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| 17 JUN 2008 at 3:55am |
jujigatameSchattenjger
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Status : Online | By the way, I haven't posted here in almost 2 years. How's everyone been?
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| 17 JUN 2008 at 4:13am |
AndromusGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By jujigatame (17 JUN 2008 3:55am)
By the way, I haven't posted here in almost 2 years. How's everyone been?
Hey, welcome back! Nice to see a regular from the old days stop by.
Regarding why they didn't release QFG with the other collections, I've always wondered that as well. And perversely enough, it's the series out of the bunch I was most interested in trying. Perhaps some copyright issues were involved, or perhaps Sierra figured the other series were more well known.
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| 17 JUN 2008 at 10:11am |
pavel4444Space Cadet
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Status : Online | just watch some or all videos on youtube and nostalgia will go away.
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| 17 JUN 2008 at 8:44pm |
GonchiSorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Online | Why Vivendi didn't re-release QfG I have no idea, but I figure it's how Andromus suggested, they probably just thought it wasn't as popular or well known as the others.
I'm rather thankful for it, the new re-releases were poor quality at best, and have for the most part butchered the value of the older collections, though I know it sucks wanting something and your only choice to get it is overpaying for a used, sometimes incomplete, copy to a reseller...
You can find the compilations cheaper than $150 from time to time on eBay. You might want to consider hunting down the separate releases rather than the Anthology or Collection, you can sometimes get them much cheaper.
But I'm not so complicated as to flee, &&or stand here in silence. &&But I'm not so simple as to not caution, &&that there aren't three minutes, or a hundred words, that could define me.&&&&[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlR-6Tw-5bE]Brief description of my person[/url] - Cuarteto de Nos
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| 17 JUN 2008 at 11:44pm |
jujigatameSchattenjger
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Status : Online | My best theory on why they didn't re-release QFG is basically that they couldn't get one or more of them working on whatever version of DOSBox was available at the time, so they just didn't bother with it. It's either that or they thought there just wasn't a market for it, and that people weren't as nostalgic for QFG as they are for King's Quest or the other series. Of course that sucks for people like me who thought KQ was overrated and that QFG was the superior series all along.
What really sucks is that I used to own all these games.
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| 17 JUN 2008 at 11:46pm |
jujigatameSchattenjger
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Status : Online | the new re-releases were poor quality at best, and have for the most part butchered the value of the older collections
Can you expand on this? I was planning on buying the PQ and SQ collections off Amazon within the next week or two.
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| 18 JUN 2008 at 12:58pm |
Mr Innocent.Journeyman
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Status : Offline | I have the new SQ collection, from what I could see it includes only the VGA re-release of SQ1, which I think is rather silly and decreases the value of the collection. Couldn't they squeeze 2 more megabytes on the disk >?
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| 18 JUN 2008 at 1:03pm |
JKingSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By nik2008ofs (18 JUN 2008 12:58pm)
I have the new SQ collection, from what I could see it includes only the VGA re-release of SQ1, which I think is rather silly and decreases the value of the collection. Couldn't they squeeze 2 more megabytes on the disk >?
How bizarre! And unfortunate, as the original collection release (which I have) does. Holy lack of value, Batman...
You can't kill someone in a studio.
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| 19 JUN 2008 at 3:34am |
jujigatameSchattenjger
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Status : Online | Well I've looked into it some more, and Abandonia has Quest for Glory 1-3 available for download. They don't offer QFG4 because apparently it's still under ESA protection. Andro, I suggest you give them a look, I think they're playable with DOSBox and there are fan-made patches for some of the scripting issues with newer machines. Also, AGD Interactive's VGA remake of QFG2 is in the beta testing phase and will be out soon. If you've played their remakes of King's Quest 1 and 2, you know how professional they are and the quality of their stuff. I can't wait to play it because the original EGA version of QFG2 is a bit of a pain to play these days, and the remake will supposedly be streamlined and improved in a couple of ways.
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| 19 JUN 2008 at 4:16am |
jgsax526Intergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | I remember the game well. In fact I played it first on an Apple IIGS when it was named Hero's Quest, So You Want To Be A Hero. Then it was later named Quest for Glory.
If I'd known I was going to live this long I'd have taken better care of my body.
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| 19 JUN 2008 at 5:28am |
GonchiSorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By jujigatame (17 JUN 2008 11:46pm)
the new re-releases were poor quality at best, and have for the most part butchered the value of the older collections
Can you expand on this? I was planning on buying the PQ and SQ collections off Amazon within the next week or two.
About the quality, I didn't buy the new collections, I own the older ones so I didn't have the necessity, but I read most comments about them pretty avidly when they came out and there were a lot of complaints.
I'm afraid I've forgotten the exact details of most of the reasons by now, but they were generally about the missing games, like nik mentioned, none of the collections come with the original EGA versions, additionally, LSL didn't come with the talkie release of LSL6 or LSL7, King's Quest didn't come with MoE (though that might be considered a plus) and had the non-talkie KQ6 DOS version, etc. I believe bundling all the games of each collection into true collections would have been a much bigger selling point than the XP compatibility (which turned out to just be DOSBox), but they went with a budget re-release of the previous collections instead.
There were also some complaints about the documentation. Everything's bundled into the discs as pdf's, which makes it annoying when you come across the copy-protection in game and require the manual. I think I remember someone mentioning having problems with the copy protection of an LSL game because the manual included and the game were of different versions so the info didn't match up.
Additionally, all the collections came with an installer that had preset install options that were not optimum, particularly with the sound settings. A fan made a patch to fix this, though I can't find the link to it.
I think the Police Quest and Space Quest collections were the better done of the four, so if you don't own the earlier collections they're still a good purchase.
But I'm not so complicated as to flee, &&or stand here in silence. &&But I'm not so simple as to not caution, &&that there aren't three minutes, or a hundred words, that could define me.&&&&[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlR-6Tw-5bE]Brief description of my person[/url] - Cuarteto de Nos
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| 20 JUN 2008 at 1:21am |
jujigatameSchattenjger
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Status : Online | Good to hear the SQ and PQ collections are the better ones. Those plus QFG were my favorites back in the day. I don't mind the lack of the EGA PQ1 or SQ1, since the old text parser games tend to irritate the hell out of me.
I used to own all the SQ and PQ games, but sadly those disks are long gone.
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| 20 JUN 2008 at 1:48am |
JKingSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Gonchi (19 JUN 2008 5:28am)
LSL didn't come with the talkie release of LSL6 or LSL7, King's Quest didn't come with MoE (though that might be considered a plus) and had the non-talkie KQ6 DOS version, etc.
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| 26 JUN 2008 at 2:22am |
jujigatameSchattenjger
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Status : Online | By the way, if anybody has a copy of QFG 4 or 5, please PM me. I have many old games I'd be willing to part with to get my hands on them.
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| 26 JUN 2008 at 5:26am |
An_InklingSpace Cadet
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By jujigatame (19 JUN 2008 3:34am)
Well I've looked into it some more, and Abandonia has Quest for Glory 1-3 available for download. They don't offer QFG4 because apparently it's still under ESA protection. Andro, I suggest you give them a look, I think they're playable with DOSBox and there are fan-made patches for some of the scripting issues with newer machines. Also, AGD Interactive's VGA remake of QFG2 is in the beta testing phase and will be out soon. If you've played their remakes of King's Quest 1 and 2, you know how professional they are and the quality of their stuff. I can't wait to play it because the original EGA version of QFG2 is a bit of a pain to play these days, and the remake will supposedly be streamlined and improved in a couple of ways.
Possibly some good news, from the Abandonia front page:
You've seen a number of damn fine games on the site. And a lot of them weren't for download.
It seemed hell would freeze over sooner than you could get them.
Well, the unthinkable happened: Vivendi, Activision and LucasArts have just left ESA.
We're currently sorting through all the affected titles and re-evaluating their status one by one - in the following weeks you can expect several popular titles to become downloadable again.
Who is this great burdensome slavering dog-thing that mediocres my every thought? ([i]Nick Cave - We Call Upon the Author[/i])
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| 27 JUN 2008 at 10:50pm |
jujigatameSchattenjger
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Status : Online | I think that's why QFG 1, 2, and 3 are available from them now. I think QFG4 is still protected for some reason, and I'd probably want the CD version anyway, which I doubt they'd host. Of course QFG5 is a whole other issue as well.
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