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| 3 DEC 2006 at 9:50pm |
Gameman007Space Cadet
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Status : Offline | I actually liked many of the Cryo games, never had a problem with them and was sorry they folded.. All of the Atlantis games,Odyssey, Faust and Salammbo.
Would the oceans be deeper if there weren't any sponges?&&If the world didn't suck would we all fall off&&&&Currently playing Secret files:Tunguska, Paradise, The DaVinci Code and Dreamfall
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| 3 DEC 2006 at 9:55pm |
IviniaGuild Master
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Status : Offline | I don't think Cryo necessarily folded. Any company is only as good as their employees (look at Sierra). Those Cryo employees are still making games, they just call themselves Kheops now. Cryo no longer exists on paper, but those that put out the games are still doing it.
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| 3 DEC 2006 at 9:57pm |
IviniaGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Andromus (3 DEC 2006 7:13pm)
Well, I used those two games since the original debate was between Myst style games and the Syberia style that dominates today's games. But I'll gladly join the (old) LucasArtsians as well as the Mysters. And I'm definitely a GKer if not a Sierran.
I prefer just calling myself a gamer. It's all encompassing. 8-)
even though I preferred Sierra over Lucas...
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| 3 DEC 2006 at 10:09pm |
Gameman007Space Cadet
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Status : Offline | Agree totally Ivinia. My favorites have encompassed all the major developers and the Indies and I don't specifically identify myself with any one in particular. I think your simple all encompassing gamer designation is perfect.
Bill
Would the oceans be deeper if there weren't any sponges?&&If the world didn't suck would we all fall off&&&&Currently playing Secret files:Tunguska, Paradise, The DaVinci Code and Dreamfall
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| 3 DEC 2006 at 10:32pm |
Jenny100Guild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Ivinia (3 DEC 2006 9:55pm)
I don't think Cryo necessarily folded. Any company is only as good as their employees (look at Sierra). Those Cryo employees are still making games, they just call themselves Kheops now.
That's only some of them. Others went on to form Atlantis Interactive Entertainment and create Atlantis Evolution. Saying Cryo is now Kheops is like saying LucasArts is now Telltale and completely ignoring Autumn Moon Entertainment or any other company that might be started by an ex-LucasArts employee.
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| 3 DEC 2006 at 10:47pm |
IviniaGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Not really. You go with who has been the most successful. Until Autumn Moon gets Vampyre Story out and achieves some success with it, TellTale will be the one most recognized as ex-Lucas. Atlantis Revolution didn't really rip through the chart, so AIE isn't getting much attention as ex-Cryo. As it stands, currently Kheops has kept closest to the old Cryo formula and improved it, as Tell Tale is doing by grabbing Sam & Max. Heck, Kheops is even keeping the Cryo tradition of putting out game after game after game. I hope Autmn Moon can get their stuff out, but TellTale has had better success with releasing several titles thus far and continuing to grow.
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| 3 DEC 2006 at 10:57pm |
colpetSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | I prefer just calling myself a gamer. It's all encompassing.
Most of the people I socialize with equate gamer with shoot-em-up or sports type games. . Or, when I say I play computer games, they assume it is an online multi-player type games. I guess puzzle games are more like it, but they don't convey the exploration and discovery that I love about adventures.
My guess would be that people who love solving the puzzles in Myst-like games, would particularly enjoy Sudoku (are you listening Colpet?). Sudoku is now side-by-side with crossword puzzles in most of the major newspapers.
I haven't been hooked yet. Most of my casual gaming time is spend doing jigsaws.
Occasionally visiting Uru Live (KI 0063722 .&&
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| 4 DEC 2006 at 4:23am |
Melanie68Intergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Chocolate Lips (3 DEC 2006 6:48am)
If I want to read a book - I'll read a book. I don't need a storyline that grabs me. I don't want my pc games to be like watching little movies either. How utterly pointless.
I think part of what draws people to story/character driven games is that they are different from books. You become immersed in both types of stories but with a book, it's a passive experience (if others have a different experience, I'd love to hear it). Whereas in an AG, you are actively immersed in the story. It's the player that makes the story progress. You're trying to figure out how the character would do things (which is not always well done ).
I think I'm a little weird in that I can play all types of games. Those with immersive environments like the Myst series and those that are story/character driven and 3rd person (or 1st person). It depends on my mood. Sometimes I don't feel like interacting with a bunch of other people on the screen and other times I do.
Like you said, and I heartily agree, to each their own and I hope all different types of games continue to get made.
I wish you were closer so you could do my dishes. (just kidding!)
What I resist, persists and speaks louder than I know.
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| 4 DEC 2006 at 4:26am |
Melanie68Intergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By colpet (3 DEC 2006 10:56pm)
I haven't been hooked yet. Most of my casual gaming time is spend doing jigsaws.
[smiley=offtopic.gif] <---- me
I have lots of jigsaw puzzles but I don't dare leave them out and I don't have a good room to put them in where I can close the doors. My cats would be up there batting the pieces and would probably steal them to play with them.
What I resist, persists and speaks louder than I know.
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| 4 DEC 2006 at 7:23am |
CarolineJA+ Overseer
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Melanie68 (4 DEC 2006 4:23am)
I wish you were closer so you could do my dishes. (just kidding!)
Well bring them over, put the jigsaws in the bag too. I have a nice big dining table I do mine on. I also do them on computer too, good fun.
As for characters in games, that's the whole point - I don't have patience with their conversation choices because they're always different from mine. I want to be the hero of the game.
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| 4 DEC 2006 at 11:31am |
jamarchandSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | To be or not to be a clone > it doesn't matter. The real important thing is - if a game (clone or not), is a good one.
Rhem is an excelent game...and is a Riven/Myst clone.
I prefer hidden passages, object manipulation and secret paths...than simply talk to characters...principally, talk to silly and unrael 3D puppets. Love Riven-like solitude.
What's the fun in interrogate characters?
I like to solve puzzles, discover how to open a door, a desk, get out a room, access a bridge, figure out a code and things like that.
Talk to people??? No, thanks! I did and do this..a lot of time in my life.
 &&&&[move]Actually playing SHIVERS and Rhem 2[/move]&&
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| 4 DEC 2006 at 12:29pm |
colpetSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | Off topic:
With 7 cats, traditional jigsaws would be folly. I subscribe to Peter's Jigsaws, and do all of mine on the computer. . I make it as hard as possible by not looking at the picture before hand, and not using and of the aids that come with the games.
http://www.mulawa.net/
Occasionally visiting Uru Live (KI 0063722 .&&
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| 4 DEC 2006 at 4:32pm |
SirDaveGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By colpet (4 DEC 2006 12:28pm)
Off topic:
With 7 cats, traditional jigsaws would be folly. I subscribe to Peter's Jigsaws, and do all of mine on the computer. . I make it as hard as possible by not looking at the picture before hand, and not using and of the aids that come with the games.
http://www.mulawa.net/
Colpet- we continue to 'channel'!: A computer jigsaw site I've used for years is David Gray's Jigsaws Galore:
http://www.dgray.com/
The future ain't what it used to be!
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| 4 DEC 2006 at 5:26pm |
Lucien21Guild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By SirDave (4 DEC 2006 4:32pm)
Originally Posted By colpet (4 DEC 2006 12:28pm)
Off topic:
With 7 cats, traditional jigsaws would be folly. I subscribe to Peter's Jigsaws, and do all of mine on the computer. . I make it as hard as possible by not looking at the picture before hand, and not using and of the aids that come with the games.
http://www.mulawa.net/
Colpet- we continue to 'channel'!: A computer jigsaw site I've used for years is David Gray's Jigsaws Galore:
http://www.dgray.com/
Can't stand his music.
Dear Diary, My teenage angst bullsh*t now has a bodycount.
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| 4 DEC 2006 at 6:27pm |
colpetSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By SirDave (4 DEC 2006 4:32pm)
Originally Posted By colpet (4 DEC 2006 12:28pm)
Off topic:
With 7 cats, traditional jigsaws would be folly. I subscribe to Peter's Jigsaws, and do all of mine on the computer. . I make it as hard as possible by not looking at the picture before hand, and not using and of the aids that come with the games.
http://www.mulawa.net/
Colpet- we continue to 'channel'!: A computer jigsaw site I've used for years is David Gray's Jigsaws Galore:
http://www.dgray.com/
Thanks for the link. I tried out the install demo. I think Peter's are simpler, just right click to rotate rather than a menu. And I do like to not look at what I'm working on - more of a challenge that way. Try his demo and let me know what you think.
Occasionally visiting Uru Live (KI 0063722 .&&
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| 4 DEC 2006 at 8:02pm |
Lucien21Guild Master
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Status : Offline | You can turn the Ghost image off.
Dear Diary, My teenage angst bullsh*t now has a bodycount.
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| 4 DEC 2006 at 10:53pm |
IviniaGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Sir Dave, your evil plan worked! Get all the Myst lovers to post off topic in this thread and watch it die... [smiley=devil_smiley_grintail.gif]
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| 5 DEC 2006 at 12:13am |
Gameman007Space Cadet
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Status : Offline | Hey all you 3rd person, story driven characxter interaction loveras try Secret Files: Tunguska!! I'm playing it now and loving it. Interesting story, great graphics and lots of interaction. Just my kind of game, perfect. Can't wait to get Broken Sword 4, Murder on the Orient Express and Pathologic.
Would the oceans be deeper if there weren't any sponges?&&If the world didn't suck would we all fall off&&&&Currently playing Secret files:Tunguska, Paradise, The DaVinci Code and Dreamfall
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| 5 DEC 2006 at 1:10am |
SirDaveGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Ivinia (4 DEC 2006 10:53pm)
Sir Dave, your evil plan worked! Get all the Myst lovers to post off topic in this thread and watch it die... [smiley=devil_smiley_grintail.gif]
Why don't we all just sit around the campfire and swap manly Myst stories (if there are any men among you 3rd person, story driven, inventory-laden adventure game players)!
The future ain't what it used to be!
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| 5 DEC 2006 at 2:09am |
CarolineJA+ Overseer
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Status : Offline | Sheriff Dave, his gut already full of moonshine Myst, swaggered into the bar. He was so manly he didn't hold it open for the person following who got his specs knocked off on the back swing.
The self-appointed Sheriff surveyed the crowd with blurry eyes "hmm.... inventory lovers, the lot of 'em" he snorted, hitching his belt higher so he could swagger properly to the counter.
Downing his shot of Clear Myst Magic Mountain Whiskey in almost one manish gulp, he wiped his lips on the back of his sleeve and, keeping his eye on the silent crowd, slowly turned his empty glass upside down on the counter.
An even deeper hush fell over the room. Such a blatant challenge to physical combat hadn't been issued for ... oh..... since the last time SirDave rode into town brandishing his 10th Anniversary Special Gold Edition of Myst ahead of a Myst-loving posse.
Ivinia retreived his specs from the dusty floor and polished them furiously while the hostility in the room formed a huddle and decided what to do next. Sing cum-by-ahh and toast marshmallows, or smash the furniture and then beat the crap out of the Myst Hippies? The bar man was already hiding the whiskey...
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| 5 DEC 2006 at 3:48am |
HalcyonSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | I could live without P&C forever. I love a good story-driven plot as much as I do the Mystie games, but lose the pre-rendered graphics and allow us to experience the world. That's what I crave...not more talking to characters or seeing the same kitchen from the same spot from the same angle for the 19th time. That said, I think we're pretty lucky with the games of recent. I have the first Darkfall if anyone wants it....just looking at the box scares the bejesus outta me.
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| 5 DEC 2006 at 10:41am |
| Deleted User | DEJALUDEJALUDEJALULULULU
Oops! I'm late for the YesMyst-NoMyst Ritual, so sorry... blame The Sopranos. The first part of season six was released here on DVD five days ago, and it goes without saying that I just had to watch all twelve episodes as soon as possible. What a deep and absolutely wonderful series it is! Only 8 or 9 more episodes to go next year... :'(
Anyway... here's my usual offering to the Ritual: [highlight]Boy, do I feel blessed that I love ALL different kinds of adventures.[/highlight]
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| 5 DEC 2006 at 7:18pm |
sennebecGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Betje (5 DEC 2006 10:41am)
DEJALUDEJALUDEJALULULULU
Oops! I'm late for the YesMyst-NoMyst Ritual, so sorry... blame The Sopranos. The first part of season six was released here on DVD five days ago, and it goes without saying that I just had to watch all twelve episodes as soon as possible. What a deep and absolutely wonderful series it is! Only 8 or 9 more episodes to go next year... :'(
i've got 3 more episodes left of the sopranos season 6's first installment... i'm forcing myself to slow down and savor it all...
Anyway... here's my usual offering to the Ritual: [highlight]Boy, do I feel blessed that I love ALL different kinds of adventures.[/highlight]
i'll second that emotion! 8-)
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