out a bit more. After going from KOTOR 2, where every party member has a lot of personality, the ones in Jade empire feels rather undeveloped & uninteresting. I also find the camera to be a bit of an issue, but overall the game is fun to play, and it would be nice if BioWare made more games in this setting, rather than in a basic European high medieval fantasy setting.
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| 28 FEB 2011 at 11:51pm |
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Status : Offline | No, FC2 uses it's own engine. Both games look great, and crysis does have drawbacks (I think the lighting sun rays can look better in FC2).
Didn't really enjoy either game really though, in terms of gameplay. I loved Far cry, Crysis just seemed to be too gung ho/super cop. FC2 just got repetitive after a bit.
Jade Empire, that's the only Bioware game I couldn't get into. It just felt too "stereotypical" for me. Every character and thing just got on my nerves and things felt very rough. Like a step between KOTOR and MAss Effect, where Bioware didn't know exactly what the game was meant to be and kind of left it in the middle.
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| 1 MAR 2011 at 8:14am |
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Fnord (28 FEB 2011 11:22pm)
I've reached the imperial city in Jade empire. The game looks really nice, and the setting is quite different from most other games. I do feel that the party needs to be fleshed out a bit more. After going from KOTOR 2, where every party member has a lot of personality, the ones in Jade empire feels rather undeveloped & uninteresting.
You find? I loved the characters... :-X ...and don't forget there are romance options. Are you talking to your people? Anyway, you still have a lot of playing to do.
If I wasn't so tied up in business dealings, work and acedemia atm. not to mention Morrowind, I would definitely be right beside you now - fighting off ghosts...
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| 1 MAR 2011 at 8:36am |
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Status : Offline | Well, it would seem like they flesh out the characters quite a bit in Chapter 3, but before that, they shared very little of their past with you.
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| 1 MAR 2011 at 9:21am |
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Stiler (28 FEB 2011 11:50pm)
No, FC2 uses it's own engine. Both games look great, and crysis does have drawbacks (I think the lighting sun rays can look better in FC2).
Didn't really enjoy either game really though, in terms of gameplay. I loved Far cry, Crysis just seemed to be too gung ho/super cop. FC2 just got repetitive after a bit.
Jade Empire, that's the only Bioware game I couldn't get into. It just felt too "stereotypical" for me. Every character and thing just got on my nerves and things felt very rough. Like a step between KOTOR and MAss Effect, where Bioware didn't know exactly what the game was meant to be and kind of left it in the middle.
Rough? Surely you don't many graphically speaking, since JE is at least graphically speaking a lot more polished than KOTOR. Also, you always at least know what to do next in JE. Also, in JE at least the setting and story is fresh, new and intrigueing, whereas KOTOR and ME are just one more game set in space with spaceships and aliens.
I know all gamers on the planet will chide me for saying so, but I again couldn't "get into" KOTOR, and not for lack of trying. I tried at least twice, but I get bored and lost more or less still at the beginning stage where you've buddied up with that male pal of yours and you had a look at those fights in the arena. I've wandered around for hours in that area with no clue what to do next to make the game progress a little.
As for ME, could one have more "faceless" and personalityless characters than your companions in ME? If this changes later on in the game, I wouldn't know, since my game never allows me to get past the point where you rescue the scientist! [smiley=hair_pull.gif]
PS. Perhaps I should rather try out Kotor 2? I do own a copy, but never installed it, thinking I'd need to play KOTOR 1 first.
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| 1 MAR 2011 at 9:53am |
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Status : Offline | KOTOR does not begin to shine until after the Jedi academy. The lower city part of the first planet is one of the main reasons why I have not replayed the game, as I found all the poison to be frustrating (it did not make the game hard, as a healer existed nearby, but it made that part of the game slow & irritating).
And the game suffers from the force being a case of Applied phlebotinum (which is a problem for almost everything star wars related).
And I always thought that Far cry 2 was made by crytech, and thus assumed that it used the same engine as Crysis, it would seem like I was wrong all along.
*edit* KOTOR 2 can be played without having first finished KOTOR 1, it takes place some time after the first game and while the events are referenced to a lot, it is a self contained game.
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| 1 MAR 2011 at 1:54pm |
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Fnord (1 MAR 2011 9:53am)
*edit* KOTOR 2 can be played without having first finished KOTOR 1, it takes place some time after the first game and while the events are referenced to a lot, it is a self contained game.
Ah, thanks. Maybe I'll like it better. Will give it a try sometime.
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| 1 MAR 2011 at 4:36pm |
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Status : Offline | If you can get past the Jedi trials in KOTOR 1 I'd suggest sticking with it. The story in KOTOR I found a lot better, especially the twists in it.
KOTOR 2 was decent, but like many Obsidian sequels to Bioware games, it doesn't live up to the originals (Unlike Fallout NV vs Fallout 3, which I felt was their best to date), still a good game but if you had to play through just one, most people will tell you to go KOTOR 1 over II.
Originally Posted By placeholder (1 MAR 2011 9:21am)
Rough? Surely you don't many graphically speaking, since JE is at least graphically speaking a lot more polished than KOTOR. Also, you always at least know what to do next in JE. Also, in JE at least the setting and story is fresh, new and intrigueing, whereas KOTOR and ME are just one more game set in space with spaceships and aliens.
I know all gamers on the planet will chide me for saying so, but I again couldn't "get into" KOTOR, and not for lack of trying. I tried at least twice, but I get bored and lost more or less still at the beginning stage where you've buddied up with that male pal of yours and you had a look at those fights in the arena. I've wandered around for hours in that area with no clue what to do next to make the game progress a little.
As for ME, could one have more "faceless" and personalityless characters than your companions in ME? If this changes later on in the game, I wouldn't know, since my game never allows me to get past the point where you rescue the scientist! [smiley=hair_pull.gif]
PS. Perhaps I should rather try out Kotor 2? I do own a copy, but never installed it, thinking I'd need to play KOTOR 1 first.
With JE when I say rough I mean design wise, I did play it after KOTOR and a few years down the road after it was out. It just felt that they didn't know exactly what they wanted the game design to be like, rpg, action, mix them or not. With this on top of the stereotypical Chinese characters it just bored me.
As far as ME's companions go, are you talking to them a lot? Like Dragon age, you really have to converse with them (on your ship, between missions, etc) so they open up a lot as the game goes, each giving a personal quest and things that give a greater depth to their character.
Just treat them like you would DA's characters, talk to them, say things they like, etc to uncover more about them and they'll open up more and more as the game goes on.
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| 1 MAR 2011 at 5:05pm |
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Status : Offline | Trav if you try KoTOR2 be sure to use the update and restoration patch developed by the community, it restores lost content that was all done by the developers but not put into the game (it WAS in the game files so they obviously hoped it could get in somehow) and fixes bugs. It makes a huge difference. I agree are ME, it was lovely and a wonderful story and setting but the other characters were props. Jade Empire rocks, I love the theme and have studied oriental literature and culture for years and it is the fullest visual engagement with classic themes of that ilk we have yet in any medium, bar none. Keep going and enjoy, it gets better and better. The only negative were the mini games in flight, i wish we could have actually see things from the air..but i guess there are limits to budgets.
Ironically the in flight mini combats in KoTOR were horrible too. they totally blew the chance to let us see Star Wars in space, but hopefully they will make ammends with the new MMORPG of the Republic era that will in fact give each of us our own space ship to fly.
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| 2 MAR 2011 at 2:23am |
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Status : Offline | Cris, you will probably be disappointed to learn this, but the space battles in the upcoming mmorpg, The Old Republic, are "on rails" types of shooting, a la Starfox style.
It kind of took me back, I mean why can't we just have some good Tie Fighter type of space combat with a customizable ship we can build/upgrade the same as our avatar? that'd be awesome.
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| 2 MAR 2011 at 4:25am |
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Status : Offline | I found the core story to be better in KOTOR 1, but KOTOR 2 had better character interaction & your team members were more fleshed out. You also had more options in KOTOR 2.
Chapter 3 & 4 are now done in Jade empire. 4 was incredibly short.
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| 2 MAR 2011 at 7:27am |
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Status : Offline | Oh dear Stiller, that is sad. I had not known that, I registered for the site for that new game but have not kept up with things.... gee, i had thought we might have free roaming of some kind... ah well.
Yes it would be great to have Wing Commander Privateer style roaming available. maybe someday.
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| 2 MAR 2011 at 11:32am |
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Status : Offline | Eve online offers quite a bit of freedom & space combat, does it not? And are the servers for Earth & Beyond still active? (I highly doubt it, but there are older MMOs out there that people still play).
Chapter 5 was short as well, and it feels like I'm about halfway trough chapter 6.
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| 2 MAR 2011 at 1:15pm |
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Fnord (2 MAR 2011 11:32am)
Eve online offers quite a bit of freedom & space combat, does it not? And are the servers for Earth & Beyond still active? (I highly doubt it, but there are older MMOs out there that people still play).
But Eve online gets boring really fast.
Mining, levelling, travelling, takes ages to complete.
I had high hopes for Infinity: Quest for Earth
http://www.infinity-universe.com/Infinity/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12&Itemid=33
Which is a space MMORPG developed by amateurs.
Stunning graphics, randomly generated persistent universe, seemless transition between space and planets (which all should have been explorable)
Alas it seems they're now focussing on developing a game engine, and using the game as an advertisement for game developers, if it ever gets released
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| 2 MAR 2011 at 2:03pm |
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Fnord (2 MAR 2011 11:32am)
Eve online offers quite a bit of freedom & space combat, does it not? And are the servers for Earth & Beyond still active? (I highly doubt it, but there are older MMOs out there that people still play).
Chapter 5 was short as well, and it feels like I'm about halfway trough chapter 6.
Eve online uses a terrible mmo style "auto attack" combat, it's not real time space action.
Earth and Beyond shut down years ago. However as a matter of fact, ijt was one of the FEW space games (not just mmo, but the entire space game genre) that had a within the ship view that actually let you see your avatar sitting in thei ship.
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| 2 MAR 2011 at 7:45pm |
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Status : Offline | Aside from my usual World of Warcraft, I've been doing a lot of handheld gaming lately.
Since December, I've finished Professor Layton and the Unwound Future, Might and Magic: Clash of Heroes and Ghost Trick.
I'm currently finishing up Final Fantasy. Yeah, the first one. On the GBA.
And I just started Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story and I can tell that I am going to love it!
Remember, procrastinate now. Don't put it off!!
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| 3 MAR 2011 at 5:54am |
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Status : Offline | And now I'm done with Jade empire. Chapter 1-3 were rather lengthy, but chapter 4-7 were less than an hour each, with no real side quests.
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