| 24 JAN 2008 at 10:02pm |
SirDaveGuild Master


Posts : 4941 Joined: 17 OCT 2002 Location: US
Status : Offline | It occurs to me that maybe Destination: Treasure Island might also fill the bill here. While I have it, it's still in the shrinkwrap, but the reviews seem consistent that it is an easy, low-impact, enjoyable 1st person game. Plus, it's easy to come by- available here at the JA store.

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| 24 JAN 2008 at 10:17pm |
AndromusGuild Master


Posts : 5538 Joined: 6 NOV 2002
Status : Offline | And I've just remembered Agon: The Mysterious Codex. It's first person, mostly moderate in difficulty, and consists of short episodes.
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| 24 JAN 2008 at 11:15pm |
CarolineJA+ Overseer


Posts : 16540 Joined: 28 JAN 2007 Location: AU
Status : Offline | Okay.
Anyone who enjoyed Myst but disliked Riven needs help. Preferably help with learning how to relax and enjoy running around in Riven, riding the cable cars, tapping on the glass to annoy the big fish, etc..... It's the best game of the entire Myst series.
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| 25 JAN 2008 at 3:06pm |
CulturaJourneyman


Posts : 1337 Joined: 1 SEP 2004 Location: NL, Amersfoort
Status : Offline | The Journeyman series is indeed great, but only JP3 is (relatively) easy (no walkthrough needed) and the most atmospheric of the lot. The earlier installments require some tweaking in XP os run in a window, which is not that great to look at. JP3 works fine and is indeed one of the best games I've played period.
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| 26 JAN 2008 at 12:09am |
TerramaxIntergalactic Janitor


Posts : 89 Joined: 26 NOV 2004
Status : Online | Holy cow, you guys have been busy since I've been away.
You don't mention Syberia I&II which although 3rd person pov, have small inventories and easy to follow and solve puzzles. These two games have a charming storyline and rather beautiful graphics.
Yes, I've played the first one. I can't seem to get far into it before another game grabs my attention. I've had to take Jane Walker's luggage up those flippin' stairs about 10 time now! I will get round to playing this all the way through (the game's available on Metaboli.co.uk, which I'm subscribed to). Also, I'm really not in the mood for inventory based puzzles. I'm playing Cleopatra and the game is hard mainly because I have to circle around locations 20 times before i find all items. Goes without saying I'm terrible at noticing items on the floor.
And a personal favourite of mine, Timelapse which although an older game is now available at Amazon.
Wow! This game looks really good. The review on Justadventure needs updating though. Not very thorough. Is it 360 pan? Will it work on XP? I'll have to order import as it's not available on Amazon.co.uk.
Egyptian Prophecy
I'll look into this. Again, I think this is available on Metaboli.
if you liked atlantis 3 then definately atlantis 2 (longer than 3 though and harder) and secrets of atlantis (short and easy)
I think I bought number 2 but couldn't get it working on my PC. Again, Secrets of Atlantis is on Metaboli, so I'll download that in due course.
Road to India
I couldn't get into that. The production values were just... terrible. Sorry to say, it didn't grab me by the nuts the way a game should.
I highly recommend Riddle of the Sphinx II: The
Looks a bit bare but it seems to have a certain charm to it. I'll keep this game in mind.
Zork Grand Inquisitor.
Aren't I right in saying the Zork games are very temperamental with XP? This is the reason why I've not bought it, as there's an aging Xplosive copy at my local game shop.
I recommend Amber: Journeys Beyond. It fits your requirements as it's first person, fairly short, and relatively easy in difficulty. It does have a horror theme, but don't let that stand in your way. It's a great game.
Does it work well on XP though? I decided to take the risk ordering it as it was cheap enough and the reviews say a lot about it. People moan that it's a little too short, but I love ultra short games. Short by sweet that is. I've always got another game on my shelf I'm wanting to play next. I can't be bothered to spend 20+ hours on a game unless it's seriously good.
Dracula: Resurrection
I've got both Dracula games on my Amazon wishlist but I'm worried they're not compatible with XP. Can anyone clarify? I've seen a PSX version working and it seems a bit of alright
How can anyone recommend for EASY games: Reah (impossible) Schizm 1 & 2 (only for hardcore math enthusiasts) Aura (def not easy!) The Omega Stone (lots and lots of reading and not light stuff at that) and so on? Or is anyone just interested in throwing any game into this topic? Easy, 1st person, NOT horror (as asked, so no dracula) would be IMO: The Egyptian Prophecy Amerzone (best of the lot) AtlantisII/Beyond Atlantis (little bit more difficult, but no walkthruigh recquired)
Owned Reah. It wasn't hard, but the way you panned left and right was just IRRATATING! Same goes for Schizm. There was something quite 'meh' about the graphics on both too (I didn't get Schizm DVD though). I played the demo of Schizm 2 and it didn't quite rock my boat.
I played the Aura I & II demo and, as shallow this sounds of me, it was the graphical style that put me off. Especially the first with that medievil look. Plus the demo didn't give me much of an indication of what I was supposed to be doing. Again, these are notoriously hard.
Amerzone - played it, had its moments. If only the resolution was better (doesn't look good with a 24inch monitor!). Sokal really should return to 1st person adventures.
Oh, I wouldn't worry too much about relative degree of difficulty guys. After all, Terramax said, 1st persons I've played and enjoyed are Myst, Myst III: Exile, Myst IV: Revelation, Amerzone, Post Mortem, The Dark Eye and Atlantis III (would have completed if it weren't for being buggy). Others I've played but not too keen on: Riven, Dark Fall 2, Aura (too hard!), a few horror 1st person demos, and I'm currently playing Cleopatra, but I'm sure I can't get any further because I'm missing an item of some sorts. If Terramax was able to handle the Myst series, then he/she can deal with some pretty sophisticated puzzles. Of the easier non-horror, first-person AGs I've played, it also just occurred to me that (assuming you can still find them and if you can get them to work on a newer PC) The Journeyman Series might appeal to Terramax. Cheers, Terry
Riven and Myst: Revelatin owned me. I've recently gotten hold of the Prima walkthrough for Revelation (it goes for £79 on Amazon.co.uk- I got it for £6 including P + P mwahahahahahaahaha *cough, cough, wheeze*).
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| 26 JAN 2008 at 12:17am |
TerramaxIntergalactic Janitor


Posts : 89 Joined: 26 NOV 2004
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Post Mortem did take some time and I was on and off with that game mainly due to the bugs. In fact, because of the bugs of the game I can't complete the godforsaken game. Which is the shame of the decade for me as I'm so close to the end and I've really enjoyed the story so far. The bug has got something to do with the candles you hold up to the painting in the Alabamic. don't know if anyone else has suffered such a problem?
Dark Eye didn't even have any puzzles. It's a good game, but I can't understand why it's in JA's top 5 adventures.
I'm interested in this Journeyman 3 but does it work on XP?
Anyone who enjoyed Myst but disliked Riven needs help. Preferably help with learning how to relax and enjoy running around in Riven, riding the cable cars, tapping on the glass to annoy the big fish, etc..... WinkIt's the best game of the entire Myst series.
I'm not getting into this arguement again. The game is a maze. I bought a DVD version, single disc, I bought a walkthrough and still I couldn't get into it. I can't get into static adventures (The Dark Eye being the only acception for its interactivity and atmosphere).
Riven doesn't fit the bill. I can see why those adore it whom experienced the game during the time of its first release, but as someone who's come to adventure games later, where so many technically superior games have been made i.e. Revelation, it just doesn't cut the mustard.
Same goes for Dark Fall. I played the 2nd. Excellent execution. But I couldn't get into it. Again, this was because of static camera. It's just a pet hatred of mine. So shoot me.
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| 26 JAN 2008 at 1:07am |
Terry PenrodGrand Inquisitor


Posts : 6693 Joined: 16 OCT 2004 Location: US, Texas
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Hi Terramax -
The Journeyman Project 3: Legacy of Time is a marvelous first-person adventure game that employs a modified version of Quick Time to allow for panoramic views and a zoom effect that replicates forward motion as well as some extremely well done in-game dialog scenes using live actors set agaist rendered backgrounds. It has a very cool time travel sci-fi story that takes you to the three great mythical cities of Atlantis, Shangri-La and El Dorado in both the distant past and the farflung future in an ultimate search for the meaning of life. The in-game artwork is simply glorious for an older title and the cut scenes are world class.
The puzzles are of medium difficulty and some are indeed inventory based. They also require that you traverse time to pick-up clues and there is one maze area. But a walkthough will get you through any snags quite easily. There is also a handy robotic companion named Arthur who will offer hints if you want him to. If not, you can also adjust the amount of input / feedback he offers or turn that feature off altogether.
Regarding compatibility with Windows XP, most people are able to play it without any problems. However, some have reported experiencing a rather annoying sound bug on newer systems. I believe there is a workaround but can not attest to it. So be sure to Google the title and look for any forum threads that offer a solution before buying the game.
Cheers, Terry
P.S. Be sure to get the DVD version if at all possible to avoid a lot of disc swapping.
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| 26 JAN 2008 at 2:40am |
Jenny100Guild Master


Posts : 3510 Joined: 12 OCT 2002
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Terramax (26 JAN 2008 12:09am) I recommend Amber: Journeys Beyond. It fits your requirements as it's first person, fairly short, and relatively easy in difficulty. It does have a horror theme, but don't let that stand in your way. It's a great game.
Does it work well on XP though? I decided to take the risk ordering it as it was cheap enough and the reviews say a lot about it. People moan that it's a little too short, but I love ultra short games. Short by sweet that is. I've always got another game on my shelf I'm wanting to play next. I can't be bothered to spend 20+ hours on a game unless it's seriously good. Amber won't work on XP at all unless you run it inside a virtual machine. People have played it using VirtualPC, which is a free download. But you need a copy of Windows 95 or 98 to install inside the virtual computer. If you can get it working properly, you can try other Windows 95/98 games that you've had problems running on XP.
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| 26 JAN 2008 at 7:48am |
_oswaldIntergalactic Janitor


Posts : 43 Joined: 10 OCT 2003
Status : Online | Don't You Even Think of playing Conspiracies!
The puzzle are Intense! But when You Are done with Childish Games (Pfft, JourneyKID Project, more Like It!), Step Up to the Big LEagues!
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| 26 JAN 2008 at 9:32am |
CarolineJA+ Overseer


Posts : 16540 Joined: 28 JAN 2007 Location: AU
Status : Offline | Re Syberia. These games aren't true inventory based. You don't pick up half the planet and stash it in your backpack (like Return to Mysterious Island). You literally only carry a couple of items before you need to use them. And there is absolutely NO combining strange objects to make crazy inventions.  efinitely get back to them.
Once embarked on your train journey with Kate Walker you really will enjoy the charm - and the games are quite short.
Oh, and Timelapse is a truly lovely game. No inventory. And multiple endings. Linear gameplay though, no mazes, impossible to become confused about what to do next.
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| 26 JAN 2008 at 7:16pm |
Jenny100Guild Master


Posts : 3510 Joined: 12 OCT 2002
Status : Offline | My favorite review of "Return to Mysterious Island," by Andrew Plotkin. http://www.eblong.com/zarf/gamerev/mysteriousisland.html
...The nifty thing is that the designers have deliberately (I believe) switched the focus of the game from the world panorama to the inventory window... The extra-nifty thing is that this is not a weakness. Having decided to use this game focus, the designers followed through on it. They put in enough Stuff, and enough interesting combinations, that the inventory window is fun to play with... It's the same mimetic leap that good adventures games have always required. The only difference is that it's about what you're carrying, not what you're standing next to.... His discussion is well worth reading IMO.
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| 26 JAN 2008 at 7:49pm |
GelertPrivate Detective


Posts : 492 Joined: 14 MAY 2004
Status : Offline | Hi Terramax,
You could do worse than try '[highlight]Monet: The Mystery of the Orangery[/highlight]'. It's an underrated, easy-paced Adventure (except for the last bit), and it's very easy. It's one of the first 1st-person Adventures I tried, at a time when I was very much a fan of 3rd-person Adventures only.
You'll find it easily enough on trading sites and eBay, I should think.
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| 27 JAN 2008 at 10:39am |
AlGrooverIntergalactic Janitor


Posts : 40 Joined: 11 SEP 2005
Status : Online | Sentinelescendants in Time has no inventory based puzzles, a great story and a very beautiful 3D environment especially if your computer can run at max graphics.
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| 27 JAN 2008 at 1:13pm |
CarolineJA+ Overseer


Posts : 16540 Joined: 28 JAN 2007 Location: AU
Status : Offline | I'd forgotten about Sentinel - but I enjoyed the puzzles in that and in fact I sometimes think of a couple. Quirky little game.
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| 28 JAN 2008 at 9:29am |
HellSpawnSpace Cadet


Posts : 197 Joined: 19 FEB 2007
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Terramax (26 JAN 2008 12:09am)
Aren't I right in saying the Zork games are very temperamental with XP? This is the reason why I've not bought it, as there's an aging Xplosive copy at my local game shop.
I use XP and Zork Grand Inquisitor works flawlessly on my computer.
I fear no evil for I am fear incarnate!
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| 28 JAN 2008 at 9:38pm |
CarolineJA+ Overseer


Posts : 16540 Joined: 28 JAN 2007 Location: AU
Status : Offline | I can't get Zork to work on my XP machine.  o you use compatability mode or some other tweak? For me, the cursor spins me around so fast that movement is impossible. I've heard so much about this game that I'd really like to play it.
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| 29 JAN 2008 at 3:47am |
InlandAZGuild Master


Posts : 5586 Joined: 4 MAY 2007
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Caroline (28 JAN 2008 9:38pm) I can't get Zork to work on my XP machine. Do you use compatability mode or some other tweak? For me, the cursor spins me around so fast that movement is impossible. I've heard so much about this game that I'd really like to play it. You need to drink several one zorkmid, zorkmoids. The spinning doesn't have nearly the same affect after that Not much you can do about the speed issue so far as I'm aware, you might try something like Mo'Slo for Windows.
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| 29 JAN 2008 at 4:05am |
SirDaveGuild Master


Posts : 4941 Joined: 17 OCT 2002 Location: US
Status : Offline | Here's a better solution: Get a good business rotating stool (the type with the round cushion and no arms or backrest)- make sure it is the type that has high-quality bearings. Now, while sitting on the stool, make sure it spins at the same rate, but in the opposite direction of the spinning cursor. If you do it just right, the cursor will hardly seem to spin at all. Take my word for it... You can trust me...

The future ain't what it used to be!
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| 29 JAN 2008 at 11:54am |
CarolineJA+ Overseer


Posts : 16540 Joined: 28 JAN 2007 Location: AU
Status : Offline | Men! : You just can't say you don't know the answer to something can you? Oh no.... you have to act all smartass.....
..... love you just the way you are. :-*
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| 29 JAN 2008 at 7:53pm |
Terry PenrodGrand Inquisitor


Posts : 6693 Joined: 16 OCT 2004 Location: US, Texas
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Originally Posted By SirDave (29 JAN 2008 4:05am) Here's a better solution: Get a good business rotating stool (the type with the round cushion and no arms or backrest)- make sure it is the type that has high-quality bearings. Now, while sitting on the stool, make sure it spins at the same rate, but in the opposite direction of the spinning cursor. If you do it just right, the cursor will hardly seem to spin at all. Take my word for it... You can trust me...
I tried your workaround Dave and got so dizzy I fell off the stool... until I realized that you have to blink your eyes in synch with the rotation so they are only open for the split second you're facing the screen and closed while you spin around for the other 345 degrees. Once you get the timing down, it works like a charm.
Cheers, Terry
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| 29 JAN 2008 at 9:40pm |
TerramaxIntergalactic Janitor


Posts : 89 Joined: 26 NOV 2004
Status : Online | Thanks for the hint at Journeyman 3, Terry. Myst III: Exile is one of my fav games, and this was Presto’s previous game before it, so I’ll defo look into it.
Oh, and Timelapse is a truly lovely game. No inventory. And multiple endings. Linear gameplay though, no mazes, impossible to become confused about what to do next.
Although I don’t think I’ll mind if it’s not, is it 360 pan? Also, any issues with XP?
Amber won't work on XP at all unless you run it inside a virtual machine. People have played it using VirtualPC, which is a free download. But you need a copy of Windows 95 or 98 to install inside the virtual computer. If you can get it working properly, you can try other Windows 95/98 games that you've had problems running on XP.
I’ve received the game but not looked at it at all. Is it a Dos game (hence useable on Dosbox)?
The puzzle are Intense! But when You Are done with Childish Games (Pfft, JourneyKID Project, more Like It!), Step Up to the Big LEagues!
I apologies for not having the intelligence you have.
My favorite review of "Return to Mysterious Island," by Andrew Plotkin.
Played the demo, didn’t like it. I must express I really am extremely tired of item based games. For years I’ve been playing 3rd person adventures. The reason why I’m looking into 1st persons in the first place is mainly because some are absent of items.
No offence, it had some great ideas, but it’s not what I’m after right now.
You could do worse than try 'Monet: The Mystery of the Orangery'. It's an underrated, easy-paced Adventure (except for the last bit), and it's very easy. It's one of the first 1st-person Adventures I tried, at a time when I was very much a fan of 3rd-person Adventures only.
Never even heard of this one. I’ll look into it, thanks.
Sentinel escendants in Time has no inventory based puzzles, a great story and a very beautiful 3D environment especially if your computer can run at max graphics.
I was very close to buying that on one occasion. I’ll look into it again. Is there a demo?
Here's a better solution: Get a good business rotating stool (the type with the round cushion and no arms or backrest)- make sure it is the type that has high-quality bearings. Now, while sitting on the stool, make sure it spins at the same rate, but in the opposite direction of the spinning cursor. If you do it just right, the cursor will hardly seem to spin at all. Take my word for it... You can trust me...
Yeah, I got one of those last week. I installed it by my PC and played right away. The game had a major flaw; too much pixel hunting. I really need to clean my house…
Just wanna thank everyone again for all the suggestions so far. Journeyman 3, Timelapse and Omega Stone seem like the way to go so far but I’m open for more suggestions.
P.S. Myst IV: Revelation is still kicking my behind, even with a frickin’ player’s guide. It’s just too detailed in some sections of Spire, grrr!
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| 29 JAN 2008 at 11:44pm |
CarolineJA+ Overseer


Posts : 16540 Joined: 28 JAN 2007 Location: AU
Status : Offline | I love the Myst series but I gave up trying to work it out with Spire and retreated into the walkthrough. Nothing wrong with admitting the logic behind the puzzles defeated me.  o what you need to enjoy the game - it's not an exam.
Sorry but I can't answer the Timelapse question. I remember the game well - I've played it several times - but it's reasonably old 1996ish. I do remember that I used arrow keys and not mouse for getting around. The atmosphere was terrific. So far the two friends I've bullied into playing this game both enjoyed it enormously.
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| 30 JAN 2008 at 8:41pm |
TerramaxIntergalactic Janitor


Posts : 89 Joined: 26 NOV 2004
Status : Online | Agreed. Myst III: Exile and Sanitarium were both easy-peasy even for the likes of me, which is saying something, but I enjoyed every moment of them. This is another reason why I'm after the easier adventures.
With Spire, it's not that I can't solve the puzzles though, simply that the levels are too gigantic and overloaded with visuals that I can't tell what's going one. The fuss puzzle is pretty simple, if only they didn't have all the boxes placed in random, inconvenient places and so far appart, and Sirrus didn't have a habit of dropping sheets of paper in the equally most random of places.
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| 31 JAN 2008 at 5:06pm |
RetrogamerIntergalactic Janitor


Posts : 84 Joined: 29 JAN 2008
Status : Online | If you like puzzles and don't mind slightly dated graphics, there's RHEM 1 and 2. They're all about the puzzles and not a lot about exploration, but the puzzles are amazing and generally intuitive. RHEM 2 is definitely the prettier of the two, but the gameplay is solid in both. If you like puzzles, you'll love RHEM.
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