| 19 OCT 2006 at 4:25pm |
anthonyJourneyman
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Status : Offline | Wow Caroline, what can I say? That electric guitar shines just like Eddie Van Halen's!
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| 21 OCT 2006 at 9:55pm |
BazzaLBPrivate Detective
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Status : Offline | Don't forget a set of headphones!
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| 22 OCT 2006 at 4:42am |
SusanGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Michelle (19 OCT 2006 9:31am)
I hope he'll remember the little people when he becomes a famous rock star! 8-)
And when he's onstage receiving an award for best album of the year, he better remember to thank his momma for all her love and support!
I miss my Bubba: 1986 - 2006.
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| 22 OCT 2006 at 12:37pm |
CarolineJA+ Overseer
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Status : Offline | He's been practising all weekend and has mastered Twinkle Twinkle Little Star. He's seriously in love....
This morning, in gales of laughter, he told me how, while we were out yesterday he'd turned the amp upto full volume 'to test it out' and the noise had set next door's dog howling.... [smiley=rofl.gif]
Did you know that if you unplug the guitar and put the lead from the amp to any part of your body it makes a noise? No? We've all had a go at playing the jack.
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| 22 OCT 2006 at 1:25pm |
MarkGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Caroline (22 OCT 2006 12:37pm)
Did you know that if you unplug the guitar and put the lead from the amp to any part of your body it makes a noise? No? We've all had a go at playing the jack.
What fun. Yes, it's a lot of fun going to buy new speakers when those blow up.
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| 22 OCT 2006 at 4:58pm |
ShadowWalkerJourneyman
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Caroline (22 OCT 2006 12:37pm)
Did you know that if you unplug the guitar and put the lead from the amp to any part of your body it makes a noise? No? We've all had a go at playing the jack.
Hello There!
.....................does it improve the noise depending on where you "PLUG" the jack into!? :
............just curious!
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| 22 OCT 2006 at 10:38pm |
CarolineJA+ Overseer
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Status : Offline | We only touched our hands and foreheads. [sigh] I suppose I'll have to pass on your caution Mark. Would it really harm the amp?
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| 23 OCT 2006 at 12:02am |
MarkGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Caroline (22 OCT 2006 10:38pm)
Would it really harm the amp?
Depends on how cranked up it is.
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| 23 OCT 2006 at 1:11am |
CarolineJA+ Overseer
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Status : Offline | Are you mad? We only let him play with it on 2.
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| 23 OCT 2006 at 6:11am |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By anthony (16 OCT 2006 3:40pm)
My vote for acoustic is based on two things most relevant to a parent: cost and hassle. My guess is that you can pick-up an acoustic guitar, a song book and a bag of plastic picks at a music store for a few hundred dollars. You'll be in and out of the place in a half an hour.
No, an acoustic guitar is not an "easy" choice simply because it doesn't require an amp or cables. And by the way, you can use an acoustic with with an amp and cables--many do.
Electric? You got amps, pre-amps, special cables, headphones, and a bunch of devices I've never heard of before. Then its "head to aisle three, sir" for some effects, a pick-up, a wah pedal, a stompbox, a slide, etc. You're in the place for hours and heading into four-figure territory. All those boxes, all that styrofoam, all those warranty cards to fill out and mail, all those twisty thingies to tie up the wires, all that cellophane.
No, an electric doesn't require all of that. You can get a nice starter guitar and amp starter package for $269 around Christmas. They can add stompbox pedals later, or you start them with one for $50 to start and they add as they make their own money.
(Um, pick-ups come on the guitar when you buy it from the factory. Experienced guitarists may upgrade them, but they always come with.)
Important note on cost: playable electrics are cheaper than playable acoustics. If you buy a crappy guitar that's hard to play, you are heading them down the road to ignoratum. A cheap acoustic is usually difficult to play, where a cheap electric usually much easier to play.
Then, before you know it, you're back again for some chrome-plated strings and a wax and polish kit so that the guitar shines like Eddie Van Halen's. Now that it glistens, you can't just slide it under the bed, you need a display stand. And how about some leopard skin straps? Cha-ching. Cha-ching. Cha-ching.
Um, no. Polish is usually designed for acoustic guitar finishes. You can get it for electrics, but since they're largely painted surfaces, a rag is enough. EVH in fact painted his own. I don't think he worried much about polish.
All guitars need a stand, and it's not for display, it's for care. It's called a 'guitar stand' and every time you finish playing, you place your guitar on its stand. My acoustics certainly sit on a stand when not in a case, I can tell you.
All guitars use straps if you play them standing up.
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| 23 OCT 2006 at 6:18am |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By Caroline (19 OCT 2006 8:07am)
The noise machine has landed. Fender amp and guitar. !st lesson tomorrow. Amps are heavy aren't they?
Yes! Those Fender Squire packages are good starters.
Decent amps are indeed heavy. If they weren't, they wouldn't sound as good.
Caroline, if this goes over the line re: noise, it doesn't cost too terribly much to get these little digital practice boxes that one plugs headphones into. They're really quite feature packed these days, with several different amp sounds (from clean to heavy) and a dozen "stompbox" emulations. They start well under $200. Some of them have AUX inputs, so he could plug in an MP3 player to jam along to.
I've got a couple of them, even though I have several amps and real stompboxes. Stop me if I've told this story, but I use it camping and get some interesting looks.
And he could still use his amp when he jams with his buds, of course.
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| 23 OCT 2006 at 9:36am |
CarolineJA+ Overseer
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Status : Offline | I looked into the cheaper electric guitar packages and decided on a quality deal. It's a hire to purchase arrangement. So I've given him until Xmas to decide if he likes it. If not, I hand it back and I'm out $100. If yes, I keep it and get to pay it off monthly and he gets to commit to 2 years of lessons and playing in the school concerts. That's the deal at this school. Every child receiving lessons has to perform although not every child makes the band.
Now he wants a gadget to tune it. $30.... I can hear Anthony giggling.... :
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| 23 OCT 2006 at 9:47am |
MarkGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Caroline (23 OCT 2006 9:35am)
Now he wants a gadget to tune it. $30....
A tuning fork tuned A-440 is cheaper. Or he can use his ear to tune to your piano (provided the piano itself is in tune).
I'll bet they didn't have those digital tuning gadgets when Specky was starting...now, did they, Speck?
Oh. Maybe they did. You're only 50 now. [smiley=whistle.gif]
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| 23 OCT 2006 at 12:54pm |
| Deleted User | Amps are funny things. The next thing you know, you'll receive some AM radio in yours (something I've experienced a few times).
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| 23 OCT 2006 at 9:00pm |
anthonyJourneyman
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Not A Speck Of Cereal (23 OCT 2006 6:10am)
You can get a nice starter guitar and amp starter package for $269 around Christmas.
Wonderful! A starter kit, and not with just any old guitar but a "nice" one. Hey, is a "nice" guitar the same thing as a "bitchin'" one? I gotta ask cause that's what my kid's gonna ask me. If not, do you think they'll let me substitute for the "nice" guitar in the starter kit and get the Gibson Jimy Hendrix Flying V instead for the $270 price:
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v59/adisarro/JimyHendrixFlyingV_1.jpg[/img]
Hell, even I will be able to kick some major league a$$ with that, don't you think?
Chris, I'm just playin' with you, cause, well, you turned fifty.
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| 23 OCT 2006 at 9:23pm |
MarkGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Just a thought. Little Geoffrey would get more (paying) gigs if he played bass guitar, ya know.
Bassists are always in short supply for gigs. Many a time I had to "kick" bass (either with my feet or playing left-hand keyboard bass).
Doubling Bootsy's "lead" ("treble-bass" bass funk, you understand. Someone had to lay down the low-end bass groove while Billy...um..."Bootsy" flitted about - and that was me on a Moog or other synth.
I met Billy when he played for James Brown's back-up band (The Pacesetters, I think) in my hometown: Augusta, Georgia. I was about seventeen years old, just had received acceptance into classical music conservatory, and needed the money. Mr. Brown heard me play and asked me to play Hammond B-3 in the movie title soundtrack of "Black Caesar". I was paid $200 and received no credit. Cash on the barrel.
I took the money and moved from Augusta the next day with a mattress tied to the roof of my funky car.
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| 23 OCT 2006 at 10:55pm |
CarolineJA+ Overseer
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Status : Offline | One day, dear, I'd like to hear all your interesting adventures.
How about you move down here and visit me on Sundays? I'll cook you some nice home cooked roasts and you can just talk. oh, and then you get to play my piano the way it ought to be played.
Yeah, I know, No such thing as a free lunch.
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| 24 OCT 2006 at 3:33am |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By Mark (23 OCT 2006 9:47am)
Originally Posted By Caroline (23 OCT 2006 9:35am)
Now he wants a gadget to tune it. $30....
A tuning fork tuned A-440 is cheaper. Or he can use his ear to tune to your piano (provided the piano itself is in tune).
I'll bet they didn't have those digital tuning gadgets when Specky was starting...now, did they, Speck?
Oh. Maybe they did. You're only 50 now. [smiley=whistle.gif]
Yes, they've had them for awhile now, ya geezer you! But I've never needed them. An A-440 tuning fork is all I've ever needed and ... and ... and I think I can still hear it.
But then, I got my A-440 tuning fork for my acoustic, not electric. It works for both, but it resonates better on an acoustic body.
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| 24 OCT 2006 at 3:35am |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By anthony (23 OCT 2006 9:00pm)
Chris, I'm just playin' with you, cause, well, you turned fifty.
I dig it, but hey, I've been WORKING at it for awhile now. It's all down hill from here... well, for another 5 years maybe.
Mark, you rock. I've travelled up and down the left coast with furniture in or tied to my car, but I never managed to jam with Jimmy.
But those are wise words. I often wish I would have gone with bass rather than guitar. Talk about groove!
Eh?
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| 24 OCT 2006 at 4:00pm |
SusanGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Caroline (23 OCT 2006 9:35am)
Every child receiving lessons has to perform although not every child makes the band.
Now he wants a gadget to tune it. $30.... I can hear Anthony giggling.... :
How interesting ... for me in school, it was always that you were in the band (or orchestra or choir), which gave performances, and lessons were taught by the directors - or a private instructor (provided your parents were willing to pay for the lessons).
A tuner of my own, though, never occurred to me until I had been playing for a few years, when it was suggested to me by my teacher. Came in quite handy for independent solo/ensemble playing outside of school to make sure everyone was in tune.
The problem with guitars is that I know nothing about them - so it's a good thing this forum has its own experts to provide some advice. My thinking would have been acoustic before electric, in that someone would learn on an acoustic guitar before learning on something that gets plugged in. I'm thinking of "step up" instruments, but that's probably not the case with guitars.
By "step up", I mean learning on the original/basic version of an instrument before stepping up to the more advanced one in that instrument family, if so desired. A flutist plays flute for a few years before she's ready to play piccolo, a clarinetist plays clarinet before moving on to oboe, English horn, or bass clarinet, a trumpet or cornet player starts there before playing French horn, etc.
I miss my Bubba: 1986 - 2006.
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| 24 OCT 2006 at 7:08pm |
Chris.Schattenjger
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My brother's decided he wants a guitar now. He says he's got a place in a band if he can play well enough by Christmas. Hmm...
...not to be confused with Keira Knightley
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| 24 OCT 2006 at 7:23pm |
anthonyJourneyman
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Susan (24 OCT 2006 4:00pm)
The problem with guitars is that I know nothing about them -
Why is that a problem? My knowing diddly squat about guitars hasn't prevented me from pontificating on the subject.
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| 24 OCT 2006 at 7:44pm |
| Deleted User | Imo, synthesizers are way cooler than guitars. There's only so many ways you can make a guitar sound.
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| 24 OCT 2006 at 8:58pm |
BazzaLBPrivate Detective
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Petter_Holmberg (24 OCT 2006 7:43pm)
Imo, synthesizers are way cooler than guitars. There's only so many ways you can make a guitar sound.
You can plug your guitar into your computer and with the right software make it sound just like one of your synths (although there is the limitation of 1 hand versus 2 playing the synth)
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