| 2 JUL 2008 at 11:59am |
An_InklingSpace Cadet
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Status : Online | Not really my kind of RPG. But, at least Blizzard are showing Bethesda and their fans that FPP/OTS is not the only option for a modern RPG, ISO or ISO-like is not outdated 8-).
Also, good to see Boyarsky working on a big title, even if it's not Fallout 3.
Who is this great burdensome slavering dog-thing that mediocres my every thought? ([i]Nick Cave - We Call Upon the Author[/i])
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| 2 JUL 2008 at 12:10pm |
Mr Innocent.Journeyman
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Status : Offline | Oblivion may be modern, but it's not an RPG. Neither is Diablo 3, but at least they aren't trying to convince us it is. But let's not start this discussion here...
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| 2 JUL 2008 at 9:25pm |
| Deleted User | It is perhaps unsurprising that the official announcement of Diablo 3's development didn't cause the uproar in JustAdventure that it has caused in mainstream gaming sites, but really, not even a whisper? Head over to the official site for details.
Hmm, pure RPG's or not, Diablo is still enough of an RPG to have deserved a mention in our RPG-chat thread, which has been sorely neglected of late, I'm afraid.
Being the main little thread-keeper myself, I plead guilty to a bit of biased indifference, as I had become a bit bored by Diablo 2, maybe because I was a bit disappointed that the gameplay and "look" was so similar to that of Diablo 1.
We are talking Blizzard here and I realise Blizzard has never really gone for an ultra-realistic look, but I do hope we're going to be pleasantly surprised regarding graphics, story, everything, in that theyr'e going to opt for a fresh and new approach with this third instalment. The concept art so far looks promising, and prettily 'artsy', and yet I feel myself for some reason anticipating Sacred 2 slightly more than Diablo 3. (Even though Sacred was an inferior game to the Diablo's)
It just somehow feels 'fresher'.
Well, it's still early days; and maybe my to-be-played pile is simply too high.
I do suspect I'll be picking this title up as soon as it hits the shelves though, despite my protestations of indifference; -you Nik?
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| 2 JUL 2008 at 10:21pm |
SuperEdyPrivate Detective
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By nik2008ofs (2 JUL 2008 12:10pm)
Oblivion may be modern, but it's not an RPG.
:-? Oblivion has items, spells, quests, a leveling system, dungeons, statistics; unfortunately the combat system is too much action-oriented, but it is an action/RPG (even if I do prefer story-driven RPG like Bloodlines)
[b]Currently Playing[/b]: None of your business
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| 3 JUL 2008 at 11:56am |
Mr Innocent.Journeyman
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Status : Offline | despite my protestations of indifference; -you Nik?
I still remember installing a demo for a game called Diablo, that no one has heard much about despite being developed by the same company as Warcraft II. I think two days passed before my mother finally pulled the plug to make me stop.
I didn't like some things about Diablo 2 (the saving system, the fact that most of the good loot was for other classes in an effort to encourage multiplayer action...), and in no way did it pull me in like Diablo 1. But it was still a good game, and still has the most versatile and most balanced skill tree in an Action-Rpg.
Unlike you, I have a good feeling about Diablo 3, I do not expect or want anything "innovative", just what Blizzard is good at, an incredibly polished, addictive game with sky-high production values that is geared toward gamers, not benchmark enthusiasts. I am also much more willing to try multiplayer modes than I was back then, so it is a good investment. I intend to pick up a copy as soon as it hits the shelves (in fact, I'll pre-order as soon as possible), perhaps we'll try some multiplayer together? Can't wait.
unfortunately the combat system is too much action-oriented, but it is an action/RPG (even if I do prefer story-driven RPG like Bloodlines)
And why exactly should I be happy that Morrowind's sequel is a dumped-down action/Rpg?
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| 3 JUL 2008 at 5:32pm |
SuperEdyPrivate Detective
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Status : Online | Nobody said you should be happy, you're perfectly free to hate the game
It's true, Bethesda simplified the series to please the console gamers, but I think it's more playable (you can fast travel and the mana slowly raises), not dumbed down.
Why do you like Diablo and not Oblivion?
I tried Diablo 2 on a LAN and I don't think the multiplayer mode added a lot to the game.
[b]Currently Playing[/b]: None of your business
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| 3 JUL 2008 at 7:51pm |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By nik2008ofs (3 JUL 2008 11:56am)
despite my protestations of indifference; -you Nik?
Unlike you, I have a good feeling about Diablo 3, I do not expect or want anything "innovative", just what Blizzard is good at, an incredibly polished, addictive game with sky-high production values that is geared toward gamers, not benchmark enthusiasts.
True. I am actually feeling a lot more excited about it, after studying their website in more detail.
perhaps we'll try some multiplayer together? That would have been such fun, Nik, if I wasn't too scared I'd embarrass myself! It's always easier to play with total strangers or family than with aquaintances that you sort of know a little but not well enough not to feel embarassed if you do something dumb. :-[
unfortunately the combat system is too much action-oriented, but it is an action/RPG (even if I do prefer story-driven RPG like Bloodlines)
And why exactly should I be happy that Morrowind's sequel is a dumped-down action/Rpg?
Oblivion would have been a nice enough game, if it didn't have Morrowind to live up to. :-/
It's like being fed Smarties when youv'e grown used to Caviar...
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| 3 JUL 2008 at 9:46pm |
AndromusGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By TheTraveler (3 JUL 2008 7:51pm)
Oblivion would have been a nice enough game, if it didn't have Morrowind to live up to. :-/
It's like being fed Smarties when youv'e grown used to Caviar...
I haven't played those games yet, so I can't agree or disagree. (Though with the holiday weekend coming up, I'm looking to finally start Morrowind.) But I know the feeling, though it didn't involve games in the same series. lt's very much how I felt going from Baldur's Gate 2 to Neverwinter Nights.
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| 7 JUL 2008 at 2:03pm |
Mr Innocent.Journeyman
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Status : Offline | lt's very much how I felt going from Baldur's Gate 2 to Neverwinter Nights.
True, NWN original campaign wasn't much compared to BG2. But HOTU was a great adventure, and there are tons of truly great mods... so I don't regret buying it for a second.
That would have been such fun, Nik, if I wasn't too scared I'd embarrass myself! It's always easier to play with total strangers or family than with aquaintances that you sort of know a little but not well enough not to feel embarassed if you do something dumb.
Oh, come on now, you know me: master of relaxation 8-) . Games are supposed to be fun, it isn't a matter of life and death if someone makes a mistake, and those that react as if it is need to get a life (something that I myself need to keep in mind when playing DOTA ). Besides, I'm sure you'll do fine. Anyway, time enough to seduce you once the game hits the shelves [smiley=devil_smiley_grintail.gif] ...
Btw, we expect a heat wave well exceeding 40 degrees Celsius here in Greece over the next few days, so I'll be well prepared for the fires of hell...
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| 7 JUL 2008 at 10:58pm |
AndromusGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By nik2008ofs (7 JUL 2008 2:03pm)
True, NWN original campaign wasn't much compared to BG2. But HOTU was a great adventure, and there are tons of truly great mods... so I don't regret buying it for a second.
Oh, I don't regret buying it or playing it either, even if I found to be a lesser game than Bioware's earlier works. I got about six months of gameplay for my $20. (I played mostly on weekends, which is why it took me so long.)
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| 16 OCT 2008 at 4:08pm |
| Deleted User | I want to play this character 8-) Wizard
These rune skills look like so much more fun than purely hacking and slashing.. http://www.actiontrip.com/rei/video.phtml?id=5065.
Now, when is this game going to be finished, I wonder? There's been some talk of Q2, 2009....
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| 16 OCT 2008 at 5:26pm |
Terry PenrodGrand Inquisitor
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Originally Posted By TheTraveler (16 OCT 2008 4:07pm)
I want to play this character 8-) Wizard
These rune skills look like so much more fun than purely hacking and slashing.. http://www.actiontrip.com/rei/video.phtml?id=5065.
Now, when is this game going to be finished, I wonder? There's been some talk of Q2, 2009....
Now that's what I'M talkin' about Traveler!
I love the globe of invulnerability that sends ranged attacks right back at your enemies and that very cool ability to target overhead objects in the game world with a lightning bolt or fire ball to create falling debris for crushing evil hordes.
It's also nice to see that Blizzard is maintaining their world-class standards for visuals, music, sound effects and voice acting. Nobody does it better IMO.
Cheers, Terry
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| 28 OCT 2008 at 6:21pm |
DarleenIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | I can't wait for Diablo 3...
Long over due...Blizzard should of never strayed away from the Diablo games.. [smiley=devil_smiley_grintail.gif]
///*_*\\\
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| 28 OCT 2008 at 7:07pm |
| Deleted User | /me shields Darleen from all the ripe tomatoes being thrown her way from the WOW addicts... and the Warcraft fans..... and the Starcraft fans...
Sheesh, Darleen, you're a brave 'un, you are! [smiley=scared.gif]
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| 28 OCT 2008 at 7:12pm |
JKingSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | Pah! Real Blizzard fans believe they should drop everything and finally make a Blackthorne sequel!
/me cowers in anticipation of rotten tomatoes and worse.
You can't kill someone in a studio.
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| 28 OCT 2008 at 7:30pm |
| Deleted User | ..never even heard of it, JKing - but then, I seem to have entered the gaming scene more recently than you have...
...anyway, I just wanted to mention that the group that did Diablo was in any case not originally the same team that did Warcraft and Starcraft. It was Blizzard North, originally Condor games, who had been purchased by Blizzard while they were already working on Diablo.
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| 28 OCT 2008 at 7:42pm |
JKingSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | I was not aware of this! I guess you learn new things every day, not so?
You can't kill someone in a studio.
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| 20 NOV 2008 at 11:05pm |
XerNosamSorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Offline | Blackthorne! Totally. I played that baby on my SNES back in the day. I remember it being a difficult game (I think) but it was fun. A follow up would be great, though probably not as popular as another Diablo.
Anyone looking for a low price, Diablo filler will find great fun with Titan Quest and its expansion, Immortal Throne. A Diablo clone-esque romp with pretty graphics and effects, deep spell trees and great hack and slash fun. More "deep" than Diablo 2, I'd say.
I sadly have never played the BGates, IDales, nor the NWinter Nights series of games. I always plan to, but then these stupid devs keep coming up with cool stuff to play instead.
Any chance a a dev hiatus for, say, a year, to allow me to catch up a bit? Maybe?
Playing: Skyrim: Dragonborn/Dawnguard; Torchlight 2; To The Moon; Far Cry 3
Finished: HomeFront; Far Cry 3; Dishonored
Always Playing: Half Life 2
Looking Forward To: BioShock: Infinite
Reading: BioShock: Rapture; SW: Revan
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