| 3 JUN 2008 at 7:12am |
Mr Innocent.Journeyman
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Status : Offline | I got Myst when I was about 16 (though it was out for a while, and in fact I had already played a few of its clones, like Timelapse, before I ever got it) and it felt above my head even then. The fact that I got the first Tomb Raider at about the same time certainly didn't help my attention span. In my defense, apart from the 3 or 4 polygons that made up Lara's impressive if blocky physique, Tomb Raider had some of the most devilish environmental puzzles in an action/adventure ever, and expertly designed levels that rewarded exploration.
I've developed a morbid fear of "getting stupid", so I'll try anything that suggests my brain can be sharpened on it.
Well, it isn't the most rational phobia (now there's an oxymoron) I've ever heard of, but anything that promotes adventure gaming is fine in my book .
Pen and paper to take meticulous notes are necessary to make any kind of progress in most Myst-like puzzlers. I found The Sentinel (that's what Realms of Illusion was called in my part of the world) to be of above average but never frustrating difficulty, and there is a built-in hint system to help you along if you need it.
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| 3 JUN 2008 at 7:40pm |
Joe_MolotovSpace Cadet
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Status : Online | I'm playing Perry Rhodan and Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis.
Rhodan has pretty solid production values and decent puzzles so far, but the plot is baffling. I understand it's based on a German Sci-Fi series that's been running for 40 years, and playing this game makes me feel like I'm trying to catch up on 40 years of backstory. I'll stick with it for a while and see what happens.
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| 5 JUN 2008 at 11:56am |
| Deleted User | I've decided to give up on and uninstall Egypt 3 and Anacapri: The Dream, as I'm simply being bombarded by more exciting games.
I've just installed my pre-ordered copy of Mass-Effect that I went to pick up this morning, and as we speak, I'm awaiting a delivery of the following package:
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1 x ARXEL TRIBE SECRETS OF ALAMUT
1 x ARXEL TRIBE LEGEND OF THE PROPHET AND THE ASSASSIN
1 x Microids: Dracula 1 & 2
1 x Microids: Syberia 1 & 2
1 x Legend of Lotus Spring (Jewel Case)
...and if that shouldn't already be overwhelming enough; I'm still trying to get through Dreamfall, have just started Riven and Myst 3:Exile; still playing Spellforce, and was planning on starting Aura I this weekend. [smiley=hair_pull.gif] [smiley=zombie.gif] [smiley=silly.gif] [smiley=hyper.gif] [smiley=jumping.gif]
Plus got the following in unplayed pile:
Agon x 1st 3 episodes
AC: Evil under the Sun
The Dig
Daemonica
Sacrifice
Broken Sword Sleeping Dragon
[smiley=sleeping.gif] [smiley=sleeping.gif] [smiley=sleeping.gif]
EDIT: *Just posted this when abovementioned package arrived
So now what do I do? :'( :'( [smiley=cry.gif]
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| 5 JUN 2008 at 12:28pm |
CarolineJA+ Overseer
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Status : Offline | Now look here Traveler. You simply won't be doing Riven justice if you hurry through it playing it in tandem with Exile. Put Myst 3 on the pile and make it wait. Enjoy the immense beauty of Riven.
You really, really need to slow the pace down a bit. It's not a race.
And keep Aura for a little while. If you really must play more than one game at a time why not play one AG and one of the others that you like? That way you get a nice variety. If you gobble up all the really great AGs in one simultaneous rush you won't properly enjoy them; you won't remember them; and you'll never get to play them for the first time ever again so you'll have missed your best experience of them.
Okay. I've told you off. I've given you the best advice.
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| 5 JUN 2008 at 12:51pm |
Mr Innocent.Journeyman
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Status : Offline | Don't listen to Caroline, she'll obviously never know the joy of starting up her PC and [s]waste[/s] invest half an hour on deciding which of the 50 game shortcuts to double click .
Since we have long established that our gaming habits are almost identical, take my advise: You do seem to have bitten a bit more that anyone can chew. I at least try not to have too many similar games going at once, just as Caroline says, Riven, Myst III and Aura at the same time are too much. I just started Mass Effect myself (just entered Citadel station) that should occupy us for 30 hours more or less. As for the adventures, I suggest starting with Dracula 1 and Syberia 1, if only because they don't last long, perfect for shortening the "unplayed" pile a bit.
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| 5 JUN 2008 at 1:00pm |
| Deleted User | Yes, Caroline. Trav meekly trots off to go and play Riven (and ME).
*whisper* {Nik2008ofs, don't tell her about Syberia and Dracula, ok? } [smiley=devil_smiley_grintail.gif]
Oh, and nik, won'tcha come chat on the RPG topic a bit later? See ya there! (Uh, but later though, much, much later)
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| 5 JUN 2008 at 1:10pm |
avatar_58Private Detective
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Status : Online | Right now I'm playing Mass Effect, I just finished Tunguska. When my package arrives I'll probably start Perry Rhodan.
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| 5 JUN 2008 at 3:09pm |
JanuaryIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | Trying to finsh Myst (10th Anniversary edition). I put a help out in the other section.
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| 5 JUN 2008 at 5:10pm |
pavel4444Space Cadet
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By TheTraveler (5 JUN 2008 11:56am)
I've decided to give up on and uninstall Egypt 3 and Anacapri: The Dream, as I'm simply being bombarded by more exciting games.
I've just installed my pre-ordered copy of Mass-Effect that I went to pick up this morning, and as we speak, I'm awaiting a delivery of the following package:
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1 x ARXEL TRIBE SECRETS OF ALAMUT
1 x ARXEL TRIBE LEGEND OF THE PROPHET AND THE ASSASSIN
1 x Microids: Dracula 1 & 2
1 x Microids: Syberia 1 & 2
1 x Legend of Lotus Spring (Jewel Case)
...and if that shouldn't already be overwhelming enough; I'm still trying to get through Dreamfall, have just started Riven and Myst 3:Exile; still playing Spellforce, and was planning on starting Aura I this weekend. [smiley=hair_pull.gif] [smiley=zombie.gif] [smiley=silly.gif] [smiley=hyper.gif] [smiley=jumping.gif]
Plus got the following in unplayed pile:
Agon x 1st 3 episodes
AC: Evil under the Sun
The Dig
Daemonica
Sacrifice
Broken Sword Sleeping Dragon
[smiley=sleeping.gif] [smiley=sleeping.gif] [smiley=sleeping.gif]
EDIT: *Just posted this when abovementioned package arrived
So now what do I do? :'( :'( [smiley=cry.gif]
thanks a LOT now I have like 5 more games on my growing list of games to get/play. And my list is several times bigger than yours it seems.
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| 5 JUN 2008 at 8:34pm |
JKingSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | I am torn as to what to play next, as I recently received Sanitarium and Post Mortem from TheTraveler and Sentinel: Descendants in Time and The Omega Stone from Dreamcatcher (the latter two just today).
Sadly, Sanitarium doesn't work on my machine. I'm beginning to suspect the trouble lies with my sound drivers (I have experienced trouble with games over my sound hardware before), but I'm so discouraged that I can't be bothered to investigate further at present.
Another negative, this time with Sentinel, is that the avatar seriously does not know how to pronounce "dormeuse"; since French is my mother tongue and he refers to the sentinel by this name often, it is grating on my nerves to no end ("Her name is not 'door-mooz', you twit!". I shan't let this discourage me unduly, however.
So, this begs the question: What shall I play next?
You can't kill someone in a studio.
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| 5 JUN 2008 at 8:50pm |
IviniaGuild Master
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Status : Offline | The Omega Stone is probably the easiest of the 4. I wasn't too crazy about it, mainly because of how some problems are solved which require the destruction of ancient artifacts. :-? It just seemed a bit radical in it's solutions.
Post Mortem... I need to load that one up and play it. For some reason I quit that one an hour into it.
Sentinel, is that the one from the Schizm developers? Can't remember off hand. If so, they tend to be a bit on the difficult side.
Sanitarium is by far the one I liked best...ummm, too bad you can't run it! :-/
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| 5 JUN 2008 at 9:59pm |
AndromusGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By TheTraveler (5 JUN 2008 1:00pm)
Trav meekly trots off to go and play Riven (and ME).
Good choice. Riven is such a gem of a game, it really deserves to be the only adventure game clamoring for your attention right now.
Originally Posted By JKing (5 JUN 2008 8:34pm)
I am torn as to what to play next, as I recently received Sanitarium and Post Mortem from TheTraveler and Sentinel: Descendants in Time and The Omega Stone from Dreamcatcher (the latter two just today).
Sadly, Sanitarium doesn't work on my machine. I'm beginning to suspect the trouble lies with my sound drivers (I have experienced trouble with games over my sound hardware before), but I'm so discouraged that I can't be bothered to investigate further at present.
Another negative, this time with Sentinel, is that the avatar seriously does not know how to pronounce "dormeuse"; since French is my mother tongue and he refers to the sentinel by this name often, it is grating on my nerves to no end ("Her name is not 'door-mooz', you twit!". I shan't let this discourage me unduly, however.
So, this begs the question: What shall I play next?
It's a shame Sanitarium doesn't work for you; it's a classic, and the game I was going to recommend you try first. Post Mortem I found to be so-so. It had some interesting ideas in branching gameplay, just not very well executed. I haven't played the others yet, but Sentinel generally gets good marks from puzzle lovers, while The Omega Stone does not. A lot of people who enjoyed Riddle of the Sphinx felt The Omega Stone was a letdown as a sequel. (Which is why I haven't got around to it yet myself.)
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| 6 JUN 2008 at 11:24pm |
IviniaGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Just finished Dracula Origin last night...err, more like 5am this morning. OverClocked remains in limbo. : ND: Danger By Design hasn't quite got me very excited to start.
Might have to revisit some of the older ones I never finished, like TLJ, Syberia, Myst (insert any number here), or maybe I should read up on some of those Sir Dave articles from Adventure Lantern and enjoy a blast from the past like Kyrandia, Shannara, DeathGate, or ... too many choices. My brain is starting to hurt.
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| 7 JUN 2008 at 2:40am |
CarolineJA+ Overseer
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If you're going to attempt the Myst series again, why not do what I have embarked upon and play them in order. I've just done RealMyst which was a tad different from the original and I was surprised how much fun it was and how much easier it was 2nd time around. Considering how quickly you get through games you should catch me up and overtake me somewhere around Sunday afternoon.....
At least you can then join in the [s]endless[/s], [s]interminable[/s] repeated conversations we keep having about the series.
How can I bully you into enjoying these games? :-*
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| 7 JUN 2008 at 4:32am |
JKingSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Caroline (7 JUN 2008 2:40am)
How can I bully you into enjoying these games? :-*
Whatever the cost, count me in! These poor lost souls simply must be helped to see the light. Indeed, there are many faces to divinity, but chief among them, since the dawn of time (in a relative sense), is Riven. Its depth, its breadth, its rugged beauty and calming serenity... All these facets and those left unsaid, these things are all that an adventurer needs to find lasting inner peace. Riven, the very definition of perfection. Yea, look, but with humble reverence, lest your mundane human eyes are struck blind by its singular brilliance.
You can't kill someone in a studio.
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| 7 JUN 2008 at 7:19am |
CarolineJA+ Overseer
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Status : Offline | Yeee haaawww!!!..... the Myst Deputy is back in town and riding his poetic urges to the max....
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| 7 JUN 2008 at 1:58pm |
IviniaGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Caroline (7 JUN 2008 2:40am)
Considering how quickly you get through games you should catch me up and overtake me somewhere around Sunday afternoon.....
It depends on the game. With inventory driven ones, I can go pretty quickly. Same with relatively simple logic based games. When it comes to games with elaborate logic puzzles with no indication as to what you need to do, then I do struggle a bit. The biggest danger is getting bored with it, in which case I'll give up entirely and start a new one or loose patience and hit a walkthrough.
Hmmm, such support for playing Myst! Perhaps we should start a Myst playthrough thread and everyone can start playing the game again. HOWEVER! (and this is my pet peeve with the hints and tips section) when asking for a 'nudge' or a 'clue', can we actually give a nudge or a clue and not the full solution? Something like, "Look closely at the design at the top, notice anything?" is much better than "Click the 3rd button to the left, then the 4th button at the bottom, ...etc."
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| 7 JUN 2008 at 2:28pm |
JKingSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Ivinia (7 JUN 2008 1:58pm)
HOWEVER! (and this is my pet peeve with the hints and tips section) when asking for a 'nudge' or a 'clue', can we actually give a nudge or a clue and not the full solution? Something like, "Look closely at the design at the top, notice anything?" is much better than "Click the 3rd button to the left, then the 4th button at the bottom, ...etc."
I entirely agree, sir! Indeed, for the record my sole contribution to that forum replying to a request for a hint was rather of the nudge variety (well, maybe more of a friendly shove...), I should think, and personally I would not do otherwise.
Getting back to Myst, though, do play them!
The original is really quite elementary in retrospect. Ninety per cent of the game is simple observation.
You can't kill someone in a studio.
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| 7 JUN 2008 at 3:04pm |
CarolineJA+ Overseer
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You have played so many games now that I think, like JKing, that you will find it rather basic. The puzzles do indeed involve simple observation and the clues are pretty close by and fairly obvious.
Frankly, I don't think your credentials are complete without having played these games..... [smiley=whistle.gif]
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| 7 JUN 2008 at 3:09pm |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By Ivinia (7 JUN 2008 1:58pm)
HOWEVER! (and this is my pet peeve with the hints and tips section) when asking for a 'nudge' or a 'clue', can we actually give a nudge or a clue and not the full solution? Something like, "Look closely at the design at the top, notice anything?" is much better than "Click the 3rd button to the left, then the 4th button at the bottom, ...etc."
QFT.
Exactly why I prefer a 'hints' system to a walkthrough.
I've finally decided to go with doing Syberia and ME this weekend, though ME is already taking a back seat; as Syberia truly seems to be engaging....
I have made a solemn promise to continue with Riven during the week. [smiley=angel.gif]
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| 7 JUN 2008 at 4:00pm |
JanuaryIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By JKing (7 JUN 2008 2:28pm)
Originally Posted By Ivinia (7 JUN 2008 1:58pm)
HOWEVER! (and this is my pet peeve with the hints and tips section) when asking for a 'nudge' or a 'clue', can we actually give a nudge or a clue and not the full solution? Something like, "Look closely at the design at the top, notice anything?" is much better than "Click the 3rd button to the left, then the 4th button at the bottom, ...etc."
I entirely agree, sir! Indeed, for the record my sole contribution to that forum replying to a request for a hint was rather of the nudge variety (well, maybe more of a friendly shove...), I should think, and personally I would not do otherwise.
Getting back to Myst, though, do play them!
The original is really quite elementary in retrospect. Ninety per cent of the game is simple observation.
Having just completing Myst; starting with the original for Windows 95, then having to buy the 10th Anniversary game, to finish (too many computer mishaps with W95 version on Vista)-- I now also have Riven and Exile as they comes with the 3 game pack.
I started Myst originally in the 90's and didn't get to finish it, never getting to any of the Ages at all, just stayed on the surface. I didn't know about Online Forums, if there was any. And computers intimidated me in general, with no knowledge whatsoever of much of anything like that. My brother had played Myst, because he also was one of those Dungeons and Dragons, board game role play folk from a lonnnnnnnnnnnnng time ago-- but I didn't ask him. Only when I got to Amber.
Gosh, I'm rambling---
My point is, I really like Myst. It is a beautiful place to have a game, and the story is very engaging. Having played the latest before Myst (Portal), I found Myst harder than Portal. And Myst was far better the game, better graphics, colors, story line, and the best part...you couldn't die. Then at the very end, meeting -you know who--. (writer) I wanted the game to keep on going My favorite world was the Maritime ship, and favorite music was sitting in the Space Chair.
I would do a go through with other people for Myst and Riven, etc.
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| 7 JUN 2008 at 4:06pm |
JKingSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Clarinda (7 JUN 2008 3:59pm)
Then at the very end, meeting -you know who--. (writer) I wanted the game to keep on going
Ah, but it does! Riven is a direct continuation!
You can't kill someone in a studio.
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| 8 JUN 2008 at 1:30am |
CarolineJA+ Overseer
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Status : Offline | This is so exciting - people playing Myst and Riven for the very first time - and loving it.
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| 9 JUN 2008 at 4:17pm |
avatar_58Private Detective
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Status : Online | I started Perry Rhodan, but probably shouldn't have. Mass Effect's sci-fi is stealing it's thunder and my time. Probably should have saved it for later. Ah well.
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