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| 1 MAR 2007 at 6:27am |
Lucien21Guild Master
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Status : Offline | Already bought Season 1, bt this is grat news to get it out there on the shelves.
Find it a tad odd that JA got the exclusive seeing the relationship between adventuregamers and Telltale (i.e half their staff work for Telltale).
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| 1 MAR 2007 at 11:22am |
ShanyGuild Master
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Status : Online | For some reason I thought the season set will get a much earlier release...
At least TAC won't be changing any names in this case, right? Right? :-/
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| 1 MAR 2007 at 9:22pm |
KamisoriXSchattenjger
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Status : Online | I wonder if i get a cut when i buy the boxed version since i bought already the downloadable season1. well, at least i get a free CD as far as i know :-*
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| 1 MAR 2007 at 11:18pm |
Erwin_BrPrivate Detective
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By KamisoriX (1 MAR 2007 9:22pm)
I wonder if i get a cut when i buy the boxed version since i bought already the downloadable season1. well, at least i get a free CD as far as i know :-*
Maybe it's going to be the same thing. Maybe you'll receive the boxed version for free. (Except the shipping costs)
--Erwin
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| 1 MAR 2007 at 11:31pm |
Randy-JAJourneyman
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Find it a tad odd that JA got the exclusive seeing the relationship between adventuregamers and Telltale (i.e half their staff work for Telltale).
Yeah, you would think so huh
But according to Jackal at AG Forum there is no such thing as a news exclusive. Hmmm....sounds like someone is eating some sour grapes.
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| 1 MAR 2007 at 11:41pm |
AyaGrand Inquisitor
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Status : Offline | half of the adv gamers' staff work for telltale? i find that hard to believe, but if it's true, i am starting to wonder how credible their reviews of telltale's games are! : maybe ja should get ragnar to review dreamfall!
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| 2 MAR 2007 at 12:23am |
SirDaveGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Although I realize that logistically it would be difficult (since TAC had nothing to do with it in the beginning), if fair was fair, those who purchased the complete season would receive the boxed version. I'm not all that upset or anything and I will probably buy the boxed version as well (especially since it won't have any of that intrusive internet verification crap), but it would have been a nice gesture.
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| 2 MAR 2007 at 12:28am |
JackalIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Randy-JA (1 MAR 2007 11:30pm)
But according to Jackal at AG Forum there is no such thing as a news exclusive. Hmmm....sounds like someone is eating some sour grapes.
Randy, really. Is that not beneath you? Anyone who bothered reading my whole post and not only a convenient part of it would know I was addressing a point of information ownership raised right before that.
For those wondering, we do in fact have some Telltale employees on staff (though certainly nowhere near half), a fact we've been up front about from the beginning and appropriate steps taken to avoid any conflict of interest. But it's certainly true that no Telltale news is a surprise to us no matter where it's announced first.
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| 2 MAR 2007 at 1:01am |
Randy-JAJourneyman
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Status : Offline | I did read it, and it's still sour grapes. A simple, kudos to JA for the story would have worked. An explanation of what is and is not considered exclusive in your opinion makes it sour grapes. You have an 'exclusive' with Mike Levine on your front page - do you mean that your interview will be the only one in the entire world or is it the contents of that interview that are 'exclusive.' I'll jump ahead here and guess you'll say the contents.
Well, the contents of what was written about Sam n Max is exclusive also. I wrote it. It's not a press release. If it was a press release, it wouldn't be exclusive.
It's funny though, I remember when you guys at AG used to accuse JA of bias towards Dreamcatcher even though we have no one that works there. Now the shoe is on the other foot and you, of course, see no problem with it. Tsk, tsk.
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| 2 MAR 2007 at 2:12am |
MarkGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Randy-JA (2 MAR 2007 1:01am)
A simple, kudos to JA for the story would have worked.
Hear, hear. I read the Adventure Gamers Forum entry for this very early and was shocked and dismayed that The Powers That Be at AG didn't even want to acknowledge the fact that Just Adventure received and announced the great news about TAC picking up the Sam 'n' Max Season One boxset first.
Sorry, AG. When you snooze, you lose. Maybe you can get another, uh, exclusive soon. I'm sure Randy would graciously give Adventure Gamers a nod.
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| 2 MAR 2007 at 2:13am |
numbleIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | As far as I know, this is a leak, not official announcement news.
News media always tries to differentiate the two--(IE, "an anonymous source close to the President, informs us that," or "an industry insider reports that" Over at Telltale, their Public Relations basically confirms this, stating that "This wasn't supposed to have been announced yet" and addressing further speculation by reiterating that "this deal wasn't even supposed to be public yet."
The context of Jackal's comment at the AG forum was in response to somebody who believed that JA had somehow secured the exclusive rights to announce said deal (thus preventing AG from being allowed to announce the same), and Jackal basically said "there's no such thing as exclusive news," nothing is preventing AG from also announcing said news, not the least being some "exclusive right" that JA has.
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| 2 MAR 2007 at 2:22am |
JackalIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | No, sorry. Believe ulterior motives if you wish, but I was simply answering the implication immediately beforehand that we have no right to report the same news even if we wanted to. Needless to say, that is a falsehood that needed correcting, so I did. And frankly, the notion that I had sour grapes over anything our staff has direct inside knowledge of is pretty silly. I didn't offer kudos or comment of ANY kind on the actual information itself because I'm not prepared to comment on the validity of the news at this point (which I also said).
EDIT: Whoops, numble's post wasnt there before I started, so basically... what he said.
I'm really not interested in anything that happened between the sites before I started at AG. I'm not into oneupmanship, and really don't expect others to be, either.
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| 2 MAR 2007 at 7:12am |
Lucien21Guild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Aya (1 MAR 2007 11:41pm)
half of the adv gamers' staff work for telltale? i find that hard to believe, but if it's true, i am starting to wonder how credible their reviews of telltale's games are! : maybe ja should get ragnar to review dreamfall!
Well half was a jokey comment. I think there are 3 of them.
And none of them review the Telltale stuff.
I'm sure they show the same professionalism in their reviews that JA+ always has with TAC reviews even though they were costantly accused of bias.
I must admit to the disappointing attitude towards another adventuring site. These stupid mud slinging exercises accomplish nothing. As a member of both commuities I have defended this place in the past when people have slagged it off. Adventuregamers has also welcomed a few of our members when this pace disappeared for weeks.
I didn't have a problem with Randy posting the news. Fair dues to him, as a journalist receiving leaked news he has every rigt to post it. I just remarked that I was surprised at the leak.
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| 2 MAR 2007 at 7:19am |
Lucien21Guild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By SirDave (2 MAR 2007 12:23am)
Although I realize that logistically it would be difficult (since TAC had nothing to do with it in the beginning), if fair was fair, those who purchased the complete season would receive the boxed version. I'm not all that upset or anything and I will probably buy the boxed version as well (especially since it won't have any of that intrusive internet verification crap), but it would have been a nice gesture.
I believe when you purchased the season download you have the option of a disc version at the end of the season free of charge (apart from shipping).
P.s Season subscribers were given a nice surprise today with Episode 4 a week early.
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| 2 MAR 2007 at 3:57pm |
Randy-JAJourneyman
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Status : Offline | For the record, there was no leak either from Dreamcatcher or from Telltale - at least as far as I know.
Sometimes it is simply a matter of putting two and two together based on available information, rumors through the grapevine and the one that always gives it away, "We can't comment on that."
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| 2 MAR 2007 at 8:08pm |
SirDaveGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Lucien21 (2 MAR 2007 7:18am)
Originally Posted By SirDave (2 MAR 2007 12:23am)
Although I realize that logistically it would be difficult (since TAC had nothing to do with it in the beginning), if fair was fair, those who purchased the complete season would receive the boxed version. I'm not all that upset or anything and I will probably buy the boxed version as well (especially since it won't have any of that intrusive internet verification crap), but it would have been a nice gesture.
I believe when you purchased the season download you have the option of a disc version at the end of the season free of charge (apart from shipping).
True, but from what I've heard, when you install from the disc, you will have to go thru the same internet verication/registration as with the download version. The release of a boxed version only highlights the fact that it seems overkill to require a complicated & intrusive install routine (download a downloader/installer, download full installer using downloader/installer, install from the installer, have an internet connection available while installing to register and 'unlock' the product') when with any boxed game, you simply install whenever you want and to any number of computers you own & with no internet connection necessary.
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| 2 MAR 2007 at 8:14pm |
IviniaGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Normally I would say that is not a big deal SirDave, but in knowing your situation of multiple PCs and travel laptops, I can easily see how all of that can be a pain in the butt and I agree.
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| 2 MAR 2007 at 8:44pm |
AyaGrand Inquisitor
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Status : Offline | it's also a big deal for ppl who would want to (re)play the game in 10 years and don't want to have to keep track of telltale's condition and if there will be a patch or if they'll be around at that time :
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| 3 MAR 2007 at 2:17am |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By SirDave (2 MAR 2007 8:07pm)
Originally Posted By Lucien21 (2 MAR 2007 7:18am)
I believe when you purchased the season download you have the option of a disc version at the end of the season free of charge (apart from shipping).
Deja lu...
True, but from what I've heard, when you install from the disc, you will have to go thru the same internet verication/registration as with the download version. The release of a boxed version only highlights the fact that it seems overkill to require a complicated & intrusive install routine (download a downloader/installer, download full installer using downloader/installer, install from the installer, have an internet connection available while installing to register and 'unlock' the product') when with any boxed game, you simply install whenever you want and to any number of computers you own & with no internet connection necessary.
Deja Lu...
See the older thread "taken for a ride" or something. Same discussion, same arguments by the same posters. :
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| 3 MAR 2007 at 3:20am |
SirDaveGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Betje (3 MAR 2007 2:17am)
Originally Posted By SirDave (2 MAR 2007 8:07pm)
Originally Posted By Lucien21 (2 MAR 2007 7:18am)
I believe when you purchased the season download you have the option of a disc version at the end of the season free of charge (apart from shipping).
Deja lu...
True, but from what I've heard, when you install from the disc, you will have to go thru the same internet verication/registration as with the download version. The release of a boxed version only highlights the fact that it seems overkill to require a complicated & intrusive install routine (download a downloader/installer, download full installer using downloader/installer, install from the installer, have an internet connection available while installing to register and 'unlock' the product') when with any boxed game, you simply install whenever you want and to any number of computers you own & with no internet connection necessary.
Deja Lu...
See the older thread "taken for a ride" or something. Same discussion, same arguments by the same posters. :
Not to mention appearances by our resident troller for trouble.
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| 3 MAR 2007 at 7:09am |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By SirDave (3 MAR 2007 3:20am)
Not to mention appearances by our resident troller for trouble.
First time I've heard having a good memory called "trolling".
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| 3 MAR 2007 at 9:35am |
MichalNGrand Inquisitor
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Status : Online | So, er, Lucien... why give out advice that you yourself aren't going to follow?
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| 3 MAR 2007 at 6:27pm |
SirDaveGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By MichalN (3 MAR 2007 9:34am)
So, er, Lucien... why give out advice that you yourself aren't going to follow?
In Judge Michal's court the provocateur is curiously never held to accounts.
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| 3 MAR 2007 at 6:31pm |
SirDaveGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Betje (3 MAR 2007 7:09am)
Originally Posted By SirDave (3 MAR 2007 3:20am)
Not to mention appearances by our resident troller for trouble.
First time I've heard having a good memory called "trolling".
You are confused. Here's a helpful reference:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll
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