| 4 JAN 2008 at 12:48am |
AyaGrand Inquisitor
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Status : Offline | i think most ppl read the newspaper more as a ritual rather than for the sake of the news... smth like breakfast+newspaper or come home-sit in armchair-read newspaper... i don't read newspapers but i do read 2 game magazines every month, and it's more because of the feel of the magazine rather than new information (well one is retro gamer so there can't be "new" information but you get the point)
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| 4 JAN 2008 at 1:44am |
CarolineJA+ Overseer
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Status : Offline | We buy 3 weekend papers and I get the English paper once a week. That's more than enough paper to throw out. What the papers give me that the internet can't is greater detail + pictures on overseas topics, analysis on the political front, local/social/arts in depth articles, portability, and the tactile enjoyment. But oh, the pages and pages of adverts that I simply chuck straight into the recycle bin..... [smiley=shaking_head.gif]
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| 4 JAN 2008 at 10:42am |
Lucien21Guild Master
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Status : Offline | I havn't bought a paper in years.
I get all my news online or on the TV.
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| 4 JAN 2008 at 2:14pm |
| Deleted User | We've 2 newspapers: a morningpaper wich is more on the sensation/emotional side and an evening/serious paper.
Our, eleven year old, daughter has a weekly newspaper for kids.
And although she loves internet and all, she takes her time for this newspaper.
We have learned her that.
I don't think that newspapers will be finished.
I DO think that payed newspapers will be finished. We don't want to pay for news anymore. At least in the near future.
Nowadays there are 3 free newspapers and they have all increased quantities.
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| 4 JAN 2008 at 2:49pm |
HelenGuild Master
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Status : Offline | I read the newspaper most days, partly ritual as Aya says but also because I do like to read the news. Its hard for me to get it in on the days I work but I at least get a little of it. I have to say I would be very upset if I couldnt have my morning newspaper here knowing I can read it IF and WHEN I have the time.
Every once in a whle we dont get it for some reason or other and it really throws my day off and makes me angry. I just dont like reading the news on the internet. prefer having it on my kitchen table or in front of me oon the living room couch. [smiley=shrug.gif]
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| 4 JAN 2008 at 7:31pm |
challis3Intergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | I don't think I could function without my morning paper. I don't watch the news, prefer the paper since I can read only the articles that interest me. And of course the tactile pleasure from holding the paper and doing my crossword is worth the subscription alone!
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| 4 JAN 2008 at 8:28pm |
jenmarieIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Offline | I don't get a newspaper now, but in college there was some program that the school could offer newspapers for free to students and teachers. I believe we had the New York Times, The USA Today, and the Washington Post. They would get piled in certain bins in different buildings and you could just take one. I usually made it over to the Physics building to try and grab one, but many times there were none left. The free papers were actually kind of hot items on campus.
I like newspapers, even though I get some news online. I notice I'm more likely to read a little bit about everything (first paragraph) and read newsworthy stories I might not otherwise. On something like CNN.com if the title doesn't catch my attention I don't click on it, and so read nothing about the story. And I'm more likely to click on either big things or human interest. The lesser known news stories slip by me unless I'm really bored at work.
Also, I think newspapers do more investigating than a TV/internet place like CNN where so much of it is entertainment as much as it is news.
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| 4 JAN 2008 at 9:11pm |
SirDaveGuild Master
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Status : Offline | I don't see how anyone can keep well informed by depending on the internet for the main reason that newspapers can inform you of multiple happenings and events at one time and the detail is there right in front of you. Note that I'm not inferring that you can't get comparable detail on a single subject from the internet, but you have to know that an event has occurred in order to search for it on the internet. I also understand that you could go to certain sites and get the 'headlines of the day', but that still restricts you to those particular immediate subjects.
Just take a look at the subject matter in the 5 or 6 big-city American newspapers to see the amount of detail that is in them on a myriad of subjects from local to national politics to various human interest and science-related articles. Not to mention the op-ed and editorial material. You can quickly scan through all these subjects very quickly in the typical newspaper and become informed very quickly and in depth if you read the entire content of given articles. One of my favorite times of the day is the time I spend reading the newspaper. If that makes me a dinosaur then I'm a relatively well-read dinosaur.
The circulation of American newspapers is decreasing and it is a shame, if not a travesty. To me it is a sign that Americans are increasingly not as well-informed on issues as they should be.
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| 4 JAN 2008 at 9:16pm |
JelenaPrivate Detective
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Status : Offline | Interesting topic. Yes, I do believe newspaper will eventually die out and I find it sad in a way.
We have a local newspaper evey morning and I do read it thoroughly every day. The national and international news I get on the internet which I check several times a day. I've gotten used to be updated that way and I wouldn't want to go back even though I often find it a burden to get all those horrible and sad news about what's going on in the world all the time.
I find myself reading about so much horror I can't take in anymore and it leaves me indifferent to much of it.
I really can't say if that's good or bad.
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| 4 JAN 2008 at 9:45pm |
CarolineJA+ Overseer
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Status : Offline | The weekend papers I read are full of diverse topics but I find it difficult to get through them all by the following weekend. I actually cut some out 'to read later' and that folder is growing. I like the op-eds and the political analaysis (saves me a lot of time) and the science articles and especially the book and arts focus stuff. And it's more comfortable reading in an armchair than on the net, where half of this stuff isn't available anyway.
It's possible that we will stop wasting resources on the paper eventually but I think for that to happen the internet would have to have improved to fill the gap. I don't think the population will accept less information being available when all the signs are that information is becoming more abundant and accessible.
Don't forget, the newest generation was born with a mobile phone in its hand. They expect fingertip access.
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| 4 JAN 2008 at 10:24pm |
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For depth and perspective, I still prefer newspapers, magazines and books but there are also advantages to the instant access and convenience that electronic media provides. We've had the latter on TV and radio for a long time though, so I see no major advantage to the Internet in regards to breaking news. But the web also offers interactivity along with extra layers of depth that can be easily accessed anytime and almost anywhere. It also makes saving and sharing text, still images and multimedia content a lot faster, easier and cheaper.
On the other hand, I really like the tactile pleasure and more intimate connection one gets when reading / viewing traditional printed material. I still love physical libraries / book stores too and enjoy the heft of a good tome or the Sunday paper. Those things just feel more complete, more substantial, more real. However, they do waste an awful lot trees... so I'm a bit torn on that issue.
Cheers, Terry
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| 5 JAN 2008 at 6:04pm |
SirDaveGuild Master
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Status : Offline | There are some unappreciated benefits from reading newspapers:
So just after reading the morning newspaper, I'm in the line for coffee at Starbucks and seeing this statuesque blonde behind me, I turn around and say, 'Did you know that the Chachapoya in Peru were known as the 'cloud warriors' and co-existed with the Inca until they died out rather suddenly in the 1500s?' She looked at me somewhat adoringly as I walked out with my 180 low-fat grande Cappuccino!
IMO, there is a real possibility that the paper-based newspaper will give way to something like what is offered in Amazon's Kindle (very portable & about the size of a large paperbook), whereby you can download text content immediately from anywhere (for a charge of course). These electronic devices are providing more of a 'paper/ink-like' appearance than previously possible. I think this is more likely than newspapers giving way to computer-based internet access. After all, who wants to sit hunched over a computer to read news all the time. Before this happens there will have to be a least 2 or 3 more iterations of the Kindle type of device allowing more resolution & a larger amount of text on a 'page', not to mention allowing for good colour px which the Kindle doesn't have at present.
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| 5 JAN 2008 at 9:11pm |
Terry PenrodGrand Inquisitor
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I agree Dave. However, even a perfect portable electronic reader would still be cold, uniform and need to be remotely connected to invisible databases when browsing and downloading content. I like the fact that printed material comes in all different shapes, sizes and styles. It is more eclectic, tangible, tactile and engages the reader in a much more intimate, private, personal way.
Cheers, Terry
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| 5 JAN 2008 at 9:23pm |
CarolineJA+ Overseer
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Status : Offline | Yeah.... the joys of trying to fold a newspaper into a manageable size while sitting outside with the slightest breeze....
Or splitting up the Saturday paper between you - the magazine with its bright glossy cover, the political section, the pages and pages of cars for sale...., the real estate with impossibly tidy homes with delicious swimming pools and million dollar price tags, the jobs section, the horse racing section, the sport section, the coloured children's cartoons and puzzles section.
I'm not kidding. My weekend paper has all these sections folded up inside the main news section. Naturally I chuck some of them unread straight into the recycle pile.
But there is something very satisfying about discovering a full page article about something/someone that you hadn't even been thinking about but there it is - a headline and picture you can't resist about something you're suddenly very, very curious about..... you fold and refold until it's a decent size, and you mentally give yourself a half hour to relax and read....
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| 5 JAN 2008 at 9:26pm |
Lucien21Guild Master
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Status : Offline | I have a Sony Reader which I took on holiday to Florida this year.
No longer take loads of paperbacks on the plane. My Reader had about 100 books on it.
The screen is amazing, it's just like reading off of paper due to the screen reflecting light and not emitting it.
Yes the Kindle offers newspapers etc, but it's not good enought yet to replace the newspapers.
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| 5 JAN 2008 at 10:30pm |
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Originally Posted By Caroline (5 JAN 2008 9:22pm)
Yeah.... the joys of trying to fold a newspaper into a manageable size while sitting outside with the slightest breeze....
Or splitting up the Saturday paper between you - the magazine with its bright glossy cover, the political section, the pages and pages of cars for sale...., the real estate with impossibly tidy homes with delicious swimming pools and million dollar price tags, the jobs section, the horse racing section, the sport section, the coloured children's cartoons and puzzles section.
I'm not kidding. My weekend paper has all these sections folded up inside the main news section. Naturally I chuck some of them unread straight into the recycle pile.
But there is something very satisfying about discovering a full page article about something/someone that you hadn't even been thinking about but there it is - a headline and picture you can't resist about something you're suddenly very, very curious about..... you fold and refold until it's a decent size, and you mentally give yourself a half hour to relax and read....
Not to mention the big, weekly Sunday crossword puzzles DONE IN INK to force you to actually think through every answer thoroughly before just randomly scribbling them down. Electronic crosswords just aren't the same to me.
I also like the sheer size of pictorial speads in newspapers and the fact that glossy inserts look and feel different from the main sections. Heck, they can even contain free product samples, scratch-offs, scratch 'n' sniffs, pre-printed coupons, bumper stickers, origami cut-outs, fold-out posters and other cool stuff. It's just more fun than scrolling and clicking with a mouse.
Cheers, Terry
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| 6 JAN 2008 at 1:22am |
SirDaveGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Terry Penrod (5 JAN 2008 9:11pm)
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I agree Dave. However, even a perfect portable electronic reader would still be cold, uniform and need to be remotely connected to invisible databases when browsing and downloading content. I like the fact that printed material comes in all different shapes, sizes and styles. It is more eclectic, tangible, tactile and engages the reader in a much more intimate, private, personal way.
Totally agree. I was indicating what I think is going to happen not what I would like to see happen, except for the point that if there has to be a change towards an 'electronic' device, I would prefer that it be in the form of the Kindle/Sony reader (they both use the same patented technology) rather than a computer on the internet.
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| 6 JAN 2008 at 1:57am |
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Originally Posted By SirDave (6 JAN 2008 1:22am)
Totally agree. I was indicating what I think is going to happen not what I would like to see happen, except for the point that if there has to be a change towards an 'electronic' device, I would prefer that it be in the form of the Kindle/Sony reader (they both use the same patented technology) rather than a computer on the internet.
Understood Dave and I agree it's inevitable that we will all be moving further and further away from static, wasteful ink on paper to more efficient electronic formats. I was just taking the opportunity to wax nostalgic about one more enjoyable thing in life that's going the way of the dinosaur. I'll also miss long handwritten personal letters, hardback encyclopedias, massive almanacs and sexy four-color centerfolds of the month with staples in their adorable little bellybuttons when they too have been deemed completely obsolete.
Cheers, Terry
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| 6 JAN 2008 at 6:46am |
SirDaveGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Terry Penrod (6 JAN 2008 1:56am)
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...and sexy four-color centerfolds of the month with staples in their adorable little bellybuttons when they too have been deemed completely obsolete.
Depending on the centerfold's position, the staples can be in some of their various other adorable parts...
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| 6 JAN 2008 at 7:24am |
CarolineJA+ Overseer
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Status : Offline | Good lord, what sort of newspaper are you boys reading? :
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