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| 11 JUN 2008 at 11:01pm |
IviniaGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Interesting...this keeps getting deeper. Someone has now spotted Painkiller assets in there.
Look at the Limbo trailer here at around 2:36 http://www.gametrailers.com/player/34863.html
and look at the Painkiller level here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJniAgD5wT0
EDIT:
There are now even more claims that assets have been ripped from Thief: Deadly Shadows and a shield "exactly the same as the "Wall of the Eyeless" shield in Diablo 2"
Looks like this entire game's locations and some other graphical assets have been ripped straight from other games.
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| 11 JUN 2008 at 11:28pm |
JKingSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | I'm amazed the person or persons who did this believed people wouldn't notice.
You can't kill someone in a studio.
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| 12 JUN 2008 at 12:54am |
Lady KestrelGuild Master
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Status : Offline | A very thick plot indeed, Ivinia. This explains the statement taken from Aya's review here at JA:
All of the chapters though feel as though they have been created by different people.
It looks like they were.
"Where is the fountain that throws up these flowers in a ceaseless outbreak of ecstasy?"
-Rabindranath Tagore
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| 12 JUN 2008 at 1:37am |
IviniaGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Someone is claiming the hand pointer/icon in the game is from Black & White 2. It's all turned into a game in itself as people are identifying parts of the game from MANY different sources - mostly other games. The big game now is finding out where the main character came from or if they created him themselves.
I really can't image adults trying to pull something like this. Right now I have a mental picture in my head of a bunch of kids sitting around saying, "Hey, let's make a game." There's tons of stuff out there we can rip. No one will notice. Tri-Synergy and G2 has to have a lot of egg on their faces for actually signing these guys up. I wonder if they paid them advanced royalties? According to GameSpot the publisher has not been able to contact them as they are supposedly on vacation.... I bet they are!
EDIT: Just did some searching on my own and found that the dialog on this trailer with the demon speaking:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/34863.html
Is from the video game RUNE: "The dead do not welcome the presence of the living, warrior. You remind them of all they have lost."
http://www.inkslinger.org/writing/samples/writing/writingsamplerunescript.html
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| 12 JUN 2008 at 2:17am |
JKingSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Ivinia (12 JUN 2008 1:36am)
EDIT: Just did some searching on my own and found that the dialog on this trailer with the demon speaking:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/34863.html
Is from the video game RUNE: "The dead do not welcome the presence of the living, warrior. You remind them of all they have lost."
http://www.inkslinger.org/writing/samples/writing/writingsamplerunescript.html
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You can't kill someone in a studio.
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| 12 JUN 2008 at 3:40am |
InlandAZGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Ivinia (11 JUN 2008 9:40pm)
Got an email alert today from one of many sites sending me game news and just about fell out of my seat.
In case you don't remember, it involved some strange working of the Limbo of the Lost developers sending out mixed signals and appearing fishy. Well, looks like they were indeed fishy:
http://www.gameplasma.com/limbo_of_the_lost_or_oblivion/
Here's our original thread: http://justadventure.com/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1196172821/0
Isn't this the same set of folks that was heaving a ton of **&^ at Inferno?
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| 12 JUN 2008 at 3:47am |
IviniaGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Yes, that would be the same people. :-/
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| 12 JUN 2008 at 4:23am |
antlerIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By JKing (11 JUN 2008 11:28pm)
I'm amazed the person or persons who did this believed people wouldn't notice.
They likely were not concerned. By the time the rip off was discovered they got their money from G2 and TriSynergy and are long gone. Very likely set up shop elsewhere under a new name and are busily working on a sequel of a different name.
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| 12 JUN 2008 at 6:31am |
STooGE4444, EastCoastDoom...Schattenjger
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Status : Online | I came here and saw no thread for this and was going to start but saw this just in time....
This is just crazy. Yea, it really does sound like something kids would do or someone learning how to make a game.
Here are some more screenshots:
Thief 3: http://www.ag.ru/screenshots/thief_deadly_shadows/92784
Diablo II (Wall of the Eyeless) http://battle.net/diablo2exp/items/normal/ushields.shtml
Limbo of the Lost: http://www.ag.ru/screenshots/limbo_of_the_lost/231765
Thanks to a poster on BluesNews for the previous links.
Someone also mentioned that maybe they could've used something like this: http://www.deep-shadows.com/hax/3DRipperDX.htm
I think this is just crazy. So what was the deal with Fable and Inferno?
~rbeeler SVT &&Name's STooGE$$$$ Valpurgius TNT; it's not PLURAL&&[img]http://www.riseaboverecords.com/sleep/image/sleepfront.gif[/img]&&151.Generally speaking Sludge Doomsters are Angry, Gothic doomsters are sad, funeral doomsters are barely breathing, death doomsters are dirty, drunk and dribbling, Stoner Doomsters don't care, drone doomsters are out of it and traditional Doomsters are permanently pissed off, mainly with other doomsters
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| 12 JUN 2008 at 6:51am |
MarianIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | Here is a picture of the "kids" that I tracked down:
http://www.kentmessenger.co.uk/paper/default.asp?article_id=9644&slide_id=1&newspage=2&searchkeyword=&searchpage=1
Kinda makes you wonder if they ever left the pub, doesn't it?
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| 12 JUN 2008 at 6:54am |
STooGE4444, EastCoastDoom...Schattenjger
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Status : Online | Brilliant!!!!!
~rbeeler SVT &&Name's STooGE$$$$ Valpurgius TNT; it's not PLURAL&&[img]http://www.riseaboverecords.com/sleep/image/sleepfront.gif[/img]&&151.Generally speaking Sludge Doomsters are Angry, Gothic doomsters are sad, funeral doomsters are barely breathing, death doomsters are dirty, drunk and dribbling, Stoner Doomsters don't care, drone doomsters are out of it and traditional Doomsters are permanently pissed off, mainly with other doomsters
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| 12 JUN 2008 at 7:07am |
IviniaGuild Master
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Unless this is some major PR stunt, I don't see how the heck they can get out of this. The only thing I can possibly think of is that maybe they had someone else supply those screens and the vocals, and the special effects in the trailers, and the...well, you get the idea. At this point it is a long shot, but you never know. They are quoted all over the place saying they did it all themselves. I can't see how they could possibly talk their way out of this one. Can it get any more bizarre?
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| 12 JUN 2008 at 7:13am |
STooGE4444, EastCoastDoom...Schattenjger
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Status : Online | Interviews with Steve Bovis
JustAdventure
Quandaryland
Following quote from JA interview:
Tim Croucher UK) - Researcher and assistant vocalist, game designer/playtester.
I met Tim right at the beginning of the project, we were both adventure game fans and decided to make an adventure game of our own – Limbo of the Lost was born.
Laurence Francis (UK) – Puzzles, Lead vocalist and assistant game designer/Musician.
Laurence joined the team when we were starting the Amiga version and has been a strong member ever since. Laurence is the voice of the main character – Benjamin Spooner Briggs as well as other characters in LIMBO.
Marko "Gravehill" Hautamäki (Germany) – Level-Atmosphere Musician.
I got to know Marko from a forum I was on and he was looking to work on a game project. I heard some of his work and was suitably impressed. To date he has done more than 13 musical pieces for the game. Marko is the newest team member.
Lisa Highsted (UK) – Contracts and Support
Lisa sorts out contract negotiations / publishers, she joined the team on the PC version of the game. She also play-tests and reviews content on a regular basis.
Heather Banks (UK) – Playtester & Support
Heather helps out on playtesting the game, general development feedback and development support. She too joined the team on the PC version
Myself - Steve Bovis UK) - Creative/Project Director
That then leaves me, my job is to put the game together and create all the visuals, coding, sounds, models, marketing and basically make the game flow and work. As well as manage and try to motivate the team. A job that is hard enough at the best of times!
~rbeeler SVT &&Name's STooGE$$$$ Valpurgius TNT; it's not PLURAL&&[img]http://www.riseaboverecords.com/sleep/image/sleepfront.gif[/img]&&151.Generally speaking Sludge Doomsters are Angry, Gothic doomsters are sad, funeral doomsters are barely breathing, death doomsters are dirty, drunk and dribbling, Stoner Doomsters don't care, drone doomsters are out of it and traditional Doomsters are permanently pissed off, mainly with other doomsters
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| 12 JUN 2008 at 7:17am |
IviniaGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Hmmm, looks like it's all in Steve's lap since he is saying he did all of the visuals. Funny how he seems to be at the center of the previous controversy on here and GameBoomers as well. [smiley=detective.gif]
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| 12 JUN 2008 at 7:34am |
STooGE4444, EastCoastDoom...Schattenjger
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Status : Online | I all for making something for fun...just for the passion. That's what learning is all about. But to try to sell the game for 30 buckazoids when a portion of it is not your creation, is not right. Just because you want to be a millionaire doesn't imply that you deserve to be regardless of how hard you've worked.
Heck, many people would not have known that some of this stuff is from other games. I probably wouldn't have known; except maybe the Thief3 library scene (I remember I was really really really bored and I kept running around in circles for like 5 minutes. Don't ask why!)
If I am going to support someone, its going to be for a job well done.
One thing is for sure, we these types of events are Pure Proof that viral marketing is Pure Gold.
It also puts another spin on the pretty good review (Grade B) Aya had of the game. Aya, if you're listening what do you think now, regardless of the outcome of this scenario?
I also found another interesting thread on Neogaf. They show some caps from Unreal and more from diablo.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=310683&page=4
Anyway, I've gotta go to bed...be safe....
~rbeeler SVT &&Name's STooGE$$$$ Valpurgius TNT; it's not PLURAL&&[img]http://www.riseaboverecords.com/sleep/image/sleepfront.gif[/img]&&151.Generally speaking Sludge Doomsters are Angry, Gothic doomsters are sad, funeral doomsters are barely breathing, death doomsters are dirty, drunk and dribbling, Stoner Doomsters don't care, drone doomsters are out of it and traditional Doomsters are permanently pissed off, mainly with other doomsters
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| 12 JUN 2008 at 11:28am |
AyaGrand Inquisitor
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Status : Offline | this is amazing..........! i am completely dumbfounded..........
i have written a small text to add to my review of the game... i hope randy reads and approves it asap so it can go up right away
You have gotten the attention of the mysterious lady. She turns to face you. Her face is devoid of any flesh. You are frozen with horror as she begins ripping your body into a bloody mess.
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| 12 JUN 2008 at 1:41pm |
AyaGrand Inquisitor
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Status : Offline | one thing that worries me about all this, is that it may make publishers more reluctant than they already are to support indie developers... i hope i am totally wrong here, but if this happens it could be one of the worst blows in the genre's history
You have gotten the attention of the mysterious lady. She turns to face you. Her face is devoid of any flesh. You are frozen with horror as she begins ripping your body into a bloody mess.
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| 12 JUN 2008 at 1:48pm |
alkis21Schattenjger
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Status : Offline | This gives me the opportunity to give you the first screenshot of the new adventure game of Atropos Studios, Articia:
[img]http://www.oldgamesitalia.com/Beren/shots/syberia7.jpg[/img]
In this screenshot, you see the main character Katherine Runner and her friend who is called Academy Award. They're on their way to a distant land to find some dinosaurs.
It's based on such a simple idea I'm surprised nobody ever thought of it before.
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| 12 JUN 2008 at 2:41pm |
MarianIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | Alkis!
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| 12 JUN 2008 at 3:34pm |
KarstenSorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Marian (12 JUN 2008 2:41pm)
Alkis!
You never rest for a Moment now do you, Alkis
Good to see that you're still going strong.
While we're on the business of talking about ripoffs and such isn't the name 'academy award' copyrighted by the -ehm- Oscar committe in the US? Just asking...to maybe keep Alkis out of trouble...
I have to admit that at first I was very skeptical about this story, but now I just am very > and sad :'(
It really is true that these 3 guys have ripped off ON other people's hard work. Although Bethesda etc. also used middleware
to make Oblivion, at least they licensed the middleware they used i.e. they paid for the use of it. These guys did not - and that alone make me want to an: them
There's a picture of them in http://www.kentmessenger.co.uk/paper/default.asp?article_id=9644&slide_id=1&newspage=2&searchkeyword=&searchpage=1
howing them in bar or a pub; maybe they just used all the publisher's money on good beer. I mean the publisher did give Majestic Studios money? to make the game? And to license engines and stuff??
I hope this does not affect a publisher's incentive to fund an indie developer's game development...
The sad thing is that if they just had made a mod for Oblivion or for one of the other other games they've ripped off, everyone would probably be hailing them right now for what a great mod they'd made...
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| 12 JUN 2008 at 4:09pm |
avatar_58Private Detective
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Status : Online | This is just hilariously bad. It's so blatent, how could they think no one would notice?
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| 12 JUN 2008 at 4:37pm |
SirDaveGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Alkis, I think it would be more original if you had them searching for woolly mammoths! (No, I won't be asking for royalties for the idea.)
The future ain't what it used to be!
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| 12 JUN 2008 at 5:24pm |
IviniaGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Aya (12 JUN 2008 11:28am)
this is amazing..........! i am completely dumbfounded..........
i have written a small text to add to my review of the game... i hope randy reads and approves it asap so it can go up right away
LOL, well, if it's any consolation, you were right in the review when you said:
All of the chapters though feel as though they have been created by different people. This results to some chapters being absolutely excellent, especially 3 and 5, while others are of an inferior level, especially chapter 2.
Too bad you don't play RPGs or you might have been able to blow the lid on this whole fiasco months ago.
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| 12 JUN 2008 at 5:30pm |
Terry PenrodGrand Inquisitor
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Wow Alkis, nice Alps on that female character model. Your rendering skillz are really starting to blossom.
Any chance we'll be able to use a cloth disintegrating mod? You know, just for us "mature" adult gamers.
Cheers, Terry
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