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| 11 SEP 2008 at 4:43am |
CarolineJA+ Overseer


Posts : 16540 Joined: 28 JAN 2007 Location: AU
Status : Offline | Oh gosh. You make me want to play this game again. I didn't get very far in first time.
Most enchanting game for me? Gosh it's a close run thing but I think Riven just nips Obsidian by a whisker. Couldn't tear myself away from the lovely environments. It intrigued me each time I discovered another place. Quite simply, I think it is a 10/10, perfect game.
There are a few others that I could rave on about as being incredibly immersive and addictive but you asked for only one.
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| 11 SEP 2008 at 5:42am |
PoyntenklikSorcerer Apprentice


Posts : 201 Joined: 25 AUG 2005
Status : Online | Hey snow goddess, by all means, name as many games as you want.
I never finished riven, but yea, definitely beautiful. I do think that games like riven and myst have a special charm because they're so solitary and perhaps that's why keepsake is so enchanting. Although there is some dialogue in KS, on the whole, it's a fairly solitary experience, and that, to me, adds to the atmosphere.
I remember Zork Grand Inquisitor as also being incredibly enchanting. I absolutely loved that game.
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| 11 SEP 2008 at 6:07am |
CarolineJA+ Overseer


Posts : 16540 Joined: 28 JAN 2007 Location: AU
Status : Offline | Oh dear... no one who knows me would ever invite me to keep talking...
I find Obsidian to have the enchantment factor for several reasons but I am quite prepared to see how people who dislike a heavily puzzle-centric experience would not have the same joy that I did.
It is atmospheric and there are characters - you play as the female. You have no idea who the enemy is but it turns out to be your own creations - Hal revisited I guess. The environments are not beautiful but they are haunting and empty and pervaded by the ever-watchful presence of the enemy.
The puzzles are exquisitely done, varied and with the exception of one or two, satisfyingly tricky to do but reasonably easy to understand. This game exceeded my pc's specs so I had to suspend playing it for 6 months while I saved up for a new rig. And during that time all I could think of what being able to get back into this strange place called Obsidian. I reckon when a game calls to you - that's the magic.
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| 11 SEP 2008 at 6:44am |
eaglesIntergalactic Janitor


Posts : 62 Joined: 19 MAR 2008
Status : Online | THE LOST CROWN WAS FANTASIC FOR ME.. the whole black and white with color highlights was great ...
the shivers series... the music and the atmosphere.. the museum was great I would love to visit a real life museum like that!
call of cthulu im sorry but i know it has action in it but OMG the attack of the fishman scene scared the hell outta me.. chop chop push push...
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| 11 SEP 2008 at 10:22am |
| Deleted User | I agree with Poyntenklik that Keepsake is a very charming game - I actually cried at the end... :-[
Er.. thanks for the Obsidian spoiler, Caroline..
Although Call of Chtulu is very atmospeheric, I would definitely call it the least enchanting game I have ever played a reasonable amount of (couldn't finish this game because of the depressing atmosphere).
The most enchanting for me would be my first AG ever - King's Quest 6. -probably just because one always sees your first experience through rose-coloured spectacles.
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| 11 SEP 2008 at 12:18pm |
CarolineJA+ Overseer


Posts : 16540 Joined: 28 JAN 2007 Location: AU
Status : Offline | Traveler Don't fret. The object of this game is not to discover who your enemy is but how to rescue your buddy. I haven't given anything away or spoilt it for you.  o you have a copy of Obsidian yet?
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| 11 SEP 2008 at 12:52pm |
colpetSchattenjger


Posts : 1630 Joined: 12 APR 2003
Status : Offline | Riven for me too. The first adventure game I played, going to the islands was like taking a vacation for me. I played for months (pre-internet time) and never got bored. A close runner up was Riddle of the Sphinx. It was another game I played early on in my career. I can still remember the awe I felt when the secret door opened up and I got my first glimpse of the chambers.
Occasionally visiting Uru Live (KI 0063722 .&&
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| 11 SEP 2008 at 1:09pm |
avatar_58Private Detective


Posts : 403 Joined: 27 MAY 2008
Status : Online | In the non-adventure sense (though sort of related, since it's more adventure than rpg) I'd say Ultima VII. Just the very calm nature, the freedom and the living world. You can literally walk into a bar, sit down and just enjoy the sounds. Or bake some bread, make a sword, whatever you want.
For adventure games I'd say Quest for Glory III. Most fans harp on it, but I think it's easily the best in terms of atmosphere, setting and style. The african theme was very unique, right down the music and language. It almost feels like this game didn't belong to the same series, as it's not even close in terms overall feel. In a good way of course.
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| 11 SEP 2008 at 1:26pm |
JKingSchattenjger


Posts : 2349 Joined: 4 MAY 2008 Location: 0
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By TheTraveler (11 SEP 2008 10:22am) The most enchanting for me would be my first AG ever - King's Quest 6. -probably just because one always sees your first experience through rose-coloured spectacles. I think you'll find many adventure gamers who share your opinion of that game. Say what one will about Roberta Williams, it's difficult to argue the game is not a masterpiece in an artistic sense. Personally I found all relevant aspects of the game (backdrops, music, voice, story) thoroughly enchanting, indeed.
Indeed, it's been so long since last I played it I would probably enjoy it again. Sadly I doubt I still have my manual for the cliffs copy protection.
You can't kill someone in a studio.
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| 11 SEP 2008 at 4:32pm |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By Caroline (11 SEP 2008 12:17pm) Traveler Don't fret. The object of this game is not to discover who your enemy is but how to rescue your buddy. I haven't given anything away or spoilt it for you. Do you have a copy of Obsidian yet?
Dearest Caroline - we told you almost a month (or more) ago already, that JKing and I both have our Obsidian's up and running, the engine's purring, and waiting to be revved, once Caroline get's her Obsidian going, so that the 3 of us can embark on our agreed-upon mutual playthrough...... [smiley=whistle.gif]
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| 11 SEP 2008 at 7:34pm |
JelenaPrivate Detective


Posts : 587 Joined: 30 SEP 2007
Status : Offline | I often answer Riven on questions like this, but after having played Black Dahlia I feel it has taken Riven's place when it comes to enchantement. Black Dahlia has the coolest environment, rich story with an unexpected ending and challenging puzzles. A couple are very hard and unfair I have to admit.
And speaking of Obsidian: I'm slowly making progress. Even though I'm not enchanted by it, I'm enjoying the puzzles and the environments, but I don't play more than a couple of times/hours a week so it'll take some time to finish.
Temporary guest in your life.
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| 11 SEP 2008 at 8:08pm |
JKingSchattenjger


Posts : 2349 Joined: 4 MAY 2008 Location: 0
Status : Offline | Oh, more, madam. Surely it's been two months by now? Not that I want to rush you or anything, Caroline.
You can't kill someone in a studio.
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| 11 SEP 2008 at 8:36pm |
| Deleted User | I'm starting to think we'll make better progress following in Jelena's wake - what say you, JKing? [smiley=laughing.gif] I'm really not in a hurry though actually - too many other games, and besides; there's always Colpet and Scratches waiting to be caught up with....
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| 11 SEP 2008 at 11:11pm |
CarolineJA+ Overseer


Posts : 16540 Joined: 28 JAN 2007 Location: AU
Status : Offline | You guys... I swear I'd forgotten. I have my head buried in uni work.
Handed up my story yesterday so won't know if it's acceptable just yet but if you want to read it just say so.
JKing, you'll be pleased to know your contribution of the voice link as an alibi was used - thank you. :-*
Right now I've got baking to do, a picnic supper to prepare for tonight's quiz night at school. We're raising money to buy the Sudanese refugee community a bus. At the same time I've got a sick boy to look after, my own hectic schedule of coughing to get through as well as a million chores and a nice* opinion essay to construct. I have 5 assignments to hand in with only 6 more weeks to go.
After that I'm hoping to have surgery on my spine (ho hum does it ever end) and then I will have time to get my pc fixed up to play Obsidian. I don't mind however if you choose to play it sooner - I'll just read about your exploits and cheer from the sidelines.
I'm also hoping to get a new kitchen fitted before Xmas but that's looking improbable right now. LOL
Oh, and I so want to take a few days off next month when the boys are on school holidays.
*One of the requirements is that it must be pleasant to read. It's crammed with research data and touches on all major feminist issues but it still has to be 'nice to read' : and my teacher hates me. She makes public comments about me being some sort of cashed-up empty-nester filling in time. Totally intimidates me.
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| 11 SEP 2008 at 11:32pm |
HelenGuild Master


Posts : 3436 Joined: 12 OCT 2002 Location: US
Status : Offline | Well, theres definately more than one for me as Im sure for most of you but "Shivers" was the first that comes to mind. I loved the puzzles, creepy atmosphere, and the way the music changed for every room .
"Obsidian" is another and Im thinking "Zork GI" also even though Im on my 2nd. attempt trying to finish it. First time my pc crashed and now Ive got it on another older PC but cat get past the STUPID FLOOD GATES. I just dont get why, Ive gotten further than that before but for some reason I just cant get them to open. > And that pc isnt online so I cant even get me a save from anyone. Well I guess maybe I could on a floppy. :-/ Its been several months since I've attempted to try and open those damned gates and keep thinking to give it another whirl but dont want to end up throwing the monitor down the stairs. Have to make sure Im in a calm mood when I give it another try.
Caroline.....is hubby doing the kitchen?
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| 12 SEP 2008 at 12:42am |
JKingSchattenjger


Posts : 2349 Joined: 4 MAY 2008 Location: 0
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Caroline (11 SEP 2008 11:11pm) JKing, you'll be pleased to know your contribution of the voice link as an alibi was used - thank you. :-* You are of course most welcome, Caroline. Of course it had never occurred to me that one could be impersonated via text, since people who know each other have usual codes, mannerisms, familiar levels of grammatic quality, recognisable vocabulary, etc, etc that a casual impersonator would be unable to replicate without considerable time spent eavesdropping---which is considerably more difficult in this day and age of TLS-crypted communications---but Internet telephony fixes the complexities of such an explanation quite nicely, so I thought it a plausible alternative to suggest.
I am indeed glad to know it helped.
You can't kill someone in a studio.
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| 12 SEP 2008 at 1:19am |
CarolineJA+ Overseer


Posts : 16540 Joined: 28 JAN 2007 Location: AU
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Gamer (11 SEP 2008 11:32pm) Well, theres definately more than one for me as Im sure for most of you but "Shivers" was the first that comes to mind. I loved the puzzles, creepy atmosphere, and the way the music changed for every room .
Now why would anyone be surprised that a woman who decorates her garden with corpses in coffins would enjoy a game called Shivers?
"Obsidian" is another and Im thinking "Zork GI" [....]....... but can't get past the STUPID FLOOD GATES. I just dont get why, [...]
Maybe time for a hint from someone?
Caroline.....is hubby doing the kitchen?
Oh yes, rub it in why don't you? The short answer is No. This time I'd like the job completely finished and it's amazing how obliging a man is when you pay him. The difference in price - DIY vs fully installed is horrendous but I've lived with the present incompleted kitchen for 25 years and I just can't face the delays, arguments and begging that doing it ourselves will entail.
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| 12 SEP 2008 at 6:33pm |
HelenGuild Master


Posts : 3436 Joined: 12 OCT 2002 Location: US
Status : Offline | Now why would anyone be surprised that a woman who decorates her garden with corpses in coffins would enjoy a game called Shivers?
and that time is just around the corner, might head to one of the Halloween stores tonight and possibly pick up a few new ( or should I say Dead) things.
"Obsidian" is another and Im thinking "Zork GI" [....]....... but can't get past the STUPID FLOOD GATES. I just dont get why, [...]
Maybe time for a hint from someone?
Ive gone thru every walkthru I can find, just dont understand why I cant get it to work but have gotten past this part before. :-/
Oh yes, rub it in why don't you? The short answer is No. This time I'd like the job completely finished and it's amazing how obliging a man is when you pay him. The difference in price - DIY vs fully installed is horrendous but I've lived with the present incompleted kitchen for 25 years and I just can't face the delays, arguments and begging that doing it ourselves will entail.
hehehehehe, I know the feeling well though. The magic stove died out on me pretty quick. *SIGH* It was great while it lasted but to good to be true. He now has to paint some of the windows outside before winter sets in. Lets see how long that takes. He's probably thinking before the winter of 2011. : :
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| 12 SEP 2008 at 8:04pm |
loobilooPrivate Detective


Posts : 598 Joined: 3 APR 2008 Location: UK
Status : Offline | After having a good think my choice for most enchanting game is Syberia. It was such a lovely game but I also loved Keepsake Poyntenklik, I really liked the story but found a lot of the puzzles towards the end a little baffling & hated having to use the cheat function as much as I did!
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| 13 SEP 2008 at 1:08am |
Jenny100Guild Master


Posts : 3510 Joined: 12 OCT 2002
Status : Offline | I have trouble coming up with one "the most" enchanting game. The first three Myst games, Secret of Monkey Island, Loom, Syberia, Amerzone, The Longest Journey, and quite a few others had their enchanting moments.
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| 13 SEP 2008 at 2:05am |
PoyntenklikSorcerer Apprentice


Posts : 201 Joined: 25 AUG 2005
Status : Online | Originally Posted By loobiloo (12 SEP 2008 8:04pm) After having a good think my choice for most enchanting game is Syberia. It was such a lovely game but I also loved Keepsake Poyntenklik, I really liked the story but found a lot of the puzzles towards the end a little baffling & hated having to use the cheat function as much as I did!
Yes, Syberia is very enchanting! Keepsake definitely is getting more difficult. I got stuck on this puzzle months ago and need to revisit it. http://img226.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=th_71349_image020_122_440lo.jpg
I know there's a walkthrough and I know there's a hint system, but I'm loathe to use them. I fear if I don't, I'll never progress because I cannot see myself solving this puzzle, and I've had a lot of tries at it. Also one or two other puzzles. :'(
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| 13 SEP 2008 at 2:13am |
AndromusGuild Master


Posts : 5536 Joined: 6 NOV 2002
Status : Offline | I'm having trouble with this as well. Too many choices for me, definitely. Any of the first four Myst games, Monkey Island 1 or 3, Obsidian, The Neverhood, Syberia, Riddle of the Sphinx, and Timelapse all come to mind as contenders.
But I'll have to go with Riven, with its wonderful environments and fantastic creatures, and almost perfect puzzles.
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| 13 SEP 2008 at 4:08am |
CarolineJA+ Overseer


Posts : 16540 Joined: 28 JAN 2007 Location: AU
Status : Offline | I'm so glad you mentioned Timelapse. I wanted to but each time I bring it up SirDave laughs at me. I think being stalked by the robot/ghost security guard thingy really adds to the game. It certainly scared me silly every time it appeard. Then when I have to fire at it do you think I could? My kids laughed and laughed at me being scared by the computer but that's just how enchanting I found that game, thoroughly immersive.
I sent Anne a copy of it you know but she hated it. As a die-hard addict of The Longest Journey I suppose it was asking a bit much for her to suddenly fallen in love with a solitary 1st person puzzle heavy game. As soon as she took its measure she abandoned playing it.
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| 13 SEP 2008 at 7:11am |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By Poyntenklik (13 SEP 2008 2:05am)
Originally Posted By loobiloo (12 SEP 2008 8:04pm) After having a good think my choice for most enchanting game is Syberia. It was such a lovely game but I also loved Keepsake Poyntenklik, I really liked the story but found a lot of the puzzles towards the end a little baffling & hated having to use the cheat function as much as I did!
Yes, Syberia is very enchanting! Keepsake definitely is getting more difficult. I got stuck on this puzzle months ago and need to revisit it. http://img226.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=th_71349_image020_122_440lo.jpg
I know there's a walkthrough and I know there's a hint system, but I'm loathe to use them. I fear if I don't, I'll never progress because I cannot see myself solving this puzzle, and I've had a lot of tries at it. Also one or two other puzzles. :'(
Oh, come on, Poyntenklik, the hint system is progressive, so peeping at the first hint is not going to do that much harm! I'm not a believer in just grabbing hints or walkthroughs, the moment you run into trouble, but I believe that when one really gets stuck for a long time, a tiny hint to help you along a bit, can immensely improve your overall immersion in the game, as being irrevocably stuck is not really conducive to one completing the game, is it now?
He now has to paint some of the windows outside before winter sets in. Lets see how long that takes. He's probably thinking before the winter of 2011. I'm very happy to report that I don't wait for husbands to do things around the house. I detest nagging, and if he has not done something by the second reminder, I simply fix it myself.
I painted (and mixed the relevant colours myself) quite a few rooms of the interior of the house, including the ceilings. 8-) I painted a lot of the outside, as well (but I don't like being in the sun too much.)
I don't know all that much about electrics, but will fix smallish things myself. It's only things that are physically really too heavy for me to handle (that involves shifting, etc.) where I will persist in requests for help, and usually manage to get helped within...say 2-3 days... : Hint: don't nag. Go to the (say a cupboard needs to be shifted) heavy object in question, when he is close by, and start trying yourself. Don't break your back, but instead, start loudly huffing and puffing. I have always had almost instant results, because, sloths that they tend to be, many men are kind-hearted deep down, and their chivalrous instincts tend to pop to the surface when they see that you are struggling.
Husband took it upon himself to have the roof done, and I dare not come close to the swimming pool. That is his domain completely, and he very conscientiously maintains it. (Swimming has been his main sport since he's been a toddler, see? 8-)) (Thank goodness![smiley=laughing.gif])
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