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| 1 OCT 2007 at 7:02pm |
papillonSorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Online | ... I really don't understand this complaint. Lower barrier to entry means more INNOVATIVE games can get on the system, instead of just "Look, another FPS!" that they're sure will sell a million copies. If you're worried about buying a game and having it turn out to be crap, how about READING REVIEWS before plonking down your money? Or renting the game? Or asking a friend about the game?
Sony and Microsoft also make sure that imitaters of other popular games don't appear either.
While this may not be what you meant, this sounds suspiciously like a ps3 fanboy saying "The reason there aren't many games for the ps3 is that Sony makes sure each one is fabulous and special! I *like* not having any new games to play! One game a year is fine and dandy!"
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| 1 OCT 2007 at 7:49pm |
Lucien21Guild Master
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Status : Offline | Man,
Sony has the biggest mountain of toss on it's systems ever. The PS2 has some classic games, but a HUGE pile of licensed and unimaginative bollocks. Microsoft is the same to a smaller extent.
Nintendo has consistantly provided the most innovative and fun games of any system (3rd party titles are a different matter).
Of course like all the other systems it has it's fare share of manure.
Dear Diary, My teenage angst bullsh*t now has a bodycount.
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| 1 OCT 2007 at 8:19pm |
Terry PenrodGrand Inquisitor
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Even proprietary game systems have a semi-free market for third party titles.
So what if a bunch of second-rate developers want to invest their time / money and try to sell their second-rate games on consoles as well as handhelds, PCs and Macs?
Avoiding them couldn't be simpler. Just pay attention to reviews / user ratings and be a discerning buyer.
Cheers, Terry
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| 7 NOV 2007 at 4:56am |
MagoozelleIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | I have a Nintendo Wii and I really like it. I read reviews, watch gameplay movies, and basically do everything I can to make sure it will be a good purchase before I actually spend money. We have:
Dewy's Adventure
Elebits
Excite Truck
Rayman Raving Rabbids
Wii Sports
My husband and I share most of the games, but Dewy's Adventure and Rayman and definitely "mine". My husband has:
Call of Duty 3
Rampage: Total Destruction
He likes Call of Duty but not Rampage; then again, he just buys what looks good. I want to get Super Mario Galaxy sometime as that game looks to be superb (please not another Super Mario Sunshine) as well as the new adventure game Zack & Wiki. Metroid Prime 3 looks ok as well, but I did not like the 2 on the Gamecube so we skipped buying it until it gets cheaper.
So I think it really depends. For us, there is nothing on the PS3 and very little on the 360 that is of interest. True, there is a lot of crap out there, but then again what few "true" games the Wii has are excellent.
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| 11 NOV 2007 at 6:06am |
SusanGuild Master
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Status : Offline | I get a kick out of the fact that titles are still coming out for series that began on the original Nintendo 20 years ago ...
- Excite Bike
- Metroid
- Metal Gear
- Mega Man
- Mario anything
Although, one could say the same thing about the Final Fantasy series, which started out for Nintendo and made it's way to Sony's Playstation!
I miss my Bubba: 1986 - 2006.
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| 11 NOV 2007 at 6:24am |
chronotigger65Journeyman
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Status : Offline | Getting the Wii is something I look forward to getting in the future. Hopefully all the games they have for download right now will be there when I get it. The games they got now are good. But couldn't they release the games that never saw the light of day in the U.S. or elsewhere? Games like Castlevania Rondo of Blood, Dragon Quest 5 and 6, Terranigma, Seiken Densetsu 3 and the original Star Ocean. CV ROB has been released on the PSP recently but it would be nice to play it on a non-portable system.)
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| 11 NOV 2007 at 3:44pm |
The WolfboySorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Online | The DS has quite a nice number of good games for it. And they're not big-name games, so you can usually pick them up quite cheap. Twin Memories, Hotel Dusk, Settlers, the Phoenix Wright games, just to name a few.
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| 13 NOV 2007 at 12:34am |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By chronotigger65 (1 OCT 2007 4:50pm)
Has it ever accured to you that Nintendo has a lot more crappy games released for their game systems? The Game Boy, Game Boy Advance and now the DS and Wii have a wide range of shovelware on game shelves and even on the used game game shelves of used game stores. I read an article in Electronic Gaming Monthly explaining why this is.
Nintendo, unlike Sony and Microsoft, don't have what's call a screening process for evaluating games. Sony and Microsoft make sure that no crappy games end up on their systems. Not to say that they do have bad games, but not to the exstent of Nintendo like say Chicken Shoot on the Wii.
Sony and Microsoft also make sure that imitaters of other popular games don't appear either. Can't say the same thing for Nintendo. I remember when Pokemon was released on the Game Boy Color that tons of imitators appeared involving similar themes of the game they copied. The same can be said for WarioWare which introduced the 'microgame." Today the same thing is happening today as with the Pokemon copying thing.
It seems that the thing is not going to stop any time soon. The amount of crap on the Wii and DS is making Nintendo very rich. I don't think even hearing the protests of gamers in disgust of the games will make Nintendo change their ways.
You´re totally insane man!
The best titles ever have come from not anywhere, but NINTENDO!
Not only they are risponsable for the incredible evolution videogames have had, thanks to the world wide success of NES,--- They are the ones that made portable devices serious consoles, and what´s more: the best selling videogames of all time are from nowhere else but NINTENDO man!.
How can you come up with something like that?
Can you really deny Mario? Donkey Kong? Pokemon? Kirby?
Think about the contribution Nintendo has made to video games before posting something like that!
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| 29 NOV 2007 at 12:55am |
RaySorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Offline | Boy, Chrono, I just don't think I could possibly disagree with you more!
I never thought I'd like handheld gaming. I'm too old and blind. But you know what pushed me to it? The enormous amount of incredible CONTENT that the Game Boy had!
First of all, it had innumerable ports of older classics, so I could go back and play Zelda games and Dragon Quest games! I can play early Final Fantasy games!
Then as the years went on, it became a superb platform for original RPGs.
It was on handhelds that I discovered perhaps my favorite non-adventure genre: Tactical RPGs. Can't tell you the number of happy hours I've lost playing Fire Emblem, Final Fantasy Tactics Advance, Riviera, Tactics Ogre, etc.
Regarding the other Nintendo Consoles.
N64: Let us please remember that it was Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time which received one of only TWO perfect scores that Gamespot EVER gave. Plus it was the home to the first successful console shooters (Perfect Dark and Goldeneye) and the game that "made 3D matter," Mario 64.
On to the GameCube. It's true that Nintendo didn't have the oomph during that particular hardware cycle to have a ton of great proprietary titles, but it did have some that knocked it out of the park: Metroid Prime and Resident Evil 4 for example.
And it's kicking serious ass with the Wii. The new Mario and Zelda games got great reviews. I'm honestly puzzled by your complaint. But to each his own!
Remember, procrastinate now. Don't put it off!!
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| 29 NOV 2007 at 1:21am |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By Ray (29 NOV 2007 12:55am)
Boy, Chrono, I just don't think I could possibly disagree with you more!
I never thought I'd like handheld gaming. I'm too old and blind. But you know what pushed me to it? The enormous amount of incredible CONTENT that the Game Boy had!
First of all, it had innumerable ports of older classics, so I could go back and play Zelda games and Dragon Quest games! I can play early Final Fantasy games!
Then as the years went on, it became a superb platform for original RPGs.
It was on handhelds that I discovered perhaps my favorite non-adventure genre: Tactical RPGs. Can't tell you the number of happy hours I've lost playing Fire Emblem, Final Fantasy Tactics Advance, Riviera, Tactics Ogre, etc.
Regarding the other Nintendo Consoles.
N64: Let us please remember that it was Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time which received one of only TWO perfect scores that Gamespot EVER gave. Plus it was the home to the first successful console shooters (Perfect Dark and Goldeneye) and the game that "made 3D matter," Mario 64.
On to the GameCube. It's true that Nintendo didn't have the oomph during that particular hardware cycle to have a ton of great proprietary titles, but it did have some that knocked it out of the park: Metroid Prime and Resident Evil 4 for example.
And it's kicking serious ass with the Wii. The new Mario and Zelda games got great reviews. I'm honestly puzzled by your complaint. But to each his own!
Not to mention Pokemon Battle Revolutions along with diamond and pearl!!!
EXCELLENT RPGs with stunning graphics and addictive gameplay!
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| 4 FEB 2008 at 6:04am |
RetrogamerIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Susan, the Office Goddess (11 NOV 2007 6:06am)
I get a kick out of the fact that titles are still coming out for series that began on the original Nintendo 20 years ago ...
- Excite Bike
- Metroid
- Metal Gear
- Mega Man
- Mario anything
Although, one could say the same thing about the Final Fantasy series, which started out for Nintendo and made it's way to Sony's Playstation!
Same with Metal Gear and Mega Man. Course, there are still FF and Mega Man games for the DS, and there was a Metal Gear Solid remake for the GameCube.
The Metal Gear, Mega Man, Final Fantasy series are 21 years old this year, Metroid is 22, ExciteBike is 24, and Mario is 25 (27 if you count Donkey Kong).
We cannot, of course, forget Zelda. Phantom Hourglass came out this past year to rave reviews, 21 years after the original changed the face of gaming on the NES.
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| 4 FEB 2008 at 6:26am |
RetrogamerIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Ray (29 NOV 2007 12:55am)
N64: Let us please remember that it was Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time which received one of only TWO perfect scores that Gamespot EVER gave. Plus it was the home to the first successful console shooters (Perfect Dark and Goldeneye) and the game that "made 3D matter," Mario 64.
I just have to say that I hate that quote. Yes, in 1996, Mario 64 revolutionized platform gaming and proved that folks could go on console adventures in 3D, even though Alone in the Dark was released on the 3DO in 1994 (no one really cared about that ill-fated system). The truth is, 3D gaming was quite common by the time Mario 64 came around. Tekken had been out in the arcade since 1994, and had been in Playstation owners' hands since 1995. Sega's Virtua Fighter was in Arcades in 1993 and in homes on the Saturn by 1995. Virtua Racing was in arcades in 1992 and in homes on the 32X by 1994.
Heck, I remember playing full 3D fight simulators like Hellcats Over the Pacific on my LCIII back in 1991, but that was a computer, and God knows that 25mhz 68030-series Motorola processor was years ahead of console technology. :-/
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| 4 FEB 2008 at 11:49pm |
chronotigger65Journeyman
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Luigi Mamao (13 NOV 2007 12:34am)
Originally Posted By chronotigger65 (1 OCT 2007 4:50pm)
Has it ever accured to you that Nintendo has a lot more crappy games released for their game systems? The Game Boy, Game Boy Advance and now the DS and Wii have a wide range of shovelware on game shelves and even on the used game game shelves of used game stores. I read an article in Electronic Gaming Monthly explaining why this is.
Nintendo, unlike Sony and Microsoft, don't have what's call a screening process for evaluating games. Sony and Microsoft make sure that no crappy games end up on their systems. Not to say that they do have bad games, but not to the exstent of Nintendo like say Chicken Shoot on the Wii.
Sony and Microsoft also make sure that imitaters of other popular games don't appear either. Can't say the same thing for Nintendo. I remember when Pokemon was released on the Game Boy Color that tons of imitators appeared involving similar themes of the game they copied. The same can be said for WarioWare which introduced the 'microgame." Today the same thing is happening today as with the Pokemon copying thing.
It seems that the thing is not going to stop any time soon. The amount of crap on the Wii and DS is making Nintendo very rich. I don't think even hearing the protests of gamers in disgust of the games will make Nintendo change their ways.
You´re totally insane man!
The best titles ever have come from not anywhere, but NINTENDO!
Not only they are risponsable for the incredible evolution videogames have had, thanks to the world wide success of NES,--- They are the ones that made portable devices serious consoles, and what´s more: the best selling videogames of all time are from nowhere else but NINTENDO man!.
How can you come up with something like that?
Can you really deny Mario? Donkey Kong? Pokemon? Kirby?
Think about the contribution Nintendo has made to video games before posting something like that!
I'm not pointing the finger at Nintendo itself. I'm pointing the finger at the small companies that Nintendo allows to make and release crappy games. Usually the companies are small ones that buy the rights for things like TV shows, cartoons, movies and other forms of entertainment and turn them into games that are just lousy. Bigger companies like EA and Activision do the same thing but the games are of better quality. Look at the used game shelves of Game Boy Advance games at Gamestop and you'll understand.
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| 5 FEB 2008 at 12:49am |
Terry PenrodGrand Inquisitor
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Again Chronotigger, what difference does it make if third-party developers want to invest their time and money developing crappy games for any platform? Every console system has them as does the PC.
Same goes for hundreds of independent TV producers, film studios, print publishers and music studios that pump out a steady stream of derivative, second-rate garbage. Just don't buy it.
Cheers, Terry
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| 5 FEB 2008 at 12:16pm |
CarolineJA+ Overseer
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Status : Offline | I haven't played any of my sons' console games. They have the Nintendo, the PS2, the Wii and the DS systems. They love all their games. This xmas we gave them nothing but Wii and its games. And I've taught the little one how to buy games from ebay. He's just received Zelda phantom hourglass and is enraptured with it and keen to buy more games this way.
I keep suggesting they should be playing Myst or my other games but so far they're not biting.
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| 12 FEB 2008 at 6:18pm |
RaySorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Offline | Retro, I didn't say that Mario64 INVENTED 3-D gaming, I said it made it matter. It was a breakout hit; more importantly it moved an incredibly popular genre (2-D platforming) into the third dimention successfully.
Remember, procrastinate now. Don't put it off!!
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| 12 FEB 2008 at 11:19pm |
RetrogamerIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | Right, and I'm saying that 3-d gaming was important long before Mario64. I wasn't criticizing just what you said, but instead that idea that I hear so often. Mario was the first 3d platformer, yes, but platforming and adventuring would have moved into the 3d realm without it.
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| 14 FEB 2008 at 12:17am |
RaySorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Offline | Let's fight, Retro!! It's been too long since I've been in a good, soul-crushing, friendship-destroying, forum-threatening, bile-spewing, pointless online argument!!
Remember, procrastinate now. Don't put it off!!
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| 14 FEB 2008 at 1:51am |
RetrogamerIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | Good times.
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