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| 27 NOV 2007 at 4:12pm |
AyaGrand Inquisitor
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Status : Offline | played a preview version some time ago and i liked it... don't know if i would steal it but i am certainly looking forward to playing the final thing!
You have gotten the attention of the mysterious lady. She turns to face you. Her face is devoid of any flesh. You are frozen with horror as she begins ripping your body into a bloody mess.
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| 27 NOV 2007 at 4:15pm |
FABLEIntergalactic Janitor
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Joined: 27 NOV 2007
Status : Online | Hi Anya,
Maybe an email to G2 or MAJESTIC will get you a review copy liek GAMEBOOMERS so you too can review for JA?
Just a thought.
Kind Regards&&&&FABLE
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| 27 NOV 2007 at 4:18pm |
AyaGrand Inquisitor
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By FABLE (27 NOV 2007 4:15pm)
Hi Anya,
Maybe an email to G2 or MAJESTIC will get you a review copy liek GAMEBOOMERS so you too can review for JA?
Just a thought.
anya?!
i was actually expecting a review copy several weeks ago... don't know what happened... now i will not be able to play any games for review purposes during the next 4 weeks so i don't know what's gonna happen... review or not though, i will definately play the game as soon as i lay my hands on it
You have gotten the attention of the mysterious lady. She turns to face you. Her face is devoid of any flesh. You are frozen with horror as she begins ripping your body into a bloody mess.
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| 27 NOV 2007 at 4:21pm |
FABLEIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | sorry Aya
That is a pity.....................................I am sure all JA fans would love a review of this great game.
Kind Regards&&&&FABLE
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| 27 NOV 2007 at 4:26pm |
AyaGrand Inquisitor
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By FABLE (27 NOV 2007 4:21pm)
sorry Aya
That is a pity.....................................I am sure all JA fans would love a review of this great game.
oh there will be a review for sure, but probably by someone else
You have gotten the attention of the mysterious lady. She turns to face you. Her face is devoid of any flesh. You are frozen with horror as she begins ripping your body into a bloody mess.
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| 28 NOV 2007 at 3:02am |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By FABLE (27 NOV 2007 2:13pm)
Hi, Just thought I would...
Welcome to the JA+ Forum community!
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| 10 DEC 2007 at 3:16pm |
FABLEIntergalactic Janitor
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Joined: 27 NOV 2007
Status : Online | Hi,
The UK release has been put back until Feb 2008 but you can buy it from these web stores.
English UK PC DVDROM version -
Noctalis.Com
http://shop.noctalis.com/codex.cgi?seekme=LIMBO&seekde=checked
TechPortal
http://search.stores.ebay.co.uk/tech-portal_limbo_W0QQfciZQ2d1QQfclZ4QQfsnZtechQ2dportalQQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQsaselZ497397853QQsofpZ0
Hope this helps some of you play this superb adventure! 8-)
Kind Regards&&&&FABLE
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| 10 DEC 2007 at 8:23pm |
IviniaGuild Master
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Location: US
Status : Offline | Ummm, Fable? Please tell me you aren't trying to pull the same fiasco on JA that you pulled on GB:
http://www.gameboomers.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=233736&fpart=5
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| 10 DEC 2007 at 8:34pm |
| Deleted User | Ummm, Fable? Please tell me you aren't trying to pull the same fiasco on JA that you pulled on GB: fiasco; or storm in a teapot blown up into a hurricane ?? [smiley=silly.gif] [smiley=silly.gif]
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| 11 DEC 2007 at 1:39am |
challis3Intergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | I think a developer disguising themselves as a consumer with no connection to the game is pretty duplicitous.
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| 11 DEC 2007 at 2:13am |
SirDaveGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Seems to have been a lot of silliness going on: FABLE apparently passing himself off as a regular player (here & at Gameboomers) when he is actually one of the creators and raking Inferno (at Gameboomers) over the coals (she 'let him down' etc.) due to alleged this & that.
But what is so crazy about all this is that it is a case of a small developer shooting itself in the foot by antagonizing the very people that have credibility in the AG community and who can help sell your game! What is even more sad and counterproductive about this is that Limbo of the Lost may actually be a pretty good game- Inferno seems to think so anyway. Go figure!
Seems to me that a major mea culpa is in order.
The future ain't what it used to be!
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| 11 DEC 2007 at 2:23am |
| Deleted User | Just the same... highly exaggerated.
AFAIK, Inferno is a very nice good lady... but according to the enormous fuss & reaction, anybody'd think the guy raped her... or at least assaulted her!! [smiley=devil_smiley_grintail.gif] [smiley=skull_laugh.gif]
That the project leader was foolish &/or indiscreet ... no argument!!
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| 11 DEC 2007 at 5:59am |
Lady KestrelGuild Master
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Status : Offline | I would have been very angry if it happened to me, Len, and I don't think you would have sat calmly by if it happened to you.
"Where is the fountain that throws up these flowers in a ceaseless outbreak of ecstasy?"
-Rabindranath Tagore
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| 11 DEC 2007 at 9:58am |
FABLEIntergalactic Janitor
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Joined: 27 NOV 2007
Status : Online | Hi,
My Dad (Steve Bovis - MSTUDIOS) creator of the game has already sent the moderator (Becky) a personal email regarding all this. I (Laura) posted this and my forum name is FABLE all he did was use it to send some posts nothing more. A lynch mob is not needed!!
I have played the game and sent posts regarding how I feel about it. Some people just have very suspicious minds and sharper tongues!!
Kind Regards&&&&FABLE
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| 11 DEC 2007 at 11:03am |
IviniaGuild Master
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Location: US
Status : Offline | *If* that is the case, then accept my apologies.
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| 11 DEC 2007 at 11:14am |
FABLEIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | Apology accepted
Hopefully Becky will post the email on Gameboomers and all this mess will be sorted out, as my Dad is very nice person and I love him very much, :-* even though he spends too much time working hahahahahahaha
Kind Regards&&&&FABLE
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| 11 DEC 2007 at 11:22am |
IviniaGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By FABLE (11 DEC 2007 11:14am)
even though he spends too much time working hahahahahahaha
LOL, it comes with the territory! Speaking of working too much, I wonder where Alkis has been... [smiley=detective.gif]
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| 11 DEC 2007 at 5:12pm |
challis3Intergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | Before anyone apologizes.....
Funny how when confronted at GBers about using the same ip address, your "dad" never mentioned that you were his daughter. He said that FABLE was a beta tester and referred to you as a HIM.
I feel my chain getting yanked again.
Shows how much he learned after all the ado and dressing down by his fellow MS Studio developers.
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| 11 DEC 2007 at 5:57pm |
SirDaveGuild Master
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Location: US
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By FABLE (11 DEC 2007 9:57am)
Hi,
My Dad (Steve Bovis - MSTUDIOS) creator of the game has already sent the moderator (Becky) a personal email regarding all this. I (Laura) posted this and my forum name is FABLE all he did was use it to send some posts nothing more. A lynch mob is not needed!!
I have played the game and sent posts regarding how I feel about it. Some people just have very suspicious minds and sharper tongues!!
[Responding to Ivinia] ...Apology accepted
Apology accepted? Your posts here and at Gameboomers, by any measure, were both misleading and an attempt to pass off a personna that you are not. Minds were suspicious for good reason; tongues were sharp for good reason. You are creating a parallel universe here where the perpetrator becomes the victim. All of this falls particularly flat because the Gameboomers forum has a history of having some of the nicest, most patient and forgiving people on it, almost to a fault. You have to work pretty hard to rile them up...and they were pretty riled up at one point.
Given your 'outing', I would have expected an overall apology from you. That's all that is necessary. Your motives appear to have been to help your father's project- good motives, bad implementation. If Limbo of the Lost is a good game, then your father's project will likely go forward and succeed and I hope it will, all of this foolishness of youth notwithstanding.
The future ain't what it used to be!
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| 11 DEC 2007 at 6:54pm |
| Deleted User | ~~ Lady Kestrel ~~ ... I would have been very angry if it happened to me, Len, and I don't think you would have sat calmly by if it happened to you.
That depends. I might be annoyed or I might be angry but I don’t think it’s up to somebody else to ascribe MY personal feelings or reactions to any given situation.
Apart from anything else, it depends upon the circumstances which in this case seem to me to be very unclear & blurred.
As far as I can make out there seemed to be two different accusations on that Forum repeated over & over more than 50 times. One member dared to call it mob rule. I don’t think that that was well received on said Forum, and the post by Fable above calls it lynch :- Many called upon the members of that Site not to purchase the game and many agreed that they wouldn’t.
(1) One fairly vitriolic accusation was that the Project leader of the game LotL insulted Infernoj13usa on the Forum.
(2) The other is that he obfuscated by posting under two different names.
With regard to (2): According to abovementioned Fable this was not so. Not that in any case it’s a crime AFAIK to assume a different nickname. On JA+, over several years, I’ve seen quite a number of folk post under different nicks for a variety of reasons and very few use their real names anyway (I seem to be one of the minority everywhere !), and nobody seems to kick up an enormous fuss about it.
Concerning (1) On reading the posts carefully I didn’t see that anybody INSULTED Infernoj13usa. Nobody called her a cow or a bitch or a liar or a crook or even a fool etc.
Yes, she was reprimanded quite politely and asked to remove the spoilers she had posted. This may have been a fair request or not.
However, the exact story seems to be unclear except to the people directly concerned.
The criminal accused, maintains that Infernoj13usa was given very great help in playing through the game with the objective of writing an exclusive Review.
He further maintains that she was requested (and agreed) not to write a walkthrough until the Review was posted at least. Whether this mutual agreement included not posting Hints & Spoilers on the Hints Forum is unclear & unknown.
If his claim is true or even partially true, whether acceptable practice or no, then there should have been no grounds for the almost mass hysteria which erupted.
P.S. ~~ Challis3 ~~ ...
You are a veteran member of GameBoomers... is it terribly important exactly HOW it was reported?
IMHO, the only substantial question is, was Infernoj13usa insulted or just rebuked... and if so why did she not simply post that she didn't interpret that her apparent promise not to write a walkthrough before posting the review implied also that she was 'forbidden' to post hints & spoilers.
Why the whole kafuffle ??
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| 11 DEC 2007 at 7:22pm |
Agustín CordesGuild Master
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Location: AR, Buenos Aires
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By LenG (11 DEC 2007 2:23am)
Just the same... highly exaggerated.
AFAIK, Inferno is a very nice good lady... but according to the enormous fuss & reaction, anybody'd think the guy raped her... or at least assaulted her!! [smiley=devil_smiley_grintail.gif] [smiley=skull_laugh.gif]
LOL Len, you're incorrigible
Have any of you actually noticed the age of FABLE? Her story is rather believable... this whole ordeal might be blowing out of proportions.
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| 11 DEC 2007 at 7:58pm |
SirDaveGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Okay, after reading the above, I decided to go back and read every single word of the posts at GB and here that led to this 'fiasco'. After doing so, I can hardly believe that anyone would think this is all just a misunderstanding. The only reason it got out of hand was that the person who started it all didn't simply step forward and apologize before things got out of hand. Here are some of the comments that accelerated the situation. These and some that preceded it constituted nothing less than a public dressing down of Inferno. Comments that, given the apparent relationship between them in working on the game together, should have taken place by PM:
If I had known she was going to do this with the info I would not of helped her! It took me weeks to complete the game, it took her only days, do you see my point?
This I think is as bad as the developers themselves giving her a full solution and then her using it on the forum to help others, the knowledge was not gained by herself and noone spoilt it for her or me, that's the whole enjoyment and point of adventure games.....is it not?
I wonder what MSTUDIOS would think......care to comment MSTUDIOS??
Knowledge is best earned by oneself, rather than given away and obtained without effort.
I just feel betrayed by INFERNO after we both agreed not to do any spoilers or walkthroughs, then she posts the spoilers.
INFERNO has let me down, in return for hours of helping her to complete the game ready for the review.
Thanks INFERNO.
All of these comments and those that led up to it created the picture of a regular AG player enthralled with the game and who has no connection with MSTUDIOs: eg. '...care to comment MSTUDIOS?? And then there is the attempt to put forward a 'life object lesson': Knowledge is best earned by oneself, rather than given away and obtained without effort. while engaging in what was a deception. Not to mention the facetious and snide 'Thanks INFERNO'. Inferno's response to this, to her credit, was moderate and without vitriol considering... Ole SirDave wouldn't have been as forgiving. The father and game creator/developer Steve Bovis to his credit did finally apologize, FABLE did not. Instead what I see here is that because of the surprising perspective of a few posters above, FABLE now thinks she is the one that should receive an apology. It's the rewriting of history that is driving me up the wall; as far as I am concerned, all the rest of it is done with and can be put to bed. And again, this seems to be an AG worth taking a look at.
The future ain't what it used to be!
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| 11 DEC 2007 at 8:53pm |
Terry PenrodGrand Inquisitor
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Location: US, Texas
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Out of curiosity, I read that entire thread at GB yesterday and concluded that it was one of the silliest wastes of my time ever. It read like a really bad soap opera played out by a bunch of five-year-old drama queens. Moreover, I couldn't care less about a single thing written in that thread other than a few vague references to the actual game, which I will happily judge on its own merits.
Cheers, Terry
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| 11 DEC 2007 at 8:55pm |
challis3Intergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | Len- I am unsure of your exact question to me. How what was reported?
I did not post at all at gameboomers as I didn't feel the need.
My post here is to point out that FABLE is NOT the daughter of Steve.
Even according to Steve, FABLE is a MALE beta tester.
My point is that whether you feel the original incident was overblown or not- this FABLE person is now posting untruths at JA.
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