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| 29 AUG 2008 at 3:19am |
kateSorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Online | i know i can't wait for this one, it hasn't been released yet :'( it keeps getting bumped , but i guess it will have less problems , worth the wait, i love his games syberia 1+2 and amerizone so hopefully this one is like that.
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| 30 AUG 2008 at 2:58pm |
karlaAdministrator
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Location: US, Close to the Edge
Status : Online | The press release at http://www.justadventure.com/Press_Releases/LegacyToDistributeDigitalDLs_Aug29_08.shtm has some additional info.
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| 30 AUG 2008 at 4:53pm |
| Deleted User | There is a review on Amazon from someone in Oregon. I don't know if he obtained it from them.
www.amazon.com/review/product/B001CEIMUI/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?%5Fencoding=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
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| 31 AUG 2008 at 4:34am |
SusanGuild Master
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Status : Offline | AdventureGamers has a review that just went up a few days ago.
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| 5 SEP 2008 at 3:13am |
PoyntenklikSorcerer Apprentice
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Joined: 25 AUG 2005
Status : Online | Cool, thanks. Interesting timing. No sooner do I ask about it and AG then put a review up.
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| 5 SEP 2008 at 9:09pm |
KarstenSorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Offline | The US version of Sinking Island isn't quite out yet, but the European and Scandinavian version is out. Adventuregamers is a European based site, I think...
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| 6 SEP 2008 at 12:28am |
| Deleted User | Actually it has been released in the US. Today I noticed they had copies on the shelf at my local Gamestop store (the one in northeast CT) for $29.99. Since it's almost $32 with tax I decided to wait until I hear more about it.
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| 6 SEP 2008 at 4:27am |
HalcyonSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | Don't understand. It's available for download here:
http://adventureshop.gamesplanet.com/US/jeuxNew.html
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| 6 SEP 2008 at 4:38am |
avatar_58Private Detective
Posts : 403
Joined: 27 MAY 2008
Status : Online | Sokal games are bad for my blood pressure, so I think I'll probably avoid it....
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| 6 SEP 2008 at 5:27pm |
Randy-JAJourneyman
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Location: US
Status : Offline | We just got a copy from the distributor this week, does take us a little time to play through the game.
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| 6 SEP 2008 at 7:48pm |
Lucien21Guild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Karsten (5 SEP 2008 9:08pm)
The US version of Sinking Island isn't quite out yet, but the European and Scandinavian version is out. Adventuregamers is a European based site, I think...
The reviewer was American though.
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| 6 SEP 2008 at 10:34pm |
KoriSorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Offline | I want to know if Sinking Island is as good as Syberia 1 And 2. I played Paradise, but never finished it. Paradise did not have the magic of Syberia. I was hoping Sinking Island might.
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| 6 SEP 2008 at 10:45pm |
HalcyonSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | Again, isn't this the US version of Sinking Island for download?
http://adventureshop.gamesplanet.com/US/jeuxNew.html
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| 7 SEP 2008 at 11:04am |
pollodiabloSorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Offline | I don't like to download games, I want a box I can look at (and if possible a manual I can read without having to quit my game).
Sinking Island is only available in a localised version here and I hate that. Stupid childish and emotionless voices, always the same two voice actors (are there really only two voice actors in the Netherlands??? they do all the childrens cartoons I zap through on Sunday mornings and all the games... we have one for the female characters, children and old people and one for the male characters) and crappy translation errors throughout. Not buying this game until I can find an online shop that sells the UK or US version AND has reasonable shipping rates.
Beta-tester of 'The Path', 'Rhiannon', 'Scratches', 'Hope Springs Eternal', 'Time Stand Still', 'Frasse and the Peas of Kejick', '1893: A World's Fair Mystery', 'Carte Blanche' and 'Oakhaven Plantation' a.o.&&
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| 8 SEP 2008 at 1:17am |
HalcyonSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | What is a "localized" version? Why doesn't it say so on the download site? It does say it is an English version--there's a different U.S. version?
I don't know how a consumer can keep up with all that.
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| 8 SEP 2008 at 6:32am |
Randy-JAJourneyman
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Status : Offline | I can't even keep up with all of this stuff anymore!
Look, here's the deal for some of these games cause I'm kinda getting tired of people writing, why doesn't JA have a review of such and such game yet?
Even in this day and age with the internet as widespread as it is, some of these companies are just run by total arseholes.
Let's use Sinking Island (and also Nostradamus) as an example. The game has been available for some time and we could have reviewed it already. So why haven't we? Well, here's our side of the story:
None of the Euorpean publishers would never send us a review copy because most all of JA reviewers are based in the US. And until this week the game had not been released in the US. Nevermind that almost 30% of our site traffic comes from outside North America, these idiots have on some kind of blinders that seems to make them think that only people in the US read a site like JA or Gamespot even.
And if you tried to download a copy from one of those digital stores, if your IP was identified as coming from the US, you eiher could not download a copy or download it but not be able to play it until the US release. This did happen to one of our readers.
Now I have connections all over the world and I could have purchased a copy and had it sent to us, but you know what, I'm tired of playing games with these arseholes. Sometimes I don't even care anymore if we review certain games. After all these years a lot of these pr iditots sill can't fathom that the internet is universal. This is one of the main reason why Rosemary and Gordon shut down Quandary because they got tired of playing these stupid games with adventure developers and publishers.
Or how about the new Art of Murder sequel. Now, the developers are already pissed off at me because of the bad review I wrote for the game. Too many of these developers and publishers take things too personal instead of having a business like attitude or maybe just admitting that their game is not very good. So there are new screenshots out for the sequel, do you see them on JA? Nope. Cause I was told there is not a North American release date yet or even publisher. Now, if I want to, it's not a big problem to just borrow the screenshots from eleswhere and post them on JA. But why should we give free publicity to a company that is too stupid to realize the value of co-operation?
And I'm not saying most companies are like this when it comes to the European/North American release dates, but there are still enough to make it a big problem and you just get sick and tired of trying to reason with a lot of these people who don't seem to have any common sense. Oh, and I'm sure they wonder a few months down the road why I'm giving them attitude (and I'm sure I'm not the only one) aftter they finally decide to bless us with their game assets.
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| 8 SEP 2008 at 7:25am |
pollodiabloSorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By TAS (8 SEP 2008 1:17am)
What is a "localized" version? Why doesn't it say so on the download site? It does say it is an English version--there's a different U.S. version?
I don't know how a consumer can keep up with all that.
A localized version, in this case, refers to all the voices being in Dutch. Which I do not want. And 'here' is 'in shops in the Netherlands'. I specifically stated I did NOT want to download. The download site does offer the English (US or UK I don't know and I don't care) version, but I want to buy the English version IN A BOX. Which is impossible in the Netherlands, because publishers think we're too stupid to understand games if they have English spoken voices. And international webshops don't ship games to Europe or at terrible shipping rates. Or they remove the boxes and ship the discs only. :
Beta-tester of 'The Path', 'Rhiannon', 'Scratches', 'Hope Springs Eternal', 'Time Stand Still', 'Frasse and the Peas of Kejick', '1893: A World's Fair Mystery', 'Carte Blanche' and 'Oakhaven Plantation' a.o.&&
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| 8 SEP 2008 at 4:48pm |
avatar_58Private Detective
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Status : Online | Doesn't surprise me Randy. This genre is in the state it's in mostly due to shitty business practices (*cough* Chainsaw Monday *cough*). Some of them just don't care, despite the fact that frankly between JA, Adventuregamers and a few smaller sites thats all they have in terms of advertising.
No one goes to IGN or Gamespy for adventure game reviews, they go to these websites. So by not giving them the info and the first look - how can anyone know about your games? Especially given the more generic titles like "Sinking Island" or "Overclocked: A History of Violence". Shit like that won't sell without good reviews and word of mouth.
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| 9 SEP 2008 at 11:56pm |
HalcyonSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | Thanks Randy, that helps put things in perspective, for sure. For me, reviews sure do drive what I buy. I'll search high and low to find at least two responsible perspectives on a game before I purchase it. It's always interesting (and usually unsettling) to find out what goes on behind the scenes.
And I can understand how pollodiablo cannot do without his boxed game, but I fearlessly and quickly love downloading a game and playing it that same hour. I love that. I also love finding old games I never played online--there aren't many retailers who carry many older/used PC games anymore.
So....is Sinking Island any good :
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| 10 SEP 2008 at 5:28am |
Randy-JAJourneyman
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Status : Offline | Just to clarify even a bit more - Encore, the North American company that is publishing the Microids titles such as Sinking Island, Dracula 3, etc. - I had a phone conference call with them a few weeks ago so they could give us a preview of their upcoming games. Found out during the conference call, that the adventure sites were basically only an afterthought as they had already previewed the games a few weeks earlier for such adventure stalwarts as Gamespot and IGN. So basically, after all the work that sites like JA and Adventure Gamers, etc. have done for the adventure community for the past 8+ years, their attitude was more or less, screw you guys, we're more intersested in pushing our product on the bigger sites.
So I sort of let them know in my own way what I thought of their marketing tactics - and if you think I'm being presumptous, keep in mind I've been doing this for 10 years and have seen other companies attempt the same strategy only to come begging later for more - and better - P.R. for their game that seemed to have been largely ignored by the hardcore crowds at Gamespot and IGN.
Appearantly they didn't think much of my opinion, I could care less, but on the other hand I wouldn't do anything to hurt the adventure community so we will at our leisure review their games and I will - when the ineveitable happens - not hesitate to say "I told you so."
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| 10 SEP 2008 at 12:41pm |
Michel_BamsIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | Hi All, Hi Randy,
Sorry to hear that.... Unfortunately, as game developers, there is not so much we can do. Believe us when we say that adventure community is very important to us, and that we're always trying to give info, answer interviews, ...
Randy, please contact me directly, and I'll give you a ftp addres where the game can be downloaded for review.
Michel.
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| 10 SEP 2008 at 1:11pm |
avatar_58Private Detective
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Michel_Bams (10 SEP 2008 12:41pm)
Hi All, Hi Randy,
Sorry to hear that.... Unfortunately, as game developers, there is not so much we can do. Believe us when we say that adventure community is very important to us, and that we're always trying to give info, answer interviews, ...
Randy, please contact me directly, and I'll give you a ftp addres where the game can be downloaded for review.
Michel.
The difference between a developer and publisher right here folks.
I don't think the publishers understand their audience Randy. Besides Telltale or Quantic Dreams you don't make headlines creating the latest pixel-hunter. In fact these games usually get pretty terrible reviews, and the reviewer then goes on lamenting how bad the genre is these days and how he used to play "the kings quest" like the rest of us.
As far as I'm concerned if you ignore JA and AdventureGamers you might as well pack it in, because you are aiming for an audience who doesn't want your product. Only in the gaming industry are companies obsessed over folks who don't even want their product. It's like a burger king commercial for a vegetarian. It's not going anywhere.
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| 10 SEP 2008 at 5:23pm |
twentyIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By TAS (9 SEP 2008 11:55pm)
So....is Sinking Island any good :
It's a mixed bag.
Generally, Pros:
- Beautiful graphics
- Personal Police Assistant tool
Generally, Cons:
- A lot of running, can't we just double click?
- The call from the wife and getting hungry is a distraction, don't know what purpose it serves
This is a murder investigation so there is a lot of repeated dialogue in the game.
If there is ever an interview with Benoit Sokal, somebody ought to ask him why he didn't make things less painful for his fans by letting them double click instead of running and running..
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| 11 SEP 2008 at 2:26am |
PoyntenklikSorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Online | Apologies Randy, my opening post actually wasn't intended as "why hasn't JA reviewed this game yet", as if to suggest that JA is slacking, it was badly worded. I only meant that since it isn't reviewed here it probably isn't out yet or there is some other problem. And thanks for your explanation about these companies.
Originally Posted By Randy-JA (10 SEP 2008 5:28am)
Found out during the conference call, that the adventure sites were basically only an afterthought as they had already previewed the games a few weeks earlier for such adventure stalwarts as Gamespot and IGN.
Yep, it's ridiculous. You'd think adventure publishers would realise that there aren't enough plasma guns, rocket blasters, powerups and special combo moves in games like sinking island for the average action obsessed, angst ridden gamespot reader. Gamespot, lol, they're a joke when it comes to our genre. One only has to look at their 2.6 score for barrow hill to realise they should stick to the genre they know.
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