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22 AUG 2004 at 12:21pm

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Originally Posted By Laz (22 AUG 2004 3:59am)
I hate to say this, but at the moment lucasarts sucks bad. They did make great games, but they suck now, and bad. They canceled all their adventure games and are totally on starwars.


Ummmm, what's your point?

Sierra is no better at the moment.

What does it matter what they're doing now. It doesn't effect the quality of past games, nor does it effect any discussion of the comparative quality of past games from both companies.

I don't like LucasArts any more than you at the moment, but they're in no danger of bankruptcy. I don't know where you get that idea, beyond your obvious and justified dislike of them.


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22 AUG 2004 at 8:02pm

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The first graphic adventure I played was Maniac Mansion for the NES, and I've been a fan of LucasArts ever since. At least, I've been a fan of THAT LucasArts, not the company that's currently masquerading around as LucasArts.  


There's no denying that Sierra was more prolific in their adventure games than LA was and there's also no denying that some of those games were really great, but I still have to go with LA. Games like Sam & Max, Full Throttle, Day of the Tentacle, Monkey Island, those games were just the best of the best as far I'm concerned. You guys may not agree, but I still think that The Curse of Monkey Island is the high water mark for the entire genre, and will probably remain that way for along time if not forever.

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22 AUG 2004 at 8:04pm
Deleted UserI just said some facts.

I do like lucasarts a lot though, but their adventure part is gone at the moment... They no longer are an adventure game company.

edit: joe, i think monkey island 2 was better than 3, just my thought

22 DEC 2004 at 1:01am
Deleted UserOh, and just some info ahead of time.

If they make m.i. 5 (which will be a miracle), I got a hunch they will have time-travel in it, so don't be expecting much of them in t3h future.

10 JAN 2005 at 11:15pm

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Hi, I'm new here,

I just want to say, that I enjoy all the great adventure games these two companies have given us, and I don't prefer one over the other. I just like to play good adventure games, and that's what they have both made. They are different, but equally good in my opinion.
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25 JAN 2005 at 4:46pm

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They canceled all their adventure games and are totally on starwars.  

No they're not. They still make or publish some of the best games ever. They also make non-star wars games.

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26 JAN 2005 at 12:55am

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Uhhh...
Like what?
I was under the impression they were farming out all their game development - even for non-adventure games.
KOTOR is from Bioware.
Indiana Jones and the Emperor's Tomb is from The Collective.
Jedi Outcast is from Raven Software.

Have a look at Mobygames and see how many recent games published by LucasArts were also developed by LucasArts.

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26 JAN 2005 at 11:56am

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They still make or publish some of the best games ever.

Mercenaries is going to one of their biggest sellers. It is for the best that they aren't buying up independent studios and letting the developers who go and start up new ones. They also have Star Wars: Republic Commando.

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24 MAR 2005 at 6:18pm
Deleted UserIt's said that sam 'n max 2 was 80% done. Then it got canceled. Way to go Lucasarts Adventure Games sector. Like I said earlier, Lucasarts is no longer an adventure game company.

25 APR 2005 at 4:57pm

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Well ... I think that Lucas Arts won't develop any good adventures from now on ... since the adventure team regrouped as Autumn Moon .

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13 MAY 2005 at 10:49pm

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I like Lucas art's adventures more but that's just my though... I really cant belive that there will be no monkley island 5!!!!??? >
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Can they sell the rights or something like that to some other company so they can make the sequel? (Automn Moon?)

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7 SEP 2005 at 8:50am

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Sorry, I can't choose since I love them both. Although, "Sierra" has done a couple of mediocre games but the "Quest for Glory" series make up for that (at least the first, second and fourth one).

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11 OCT 2005 at 5:38pm

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I never liked Sierra, all I ever played was some of the Space Quest games.
Lucas on the other hand will allways be number 1.
I can't really explain why, that's just the way it is. Maybe it's because I started playing MM and Zak on the C64 before I got a PC to even play Sierra. But by then I compared everything to Lucas standards, and I have allways thought the Sierra's were worse, or maybe I just couldn't get used to them...


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18 DEC 2005 at 4:21am

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Hello There!  


So.  Some people consider that Sierra is not up to the standards of LucasArts.

Hum.......

Standards of quality?

Standards of quantity?

Just a few passing thoughts to remember.

It was Sierra who first developed the graphics for a wholesale market.  Through the creation of Mystery House, and the first King's Quest for the PC Junior.  No one had done this before them geared towards the mass market.
All the others that came after had to learn from Sierra's mistakes.  Its easy to do that if you are not the first who is leading the way.

And Sierra did stretch itself pretty far.  Because most seem to forget that Sierra did not only make games.

Does anyone remember................

Homeword 1, 2. and Plus.  These were word processors made by Sierra.  LucasArts never did.
Does anyone remember also....
Lisa 2.5
Screenwriter
Smart Money: to handle your finances
The Artist: Graphic Software
The General Manager
The Dictionary............
All by Sierra

Does anyone else remember Sierra's arcade games..........
Aquatron
Creepy Corridors
Cubeit
Frogger...Anyone remember this one.
Gobbler
Hi-Res Football
Hi-Res Soccer
Jawbreaker
Lunar Leaper
Marauder
Missle Defense
Mr. Cool
Nova 9
Oil's Well Pest Patrol
Sabotage
Sammy Lightfoot
Sierra Championship Boxing
Silpheed
Stunt Flyer
Threshold
Thexder
To name a few................

How about................
Mixed Up Mother Goose
Mixed Up Fairy Tales. Which had its own coloring book and coloring pencils included. LucasArts?
The Johnny Castaway screensaver, which to this day, no other company has produced anything like it!
Willy Beamish.  This one was fun.
Aces of the Pacific
Betrayal at Krondor-CD-Rom version was excellent.
Stellar 7
Heart of China
Red Baron, and Red Baron Mission Builder. One of the best WWI flying games ever made. Ahead of its time.
Rise of the Dragon
Alien Legacy
The Incredible Machine
The Hoyle game series
Jones in the Fastlane
Golf Challenge
3D Helicopter Flight Simulator
Donald Duck's Playground
Dragon's Keep
Troll's Tale
Championship Boxing
Oil's Well
Sorcerian
Outpost
Freddy Pharkas Frontier Pharmacist
Codename Iceman
Castle of Dr Brain
Shivers 1 and 2
Lost Mind of Dr. Brain
Pepper's Adventures in Time
The Black Cauldron

If I remember correctly, Sierra had a hand in an Ultima game or two

Of course who can forget the Gabriel Knight Series
or the Kings Quest Series
Time Zone...The largest game during its time.  Has anyone ever finished it.  Except Roberta Williams.
Ever heard of Quest for Glory!
Laura Bow 2
The Colonel's Bequest.
The Search for Cetus
Ecoquest 2 - The Lost Secret of the Rainforest
Manhunter San Francisco and Manhunter New York
Conquest of Camelot
Mission Asteroid
Phantasmagoria 1 and 2
And off course the Urban Runner fiasco.

The Legend of Robin Hood: Conquest of the Long Bow.. Still around and a very good one too!
How about Police Quest..The original ones
And off course.  Who can forget Larry Laffer of the Leisure Suit series.
How about the Space Quest series.. Anyone heard of it.

Sierra built an empire of many different games and software tittles.  They did a great deal.
Yes.  They tried for quantity.  But they were the first in many things.

Yes.  Sierra also did produce many crappy ones.  And they built many great ones also.
More then LucasArts.  And unlike LucasArts.  They did a great deal earlier than anyone.  So no one to
copy from or learn how to avoid mistakes from.

Sierra tried to be a game company for all ages.

One other thing about the "old" Sierra.
Unlike LucasArts.
To put it bold, rude, and truthfully.  They had the balls to finish everything they started.
LucasArts has had too many instances of starting and stopping projects while still in the crib.

And in my book, that shows a company with resolve and quality to finish what it starts.


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9 FEB 2006 at 10:04am

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I've got to say... I really like them both... Sierra had the Space Quest Series, which rocked... Miss ol' Roger...

And Monkey Island... Who doesn't love that game!


Currently, I'm replaying SP4 and Maniac Mansion. So it sort of tells you I think having a preference is absolute rubbish


Pity I cannot find any worthwhile adventure games these days...

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