| 25 JAN 2011 at 11:09am |
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By placeholder (25 JAN 2011 7:49am)
Perhaps I'd better push to finish the darn thing before I need to upgrade again... :-[
Or you shouldn't allow yourself to upgrade unless you've finished Gothic 3
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| 3 FEB 2011 at 8:36am |
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Status : Offline | I'm going to admit something horrible now. I did go back to G3, and it seems I last played about 17 months ago. (Sept 2009). I find myself in Nordmar. When I restored my last save, it seems I was busy trading with some trader there.
However, I couldn't remember what my still outstanding "to-do" quests were, so I consulted my log.
It said I had to go give some hides to the Hammer Clan and something else with one of the other clans. So I trot off and almost get myself killed by all the hordes of sabretooths, woolly rhino's and goblins and finally manage to find the tribe, but I have no idea who to talk to.
I go and talk to a named NPC who gives me a quest to go and clear out a mine with people I have to recruit to go with me, but I have no idea where the mine is, and I feel lost and disoriented in the game.
Moral of the story. I should FINISH my RPG's before stopping them and carrying on with something else. Argh, and I stopped Div 2 to restart it with the expansion pack before I got to the end, but I guess that's ok, since I plan to restart from scratch.
However, this is a lesson to me not to start anything new before I've finished what I'm busy with.
Which means I have a heck of a lot of RPG-ing to finish before Witcher 2 and DA2 arrives... *sweat* [smiley=scared.gif]
Anyway, I am determined now, not to start with Two Worlds 2 until I've finished either Gothic 3 or NOTR. No, make it G3.
Argh, this is like going on diet or something, now that I'm not "allowed" to start TW2, I'm craving it, and feel so curious about it.
Naughty Traveller! [smiley=indie.gif] [smiley=doh.gif]
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| 3 FEB 2011 at 10:09am |
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Teaser from the forsaken gods patch.
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| 18 FEB 2011 at 5:39pm |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Offline | This time I'm determined to finish Gothic 3. I'm starting to get bored with the fact that I have to redo so many quests, because I'd restarted the game a few times, and sadly a lot of them are fetch and carry quests.
I need to still finish G2:NOTR before I can vent an opinion re the latter, but I'd definitely say that Gothic 1 had a much more interesting and engrossing story than G3.
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"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 18 FEB 2011 at 6:23pm |
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Status : Offline | Re your post in the other thread, Chris : since you got me interested in the desert, with your post, I decided to ditch Nordmar for now, and go back past Trellis so I can go and check out the desert.
Well! When I arrived at Trellis, I realised that although I'd almost finished with Trellis in my previous playthough, I have done next to nothing in it in my current playthrough, so here I go again, -repeating quests...
Luckily i had not done much in the desert in my previous playthorughs so hopefully everything will be nice and fresh for me once i finally arrive there.
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“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 20 FEB 2011 at 7:31am |
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Status : Offline | it is fun, esp at night, the night scenes in the desert are some of the most beuatiful and well done of any game..i used to camp in the desert years ago and those scenes in Gothic brought it all back...mind you you do have to watch out for jackals, bandits and other nasties we dont usually find in the desert in real life.
I am glad you are enjoying it..yes lots of fetch and carry but...hey it is fun too. And i love the fully voiced dialog that alone gets Gothic III high marks. Must have taken a LOT of work to voice all those lines.
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| 20 FEB 2011 at 10:26am |
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Status : Offline | A sad thing is happening with me though. Even with all settings on "low" I get such horrible lag every 7 - 10 seconds that it makes me sea-sick. At best the screen would freeze for a few seconds, but what gets me is that it often makes the field of vision either spin a bit or rock back and forth for a second or two once the 'freeze' stops.
I can't remember the game being this bad when I got the vanilla version. Sure, back then it gave me visual artefacts, but i feel pretty sure the performance was better...
As far as I know, I've got all the official patches applied, and up to, I think 1.7 of the community patches. or it might be 1.6, but at least up to 1.6).
My rig can run modern games like Dragon Age, Drakensang:ROT and Divinity 2 no problem, most settings on high - beautiful res and detail, no lag on those games.
In fact, I ran Risen, the spiritual successor of G3 beautifully too, no problems at all.
Any suggestions?
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"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 20 FEB 2011 at 4:25pm |
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By placeholder (20 FEB 2011 10:26am)
Any suggestions?
I am likewise mystified, after playing the game for a bit this weekend. It just seems to be shoddy underpinnings, because my machine is perfectly able to play Arcania with fine performance, and Gothic 3 does indeed stutter along.
Best I can tell, you're either lucky and it only stutters sometimes, or you're not. A solid-state disk might be the "final solution" to Gothic 3, since they have virtually no seek time and very fast read throughput (good-quality ones do, anyway), but they're still quite expensive, of course.
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| 20 FEB 2011 at 4:37pm |
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By JKing (20 FEB 2011 4:25pm)
Originally Posted By placeholder (20 FEB 2011 10:26am)
Any suggestions?
I am likewise mystified, after playing the game for a bit this weekend. It just seems to be shoddy underpinnings, because my machine is perfectly able to play Arcania with fine performance, and Gothic 3 does indeed stutter along.
Best I can tell, you're either lucky and it only stutters sometimes, or you're not. A solid-state disk might be the "final solution" to Gothic 3, since they have virtually no seek time and very fast read throughput (good-quality ones do, anyway), but they're still quite expensive, of course.
I hope that you're not suggesting that I buy a new, very expensive hard drive just for Gothic 3, Mr King...
I might, just might be driven to such extremes for Witcher 2, but no other game is going to have that privelege, I can tell you! Anyway, those discs are too expensive for me - they're many times the price of the humble hard drives I can afford... believe me, I looked into it when buying my previous hard drive... :-/
Anyway, I'm not sure if i should say i'm glad or sad that you're experiencing the same - mostly sad, I guess, though glad that at least it doesn't signify anything "wrong" with my system...
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"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 20 FEB 2011 at 4:52pm |
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By placeholder (20 FEB 2011 4:37pm)
I hope that you're not suggesting that I buy a new, very expensive hard drive just for Gothic 3, Mr King...
Absolutely not, but it's probably the only thing to do which would actually have a positive impact.
Anyway, those discs are too expensive for me - they're many times the price of the humble hard drives I can afford... believe me, I looked into it when buying my previous hard drive... :-/
They're becoming affordable now, but the sizes are less than large, still. I expect it will be another few years before they really become attractive.
Anyway, I'm not sure if i should say i'm glad or sad that you're experiencing the same - mostly sad, I guess, though glad that at least it doesn't signify anything "wrong" with my system...
Yeah, it's not just you; that's for sure. Shame, though. :-/
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| 21 FEB 2011 at 7:03am |
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Status : Offline | ahem. it is NOT your system Trav no matter what anyone says, it is fine. the problem you are experiencing is the memory lag problem known for years and fixed with the patches. I will have to dig for the info again but it is that that is causing that problem. If you have the 1.6 patch that should fix that problem but it sounds like you are hitting that wall ...and as i said it is a very well known problem in the gothic community. Research on their website will provide that info quickly.
as i recall i use the 1.5 patch and it fixed the memory leak very well.
As i recall you have a good amount of RAM too, i have 3 GB and that helped a lot with that problem ..... i do believe it is fixable and to continually upgrade perfectly good computers is nonesense for anyone and esp for serious gamers....a good rig will run most good games and the ones that cause problems are not worth adding a system to play. The developers who jump into bed with console makers are anathema to any of us who love quality game design...and the upgrade avalanche is a silly waste of tech and money.
I will review my Gothic notes tomorrow, sorry you have run into that old bugabooo.
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| 21 FEB 2011 at 9:26am |
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Status : Offline | Thanks, Chris!
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| 21 FEB 2011 at 2:43pm |
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Status : Offline | i have to work this morning but if you need info faster than i can dig, i did post about this several years ago in the gothic discussion with info on the leak. I will try to get to this as soon as i can get some work done ....and i do hope we can fix your problem. back soon.
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| 21 FEB 2011 at 3:24pm |
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By CrisGer (21 FEB 2011 2:42pm)
i have to work this morning but if you need info faster than i can dig, i did post about this several years ago in the gothic discussion with info on the leak. I will try to get to this as soon as i can get some work done ....and i do hope we can fix your problem. back soon.
Hey, no rush, Chris - I also have to work and will only have time to play properly again a few day's time. :-*
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“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 22 FEB 2011 at 10:07pm |
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Status : Offline | Traveller, the same problems plagued me in Gothic 3. Between that and the horrific loading times (exacerbated by the frequent need to reload after dying) really brought the game down for me.
SO: Is Risen basically like Gothic 3, but without the problems?
Remember, procrastinate now. Don't put it off!!
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| 22 FEB 2011 at 10:10pm |
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Status : Offline | Risen is more like Gothic 1 & 2 (actually it is in many ways, including the story, like Gothic 2). Combat feels a bit more involved in Risen and it is, overall, a very good game.
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| 23 MAR 2011 at 12:04pm |
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Status : Offline | Good news everyone!
http://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/showthread.php?t=902795&page=10
Gothic 3: forsaken gods has finally received the patch that it deserved. The people who made the original Gothic 3 fan patch has finished their forsaken gods patch (and they even got payed for it)
They have a torrent for their fan patch, that they want people to use, in order to lessen server load. I'm currently downloading it through their torrent, and I'm getting good speed (I'll also let people download it from me for a while, with my 100/100 line, I'm sure that that will give a nice boost to the torrent).
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| 9 APR 2011 at 11:14pm |
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Status : Offline | I'm currently playing this one for the first time, and i'm really overwhelmed by the huge gameworld to explore, i'm lovin' it 8-)
I've already run into some really nasty beasties
Once i ventured a bit north of silden and ran into 2 hulky monsters, so i ran into the woods and encountered 2 huge dino's. :-/ so i kept on running entered a cave and ran into a dragon, then i hit reload because i knew that situation would never have ended well :'(
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| 16 DEC 2011 at 9:29am |
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Status : Offline | Found this while looking for an Ob mod thread and thought I'd resurrect it before it disappears into the grey mists (pixels?)of cyberspace. I haven't resurrected the game since upgrading my PC, and i admit i have been in some trepidation of going through the whole patching rigmarole again....
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"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 16 DEC 2011 at 9:42am |
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Status : Offline | Patch 1.5 or 1.6 will do the trick Trav, easy peasy.
I am going to play this again after Christmas myself, as I have neve finished it, i am still doing quests in the Desert.
I look forward to it with my new graphics card and better computer.
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| 16 DEC 2011 at 9:59am |
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Status : Offline | Cool, so 1.6 is all-inclusive? I remember that was the last one i used... is that the community or official patch? 
K, c u in Myrtana! 
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“Despite my ghoulish reputation, I really have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk.” - Robert Bloch
"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 16 DEC 2011 at 12:15pm |
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Status : Offline | do the official patches first and then 1.6, it should work fine. I use 1.6 over the later versions as that way my save games work and it fixes everything that needs fixing including the memory leak.
Ya i look forward to seeing the wintery northlands in Gothic, never made it up there, i have spent the majority of my time in the desert....which I love but i do look forward to seeing the woods.
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| 16 DEC 2011 at 12:26pm |
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Status : Offline | Ok, will do in that order. I'd also like to use my old gamesaves, i couldn't face starting from scratch again.
If you go North, do keep your eyes peeled for beasties sleeping in the snow. The snow is packed with hostiles and it's easy to run away from one pack of nasties right into the waiting arms of a pack of goblins or yet more nasty beasties.
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"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 16 DEC 2011 at 6:31pm |
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Status : Offline | wow, thanks, i had no idea the Snow Country would be so dangerous, i was looking forward to Mugs of hot Mead by the campfire and maybe a bit of downhill Shield Sledding
I shall go carefully in to that Snowy Night. I hope our faithful avatars can pick up some warm woolies and snow shoes somewhere.
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