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| 27 MAY 2008 at 9:32pm |
JKingSchattenjger
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Joined: 4 MAY 2008
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Status : Offline | /me frowns.
Well, that's rude.
You can't kill someone in a studio.
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| 28 MAY 2008 at 7:50am |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By JKing (27 MAY 2008 9:32pm)
/me frowns.
Well, that's rude.
That's why I've placed this topic in the hotspot.
But when I read the reviews then all those games are 'A+' games.
Build-a-lot is a much-needed breath of fresh air in the casual game market. Its graphics, animation, music and sound-effects are all first-rate, and its challenges -- even the more difficult ones -- are fair
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Ravenhurst boasts effectively creepy music, eerie background sounds, gorgeous graphics and a little humor thrown in for good measure. It's absolutely brilliant from start to finish.
So what are you waiting for, people? Get this game, and right now! I'm not gonna tell you again!!
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That having been said, however, I do recommend Hometown Hero. Its innovations greatly outweigh its frustrations and definitely make it a worthwhile purchase. If you approach the game with realistic expectations, I'm sure you'll enjoy it.
For a lousy 'Burger game'
I seriously wonder that if Ray, Randy or Aya reviewed these games, the outcome would have been the same high praising.
I doubt that!
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| 28 MAY 2008 at 9:00am |
IviniaGuild Master
Posts : 4459
Joined: 7 JUN 2003
Location: US
Status : Offline | Uh, dude? There are no scores on them so I don't know where you get that A+ from. I don't think Karla is assigned reviews, she plays games and when she finds some she really likes, she goes ahead and reviews them in order to point out games worth trying. Casual games don't come up on the list of games Randy needs reviewed. Considering portals like Big Fish release a new game EVERY DAY, I think Karla provides a service to gamers by pointing out those that she enjoys.
Considering she runs the Jave all by herself and does customized backgrounds for each one to make them look nice for visitors for no other reason than that she enjoys it, there is no reason for you ripping on her in Hot Topic other than the sole purpose of trying to get a rise out of people.
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| 28 MAY 2008 at 10:31am |
| Deleted User | What do you mean by 'a rise out of people' Invinia?
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| 28 MAY 2008 at 1:03pm |
Mr Innocent.Journeyman
Posts : 1317
Joined: 15 JAN 2008
Location: GR
Status : Offline | Ravenhurst is a great game, standing out in a genre (find-the-hidden-object) that boasts millions of devoted fans among casual gamers. Have you actually tried any of these games or do you simply assume that they don't deserve praise because they didn't cost 3 million dollars to make?
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| 28 MAY 2008 at 1:33pm |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By nik2008ofs (28 MAY 2008 1:02pm)
Ravenhurst is a great game, standing out in a genre (find-the-hidden-object) that boasts millions of devoted fans among casual gamers. Have you actually tried any of these games or do you simply assume that they don't deserve praise because they didn't cost 3 million dollars to make?
[img]http://www.justadventure.com/reviews/Buildalot/Buildalot_SS03.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.justadventure.com/reviews/Buildalot/Buildalot_SS01.jpg[/img]
Its graphics, animation, music and sound-effects are all first-rate
Who are we fooling? We're talking about a $ 20,- game!!! No freeware. Come on nik2008ofs!
That's a price for a company who should've spend 3 million in developing.
But they didn't obviously.
Same goes for Ravenhurst.
[img]http://games.justadventure.com/images/games/MCF_raven/MCF_raven3.jpg[/img]
There are many of those find-the-hidden-object games. Nice to try (have tried this one also), but absolutly not worth the $ 20,- if you compare that with great games. Sam and Max episodes for instance.
It's just a rip-off, IMHO.
And absolutly no:
[size=18]"So what are you waiting for, people? Get this game, and right now! I'm not gonna tell you again!!"
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| 28 MAY 2008 at 3:50pm |
Mr Innocent.Journeyman
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Joined: 15 JAN 2008
Location: GR
Status : Offline | The intended audience of most of these games wouldn't touch a hardcore adventure or RPG game (including the Sam and Max episodes) with a ten-foot pole. JustAdventure+ has decided many years ago that they aren't a site addressed to purists, and added the + in the title to reflect that. Pricing very rarely figures in the verdict of any review in any medium, unless it is truly exorbitant. Besides, if the Mystery Case games didn't consistently sell there wouldn't be a sequel every 3 months, so obviously the people who enjoy them don't find them overpriced. If you do, simply don't buy them, where's the problem?
These reviews simply aren't meant for hardcore gamers, nor is there any reason why they should since the games aren't meant for hardcore gamers.
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| 28 MAY 2008 at 6:12pm |
IviniaGuild Master
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Joined: 7 JUN 2003
Location: US
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Sir Funkenstein jr. (28 MAY 2008 1:32pm)
Nice to try (have tried this one also), but absolutly not worth the $ 20,- if you compare that with great games. Sam and Max episodes for instance.
It's just a rip-off, IMHO.
Most the sales of those games are in the $6.99-$9.99 range, not $20, as most customers belong to those game clubs. Also, the Sam & Max games are in the 1-3 hours of playtime, much of which is downtime trying to figure out the puzzles. Those casual games can run anywhere from 2-7 hours and it's a very busy 2-7 hours at that. The reason they keep putting out those hidden object games is because they sell, just like the match 3 games used to sell.
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| 28 MAY 2008 at 9:32pm |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By Ivinia (28 MAY 2008 6:12pm)
Most the sales of those games are in the $6.99-$9.99 range, not $20
Come on Ivinia, those reviewed games are $ 19,95!!! And that's much closer to $20,- then what you're saying.
Also, the Sam & Max games are in the 1-3 hours of playtime, much of which is downtime trying to figure out the puzzles.
That's were terrific storyline, great graphics, voice acting, humor, real adventure, music, atmosphere etc etc come in.
All these elements are NOT in the Karla Munger games.
If you read the Metacretics, you should understand that that's value for money.
(by the way: tip for invinia: buy the whole season pack of Sam and Max, for less then twice a casual Karla Munger game! Well that's value for money!!!)
Those casual games can run anywhere from 2-7 hours and it's a very busy 2-7 hours at that. The reason they keep putting out those hidden object games is because they sell, just like the match 3 games used to sell.
You're right: these are casual games. No problem with that. Some people like them, some don't.
Only; don't write raving reviews about them, because they're not raving.
Next time write 'advertisement' above these "BUY ME NOW" stories instead of 'review', simply because I respect the reviews from the other JA+ reviewers highly and depend my buywillingness (?) on them.
Read Metacretics and see that sometimes the average figure of a good adventure is lower because of the normally critical review of JA+ (Jack Cane)
JA+ is as critical as they should be.
But this degrades JA+!
And that's that.
I leave it with that. Understand that some of you, and at least all repliers, don't agree with me. Why is that?
Do you all know something I don't know. Are you all into this???
But you all couldn't convince me otherwise. I still think that those Carla Munger reviews aren't real reviews but simply advertisements. Simply because those games are terrible, sometimes even in their genre!
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| 29 MAY 2008 at 4:51am |
Lady KestrelGuild Master
Posts : 4047
Joined: 27 SEP 2004
Location: US, NJ
Status : Offline | So what you're saying, Sir Funk, is that because somebody likes a game that you don't, they must be getting paid to promote it? I think you're really off base, and I don't feel Karla deserves to be attacked like that. Personally, I like her enthusiasm.
"Where is the fountain that throws up these flowers in a ceaseless outbreak of ecstasy?"
-Rabindranath Tagore
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| 29 MAY 2008 at 7:42am |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By Lady Kestrel (29 MAY 2008 4:50am)
So what you're saying, Sir Funk, is that because somebody likes a game that you don't, they must be getting paid to promote it? I think you're really off base, and I don't feel Karla deserves to be attacked like that. Personally, I like her enthusiasm.
She is not liking a game, Lady. She's trying to convince me to buy the game. Or better: she is demanding me to buy it!
And that's strange for such lousy games.
I simply can't understand why those 'reviews' are placed on the highly respected JA+ Homepage!
Anyways, read all my replies above. I've said it all, I've made my point.
You all didn't convince me and I didn't convince you.
And that's ok with me.
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| 29 MAY 2008 at 2:10pm |
CarolineJA+ Overseer
Posts : 16552
Joined: 28 JAN 2007
Location: AU
Status : Offline | Hey.... Sir Funky's in a funk over game reviews.
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| 29 MAY 2008 at 4:38pm |
ShanyGuild Master
Posts : 3313
Joined: 19 JUN 2003
Status : Online | I don't see why you're so upset over these reviews, Sir Funk. It seems clear that you don't play casual games, so you probably don't know that their production values are low than what you are used to - though they're also produced in much shorter time.
I do agree that Karla's reviews seem overly positive and not informative enough, but to go as far as blaming them for being advertisements - that's just rude.
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| 31 MAY 2008 at 2:14am |
CarolineJA+ Overseer
Posts : 16552
Joined: 28 JAN 2007
Location: AU
Status : Offline | It's possible that Sir Funky is unimpressed with the games his gorgeous little girl is spending her time on.
Am I right Bubbah?
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| 1 JUN 2008 at 6:11am |
Randy-JAJourneyman
Posts : 1351
Joined: 11 OCT 2002
Location: US
Status : Offline | well, we generally don't make this public, but for each casual game that Karla gives a glowing grade to, she gets a free, all expenses paid trip to anywhere in the world.
I also receive free automobiles, HDTVs, high-end gaming rigs, etc. for allowing the reviews to be posted. It has become a very lucrative side business and we are considering opening a new site, 'Just Glowing Reviews of Casual Games That Give You That Warm Fuzzy Feeling' (or JGRCGTGYTWFF) for short.
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| 1 JUN 2008 at 9:08pm |
Terry PenrodGrand Inquisitor
Posts : 6694
Joined: 16 OCT 2004
Location: US, Texas
Status : Offline | .
BTW Randy, I really enjoyed the party you threw aboard the new JA+ yacht. She's even more luxurious and much bigger than the last one. I especially appreciated the diamond encrusted AG party favors, the world-class gourmet food, all the free champagne, and the private jet. Please convey my thanks to the entire crew and your personal entourage for making it a truly memorable weekend.
Cheers, Terry
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| 2 JUN 2008 at 11:48am |
CarolineJA+ Overseer
Posts : 16552
Joined: 28 JAN 2007
Location: AU
Status : Offline | Huh! As usual the Australians miss out on everything. Last time I send you guys christmas cards..... > (where's the door slamming, flouncing out in a huff smiley?)
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| 2 JUN 2008 at 1:25pm |
Randy-JAJourneyman
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Joined: 11 OCT 2002
Location: US
Status : Offline | Caroline
My apologies! We will have the JA private jet (you know, the one we got from Strategy First for giving Culpa Innata a good grade). The jet will then fly you to our private JA Adventure Island (you know, the island Got Game Entertainment gave us for the Lost Crown review).
You may have to be careful on the island though as I hear The Adventure Company has planted some deadly traps after the negative reviews JA gave to Cleopatra and The Experiment. In return, as we don't want to see any of our guests get hurt, we have promised to give Dracula Origin an A+++.
Btw, in order to participate in all of these frivolities, you do have to (beware upcoming subliminal message) - purchase at least one $20 game from either the JA Casual Store, the JA Online store or our upcoming JA Downloadable store.
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| 2 JUN 2008 at 2:50pm |
JKingSchattenjger
Posts : 2350
Joined: 4 MAY 2008
Location: 0
Status : Offline | Hey, I spent 50$ on the JA store just last month! When do I get my ticket for the round-the-world JA zeppelin tour?
You can't kill someone in a studio.
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| 3 JUN 2008 at 5:28am |
Mr Innocent.Journeyman
Posts : 1317
Joined: 15 JAN 2008
Location: GR
Status : Offline | Could you make a detour to Greece to pick me up? It would be a good opportunity for you to inspect the villa in Mykonos that Atropos Studios got you for the Diamonds in the Rough review (being an indie developer, that's all they could afford, good of you to accept such substandard [s]bribes[/s] donations).
Also, it is never too late to give Playboy: The Mansion a richly deserved triple A grade, that way we could have a few bunnies along for [s] a [/s] the ride.
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| 3 JUN 2008 at 9:15pm |
| Deleted User | Houston, we have a problem.
Although Randy tries to ridicule this topic and several members join in hastely, I do think we have a big problem.
Please read the latest review of Ryan Casey: The Lost Cases of Sherlock Holmes
Just another search-and-find-object-57-mb-download-game for a wopping [size=20]$19,95!!!
And what's the rating of this game?
an A???
with a final line as: [size=20]Hurry up and buy your copy now - the game’s afoot!???
What about:
-Agatha Christie: Death on the Nile
-Agatha Christie: Peril at End House
-The Count of Monte Cristo
All the same kind of 'search, find and hurry uppah' games for a crazy $ 20,-.
I can't wait for these reviews!!!
They can't be as good as 'The Lost Cases of Sherlock Holmes' or can they?
In short: what's happened with the critical and always reliable JA+?
These reviews are crap! And I am mad!
I am a member for serveral years now (took over the membership of my late father, sir Funkenstein sr.) but these reviews downgrate this 'adventure plus' site big time!
How can JA+ give this game an 'A' and other, far better games (what about most of the 'Broken Sword' games) less grades?
Please kick these 'advertisement/reviews' in the 'Members' Adventure Game Reviews' or better: the other game section of JA forum, where they belong.
Or name this site CG+ instead of JA+.
These games are being produced in a week by the dozen with all equal high or low quality standards!!!
Otherwise I do not understand.
8-)
Hey another BIG TITLE: The lost Tomb
Have funnah.
(I didn't want to reply after my last mail, but the very-bad-so-called-review of Sherlock and this 'hurry-let's-make-fun-of-this-topic-so-they-won't-be-wondering-themselfs' contribution by Randy, made me decide otherwise: They both proved me right)
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| 3 JUN 2008 at 11:22pm |
MKBSorcerer Apprentice
Posts : 241
Joined: 24 AUG 2006
Status : Offline | I don't care for casual games either. So when a review comes out I don't read it. I dislike action-adventures or RPGs so when a review comes out I don't bother with it. I'm not interested in the society pages of the newspaper so I ignore them. There are ads almost everywhere I look but I manage to ignore the ones that don't interest me.
I'm okay with all these things, though because I realise there are people that do enjoy them.
I don't buy download-only games. Never have, never will........Mike
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| 29 JUL 2008 at 3:51pm |
KingRyanSorcerer Apprentice
Posts : 281
Joined: 25 JAN 2004
Status : Online | For the record, I don't appreciate my review being called crap, nor a "very-bad-so-called-review." Casual games, at least as far as I know, are in a different field than regular adventure games. As a casual game, it gets an A. I am not saying it is of the same merit as Myst, I am saying as a casual game, it is of very good quality.
Oh, and don't worry, I already wrote the review for Agatha Christie: Peril at End House. And that ... oops, that got an A, too. What a piece of crap. I should make sure that review gets pulled ASAP ...
[size=14][b]Currently Playing:[/b]&&Sherlock Holmes: Nemesis[/size]
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| 30 JUL 2008 at 7:40am |
karlaAdministrator
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Joined: 27 JUL 2003
Location: US, Close to the Edge
Status : Offline | Ryan, you should feel a lot better when you get your new, fully tricked-out Lamborghini Galardo Spyder, custom-designed for JA casual game reviewers.
I got mine last week and I love it. Thanks, Randy!
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