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10 FEB 2008 at 10:07pm

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No worries Traveler, I like irreverent naughtiness too.

But since you're a newcomer and this thread was beginning to tread on thin ice, I thought I should mention the recent rule changes before a moderater stepped in.

Cheers,  Terry



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10 FEB 2008 at 10:32pm

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You're such a teddy bear Terry.   :-*

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10 FEB 2008 at 10:37pm

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Surprisingly, I still have all my soft, fuzzy fur too Caroline.

Cheers,  Terry

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11 FEB 2008 at 1:11am

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I still have all my soft, fuzzy fur too Caroline.  



[smiley=rofl.gif]  That's nice, but I rather like to imagine you as a grey grizzly.    8-)

I was at the beach the other morning with a girlfriend who is 30.  She was pointing out all the young skinny, bare-chested lads.  For some really inexplicable reason    :-?   I hadn't even noticed them.  I was eyeing up all the middle-aged chaps in their speedos who were jogging or kayaking or swimming.  [sigh]  Mother Nature is a wise girl, she fixes these things without us noticing.    


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11 FEB 2008 at 1:50am

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Oh the fur is starting the get a little gray around the edges Caroline but its still soft and fuzzy.

Can't say that Mother Nature has corrected my tendency to focus right in on nubile young women - especially at the beach (or anywhere else for that matter). It's like radar that's permanently set on firm, shapely flesh and fresh, young faces.

Don't worry though, I am well aware that most of them no longer find me attractive and I have no interest in being a sugar daddy. Besides, I've always valued a sharp mind, a great personality and a good heart above outward physical beauty. Of course, a combination of all four is awesome.

Cheers,  Terry

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11 FEB 2008 at 2:25am

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Originally Posted By Terry Penrod (11 FEB 2008 1:49am)
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Can't say that Mother Nature has corrected my tendency to focus right in on nubile young women - especially at the beach (or anywhere else for that matter).


Aahhh yes, this is standard male programming, quite normal.  


I am aware I was just as invisible to the men I was eyeing up, as they were to my younger friend, who expressed polite surprise that there were even any older men on the beach.  


Don't worry though, I am well aware that most of them no longer find me attractive ...


It isn't that at all.  They're not judging you.  You're simply invisible to them.  

Besides, I've always valued a sharp mind, a great personality and a good heart above outward physical beauty. Of course, a combination of all four is awesome.
Cheers,  Terry


For a while there I almost met the criteria....  


Although you have inspired my latest name.  What do you think...... Caroline, Awesome Moresome....  




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12 FEB 2008 at 6:08pm

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I've never really thought about Victoria being a lesbian.  However, she did sometimes have a temper, which would at least qualify her as a Raging Queen.

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22 FEB 2008 at 6:35am
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Originally Posted By Ray (12 FEB 2008 6:08pm)
I've never really thought about Victoria being a lesbian.  However, she did sometimes have a temper, which would at least qualify her as a Raging Queen.

Yes, very funny.  I've made up my mind though. If Caroline says she's not, she's not.  (I think I'm more scared of Caroline than of the opposition)  [smiley=evil.gif] Harharhar!   [smiley=devil_smiley_grintail.gif]

22 FEB 2008 at 11:34am

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I'm more scared of Caroline than of the opposition...


Moi...?  Lil' ol' cutie-pie, butter wouldn't melt in my mouth me?      [smiley=angel_smiley.gif]

Considering the scrutiny that the Brits put their Royals under I don't think such a juicy tidbit would stay hidden for very long.  

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22 FEB 2008 at 6:30pm
Deleted UserJust checking Caroline, just checking... (to see if you still read all the posts on this website)...
... and I'm very impressed to note that you do!  
Now what smiley can I use here... -how about this one?   [smiley=clap.gif]
Shall I throw in your favourate umbrella one just for moz?  [smiley=umbrella_grin.gif]

Btw, at the risk of sounding really dumb, what does :'toppieplus' mean? (See list of smileys)

23 FEB 2008 at 2:14am

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Btw, at the risk of sounding really dumb, what does :'toppieplus' mean? (See list of smileys)


Haven't a clue.   [smiley=rofl.gif]

However, don't let that stop you inserting it anywhere you want.  Probably no one else here knows what it means either so they'll just assume you do and maybe even try to work out its meaning from your usage.   [smiley=rofl.gif]

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23 FEB 2008 at 5:15am

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According to the Urban Dictionary of Slang, not the most reliable nor well alphabetized source:

toppie - A female who walks around an amusment park or other public area in a swimsuit top without a shirt that is not attractive i.e.  "That girl over there in the red bathing suit is such a toppie."

It can also mean the top of  a ramp, according to 2 guys who sent them an email.  Here's the link:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=toppie

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23 FEB 2008 at 7:04am
Deleted UserYou know, this website is amazing. At first I misjudged it to be very 'dead', but the people in here are so full of surprises, innit?
Thank you, Lady K!  Now I'm trying to figure out why an emoticon like that  [smiley=toppieplus.gif] was included for this site?  :-?
It seems to indicate a positive meaning.

23 FEB 2008 at 12:37pm

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It's an ugly girl in a bikini top?  That's delightfully ridiculous.   [smiley=rofl.gif]

Ha.  Now we have to see how Traveler manages to work that one in....  


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23 FEB 2008 at 1:06pm
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Originally Posted By Caroline (23 FEB 2008 12:36pm)
It's an ugly girl in a bikini top?  That's delightfully ridiculous.   [smiley=rofl.gif]

Ha.  Now we have to see how Traveler manages to work that one in....  


Hehe... aleady have -see post above yours!?!    [smiley=laughing.gif]

23 FEB 2008 at 6:44pm

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Originally Posted By TheTraveler (23 FEB 2008 7:04am)

Now I'm trying to figure out why an emoticon like that  [smiley=toppieplus.gif] was included for this site?  :-?
It seems to indicate a positive meaning.


I was never quite sure about that one either. I always assumed it meant something like "Hey, you can't top this!"


 


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23 FEB 2008 at 7:57pm

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I always thought it meant something like "nice topic."  Maybe we can use it for those go "over the top" in certain subjects?  [smiley=whistle.gif]

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24 FEB 2008 at 6:46am
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Originally Posted By Lady Kestrel (23 FEB 2008 7:57pm)
I always thought it meant something like "nice topic."  Maybe we can use it for those go "over the top" in certain subjects?  [smiley=whistle.gif]


Tee-hee! I suppose that means  I could use it for almost all my threads??!!?
[smiley=devil_smiley_grintail.gif]   [smiley=toppieplus.gif]

24 FEB 2008 at 10:01pm

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I too thought it was something to do with being on topic and I couldn't quite see the point.  As I'm invariably one of those that digresses from topic (I regard it as essential in fact) I never expected to have a use for it.   8-)

Now we know it's about bikinis I can't imagine EVER using it.  Is it an insult?  Should we batter someone over the head with the placard declaring them to be ugly girls in bikini tops?  I really can't imagine any of our goddesses deserving such an epithet.

Maybe Val thought it was an approval smiley saying 'great topic'?  That makes sense.

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24 FEB 2008 at 10:40pm
Deleted UserWell, we could always start using it in the context we want to, and then it should catch on, like W00t and Lol and rofl etc.
[smiley=offtopic.gif]  Even though wer'e seriously off topic here, I wish we'd rather use another thread. I was really hoping the real topic (being: Q Victoria: ???orientation??), would slowly sink more and more downwards in this forum.

I know what, I'll start a new topic?  Howzat?    [smiley=thumbs.gif]

25 FEB 2008 at 12:55am

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Originally Posted By TheTraveler (24 FEB 2008 10:40pm)

I know what, I'll start a new topic?  Howzat?    [smiley=thumbs.gif]


If you must.... how energetic of you....  [smiley=yawn.gif] .... I actually went back to bed for an hour this morning to get a bit of 'top up' sleep.   I wonder.... does that mean I can have two breakfasts?  


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12 MAR 2008 at 4:14pm

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Well Traveller, you certainly managed to pick my curiosity.

I have finished Sherlock Holmes versus Arsene Lupin, and Leomunda's scandalous promises for sexual rewards for services rendered aside ( and Holmes' infuriating refusal to take her up on them, but I digress) I simply can't recall anyone hinting, much less declaring Victoria's  homosexuality. I'll reinstall and replay that part, but it would be quicker if you pointed out the exact place it occurred. Was the word gay actually used?Are you sure you aren't misinterpreting it, as "gay" back then meant happy and amiable?

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13 MAR 2008 at 7:00am
Deleted UserWhen Watson enters the building with Sherlock, he asks something like: My goodness, why would Queen Victoria find herself in such a "queer" domestic situation.  Then Sherlock answers something like:" Who knows what really goes on in the monarch's private life."
These aren't the exact words, but it's pretty close to that. I've just uninstalled the game to make space, guess I could reinstall to check on the exact words for you.

I couldn't help finding the character of Leomunda as out of place as a prostitute in the capacity of advisor to the Pope. Why would queen Victoria spoil a common tart to the point of ridiculousness, make personal visits to her bedchamber, and give her intimate, silly little presents which spark silly emotional rows which have all the elements of a lover's quarrel?

It is the very presence of the character Leomunda and the tone of her relationship with Victoria that I found distasteful. I never said when I started the post that there were outright scenes or dialogues that involved a gay relationship between Victoria and Leomunda, excepting Watsons "queer" remark; - I merely said it was implied.
However, how much more explicitly could such a relationship be implied, I ask you, short of showing a scene with the two women in bed together?
Games usually only subtly hint at some things, especially those of a sexual nature.
Tell me, if Victoria had been a man, would you not have automatically assumed Leomunda to have been his mistress?

13 MAR 2008 at 12:26pm

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Originally Posted By TheTraveler (29 JAN 2008 9:46am)
Tell me, if Victoria had been a man, would you not have automatically assumed Leomunda to have been his mistress?


No  
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At any rate, Victoria was not a man. In fact, she did have a close relationship with Mr. Brown that half the planet "automatically assumed" was sexual in nature, which has never been conclusively proven either way.

I do not know if the antics between Queen Victoria and Leomunda have any claim to historical accuracy, and the fact that the developers depicted a close companion of the queen as an air headed tart may be questionable, but no more so than if they had shown her surrounded by nuns deep in prayer. Both seem unrealistic.

Anyhow, the situation being presented as it is, Holmes' and Watson's remarks are understandable. The fact that they thought that something queer was going on (by the way, the word took it's modern meaning at around that time) is not in any way  proof, or even evidence, is it? It's simply their opinion, one that anyone might have about anyone.  

 


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