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| 30 DEC 2009 at 5:07pm |
CrisGerSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | That IS funny and fun.... and part of the fun of sharing here is that we all have the courage and mutual respect to share our feelings and thoughts so openly and so nicely. It is refreshing for me to be able to say what I think and not feel like anyone is wrong or right, just that this is how we all feel. Makes it lots of fun to explore and share.
on with the hunt snow deep here today and a good day for gaming.
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| 30 DEC 2009 at 10:57pm |
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Status : Offline | Can't wait to fire up G3 and see what it's made of. It'll have to wait in line, though.
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| 26 JAN 2010 at 7:57am |
FnordSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | When is it safe to start liberating towns? I have gotten all the fire chalices, bought the expensive "thing" (50 000g) from the orc, and have found two others (that leaves 2, one of which is in the northern part, and one of which is supposed to be carried by an NPC who I have to kill, according to a quest, although he is in a well guarded town). Do I risk breaking the game if i start liberating towns at this point, or can I safely do so?
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| 26 JAN 2010 at 10:58am |
| Deleted User | Fnord, I never completely finished the game, but I know that you can at least start liberating one or two without worries. (If you already have quite a lot of influence with the Orcs, of course, by having done a bunch of quests for them.)
The trick lies in the balance of favour you have with the different parties, and I don't know if you play RPG's like I do ; but I tend to have a sheet or 2 of paper at hand, and I jot down stats as I go along to see which actions cause what to happen to the stats.
So, if I were you, (which I'm not ) I would jot down what liberating some towns - Reddock would be a good start - does to the balance of favour.
In any case - what does it really matter; you have obviously decided for against the Orcs, so if I was you I'd just make a save in big bold letters when you see you're at the point of no return, just in case you want to go back to that save and try out different outcomes.
Please let us know how it went! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
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| 27 JAN 2010 at 7:11pm |
FnordSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | I finished the artifact quests, and after that I got a quest to liberate Myrtana, so I did so. Now the citizens of Myrtana can finally go back to the lives that they lived before the orc invasion, as not a single city remains in the hands of the foul invaders.
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| 27 JAN 2010 at 8:12pm |
| Deleted User | Heee hee hee hee! Well, done Fnord! [smiley=beer_buds.gif] I really bow down to you... [smiley=bowdown.gif]
One of these days is one of these days, and I'm going to follow in your footsteps... -you'll see!
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| 28 JAN 2010 at 6:08am |
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Status : Offline | congrats Fnord, great work, well done indeed. I am sure the inhabitants will feel much better being free of the invaders yoke.
good show!
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| 28 JAN 2010 at 11:26am |
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Status : Offline | The slaves and nomads of Varant are now free to do as they wish, they shall no longer have to suffer under the ruling hashishin. The hashishin's leader Zuben lies dead outside Ishtar. The orcs were defeated in the north, and the hammer clan are again in control of their mine. All is well, and Innos stands victorious in the war of the gods. And Xardas? Well, no-one knows, I did not kill him, and he was not mentioned during the ending sequence. I guess he was not that important after all (even tough he was the person who caused the whole thing...)
I'm done with the game *smiles* It really was another really well crafted game, and for the most part, I really enjoyed it. There was one thing that bugged me about it (and gothic 2 as well), and that was how some of the important NPCs changed personality between the games. Lee was a charismatic and levelheaded leader of men, but in Gothic 3 he was a man who's only wish was to kill the king. Diego might have been someone who mainly looked out for himself in the first game, but he was no coward. In gothic 2, he whined a lot, and did seem like a bit of a coward, and in gothic 3 he returned to his original personality. Gorn lost a bit of his dedication in gothic 2. Only Milton really seemed to be the same trough the entire series. It might be nitpicky, but things like that bugs me.
Oh, and a hint to anyone who want to play the game: Do the south before you go north. You really need all the experience that you can get before going north, because sabertooths are dangerous (even tough I could take on an entire city on my own, 2 sabertooths could still kill me without much of a problem).
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| 31 JAN 2010 at 5:14pm |
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Status : Offline | And the south, the desert regions are amazing ..they are beautifully done and rank among the most unquie and remarkable of any game world region i have seen, beautifully done.
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| 31 JAN 2010 at 6:55pm |
| Deleted User | Heh, you need only check out all the pictures I've ever posted of "me" lying dead in the snow... it was mostly in Nordmar that I died. Admittedly, I never got very far in Varant.
Well, if I ever get through my tons of books, I must attempt this game properly, right to the finish. Well done Fnord!
Now, if you enjoyed the world of Gothic, and want more, you could always try out Risen
However, I can also recommend Divinity 2 since you've already done DA
I guess you mentioned you'll be doing ME2 next, but after that perhaps?
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| 1 FEB 2010 at 10:46am |
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Status : Offline | I'll probably play Risen in a not too distant future, and gothic 4 will be released relatively soon as well. It might not be by the same team, but i'll still give it a try. Also, when the forsaken gods fanpatch is released, i'll try that game.
Thanks for the Divinity 2 advice. I'll give the game a try, although I think i'll play the first game first (it's only $6 on GOG anyway). But before anything else, i'm going to play Mass effect 2, and finish Okami.
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| 1 FEB 2010 at 1:17pm |
| Deleted User | The first Divinity is nice, but muuucch older than Ego Draconis, and it shows.
Well, enjoy.
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| 18 JUN 2010 at 6:08pm |
CrisGerSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | I am resuming my play thru of Gothic III with my new system and it runs very very nicely. I can see everything now all the detail and what a world it is. I have to re learn some skills and how to not get killed by the dumbest things. I am at a little village on the water in the desert area, and laughing at the locals growing "weed".....i love the detail, and the fun dialogue, the voice acting really is fun, it is quite NON american and more european in flavour which is a great blessing as the US games seem so often very sterotypical and bland in such areas...
this will be fun. I have a funny line happening in the water in the distance, i guess the shaders are not happy showing the advance into distance....anyone else remember that and or a fix for it? i am playing with the 1.5 community patch, did not advance to 6 or 8 to keep my old saves working.
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| 30 OCT 2010 at 11:59am |
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Status : Offline | I'm bumping this thread in case people were thinking of buying it, or replaying it, or resuming their playthroughs of it, (which I might just as well do as trying to push on with Arcania).
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"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 21 NOV 2010 at 11:01am |
FnordSchattenjger
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http://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/showthread.php?t=902795
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| 21 NOV 2010 at 2:06pm |
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Status : Offline | Thanks for the heads up, Fnord.
I started with Forsaken Gods way back when, but quit because I had so much flickering taking place. Let's hope the patch makes it better.
Have you got Forsaken Gods yet?
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| 21 NOV 2010 at 5:39pm |
FnordSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | Yep, I got it when I bought the other Gothic games, but decided to not play it until a fan patch was released for it, which should be soon.
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| 21 NOV 2010 at 5:59pm |
TravellerGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Fnord (21 NOV 2010 5:39pm)
Yep, I got it when I bought the other Gothic games, but decided to not play it until a fan patch was released for it, which should be soon.
Right. Plz let me know too if that patch works well for you - I'll do the same on here if I happen to go first. (..but it's likely you'll get it before I do).
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"They are not reciprocally sublated--the one does not sublate the other externally--but each sublates itself in itself and is in its own self the opposite of itself" (Hegel, from The Doctrine of Being)..."
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| 21 NOV 2010 at 6:18pm |
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Status : Offline | The community patches for Gothic III are excellent and the only way to play the game reliably plus they have worked to restore or turn on many things that the developers left in a state in which things did not work or show up correctly. In time, they produce fully functional patches that really improve things, ...and major problems like the memory problem get solved ....but sometimes it takes years. Gothic III remains one of the most complex worlds yet created and is a joy to spend time in.
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| 24 JAN 2011 at 7:56pm |
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Status : Offline | I put many, many hours into Gothic 3 and then just got bogged down. I freed all of Myrtania (if that's the name of the "middle" landmass) and half of the snow continent. I'm about a dozen hours into the sand continent. I don't know if it was all the traveling I was doing which was interrupting my flow, or the release of Cataclysm, but I find myself not particularly interested in returning to it.
Maybe I'm at a point in my gaming life where 200 hour games just aren't the right choice for me.
Remember, procrastinate now. Don't put it off!!
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| 24 JAN 2011 at 8:05pm |
CrisGerSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | Gothic III is a huge game and has a ton of detail and some of the quests in the desert area are hard to complete as you have to hunt all over for some things and some of the quests themselves were buggy and have been fixed by numerous community patches. I hope you remembered not to antagonize or kill too many of the Orcs because if you do it is impossible to finish some of the quests..it is tempting to slaughter them as they are the invaders but it is a problem for completion of the game if you liberate more than 3 cities that they occupy as they will then not speak with you and you cant finish quests.
I have put Gothic III away several times without finishing it, so I am in the same boat....it is a lot o fun tho and has amazing detail.
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| 24 JAN 2011 at 9:35pm |
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By CrisGer (24 JAN 2011 8:05pm)
I hope you remembered not to antagonize or kill too many of the Orcs because if you do it is impossible to finish some of the quests..
Uh. Oops. There is not a single Orc left alive in Myrtana. The game made me feel like tht was my goal. It wasn't?
Oh . . in the Myrtana cities I made sure I did all the Orc quests before slaughtering them in a given city. But will my cleaning out of Myrtana bork me in the desert areas?
Remember, procrastinate now. Don't put it off!!
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| 24 JAN 2011 at 10:20pm |
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Status : Offline | As long as you got the artifact from the orcs (the one that you had to pay for), it should not be an issue. If you did not, then you are in trouble.
In order to get the good guy ending, you need to liberate all cities, although you can also turn on the rebels and join the orcs, it is all up to you. There is also a third faction that you can join, though I won't spoil it for you.
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| 25 JAN 2011 at 3:46am |
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Status : Offline | you will see as you progress hopefully it will be ok, but i had to start over back after i cleared out the second city because of that problem....
you can post on the Gothic III forum and they will be able to help with details i am sure....
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