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| 7 NOV 2006 at 7:48pm |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By MrLipid (6 NOV 2006 10:13pm)
And expect XP to be less and less compatible with all the goodies -- such as DirectX 10 -- with which Redmond is going to entice developers. Once Vista ships, XP becames a lame duck. Nothing profound here. Just the way things are.
Will XP keep working for years? No doubt. Just like DOS does even now. But attention will be on the next bright shiny object: Vista. Microsoft has no interest in seeing everyone continue to use XP. And the way to pry all those fingers off the old OS to make something that only works on the new OS.
Sure that's they way it goes. Software progresses over the years. Microsoft got quite a lot behind in technology (see Internet Explorer 7 - no match at all for Opera 9 or Firefox 2) but they still need to make money and a new OS after 5 years certainly was due on time.
I have no worries, though, I keep my old computers stored away (a 386 with DOS, a 486 DX4 100 notebook with Win 95, a Pentium 100 and a P2 350 with Win 98 and soon my Athlon Thunderbird 1100 with XP will be not needed anymore since I'm going to get a new machine next week and my current PC will replace the Thunderbird as 2nd PC). When I'm in the mood I can always start them all up again. Sure I think without a patch I can't install XP anymore in maybe ten, 15 years but probably they offer it for free someday like they do with the old MS DOS stuff and software like Word 5. Else there's always a chance for an "abondonware" crack if really no other option is left to be able to dwell in old memories.
I do in fact look forward to Vista and Direct X10 but also with a foul taste in my mouth since I had hoped they would improve much more. They probably are still not in par with Mac OS X and even some Linux graphical user interfaces can (with lots of hassle, though) be turned into better and more modern looking then Vista (or XP with Vista mod).
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| 7 NOV 2006 at 8:05pm |
MrLipidPrivate Detective
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Status : Offline | We are in complete agreement!
I also have a flock of systems of different ages, horsepowers and operating systems, standing by for those days when I want to run something that cannot be easily run on the latest and the greatest.
Given how long it took me to install XP (didn't get around to it until this past summer), I suspect I'll be installing Vista sometime around 2010 or so. Just in time for Service Pack 2.
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| 8 NOV 2006 at 1:43pm |
| Deleted User | Haha
About Vista, I probably will buy the retail version next year for my new computer but not soon after the release since I first want to see how it develops especially game-wise. However when the first "must have" games come out I might be forced to upgrade. Hmm I just hope a GF7600GT is enough (my current PC running a Radeon 9800Pro most certainly will be a bit slow).
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| 8 NOV 2006 at 8:10pm |
MrLipidPrivate Detective
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Ogre (8 NOV 2006 1:42pm)
I just hope a GF7600GT is enough...
I recently upgraded to a GF7600GS and it is spectacular. And the GT is even better. So, I would suspect you'll be fine.
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| 8 NOV 2006 at 9:54pm |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By MrLipid (8 NOV 2006 8:10pm)
Originally Posted By Ogre (8 NOV 2006 1:42pm)
I just hope a GF7600GT is enough...
I recently upgraded to a GF7600GS and it is spectacular. And the GT is even better. So, I would suspect you'll be fine.
Thanks, I hope so, too.
Damn think is after I went to the store to order the new PC today I just found out that NVidia is now releasing the GF 8800 (first DX10) card. It costs a fortune but I'm pretty sure the 7000 series will drop in price soon.
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| 9 NOV 2006 at 5:11am |
MrLipidPrivate Detective
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Status : Offline | Ogre,
Rather than strive for the latest and the greatest, I prefer to slip into the recent and the decent. Amazing how much one can save by choosing the second from the top. And if one is patient, time offers great deals...
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| 9 NOV 2006 at 12:23pm |
| Deleted User | Yupp, I do that, too. My last PC was such a thing. The Athlon 64 and NForce 4 chipset just were released but cost quite a lot so I went for an Athlon XP and NForce 2 and Radeon 9800 instead the X1000 series (or GF6000 series) and saved quite a few hundred Euro.
This time I went for a Core 2 Duo E6600, MSI board with Intel 965 chipset and DDR2 PC667 RAM which is a bit more (200 Euro more altogether) even though I saved the drives both DVD and HDD, I take them from my old computers on the other hand I hope it will last a bit longer. My problem is that we need 2 computers to play games and my wife just discovered online shooters (Joint Operations, Battlefield 2) for herself (impossible on the old Athlon 1,1 GHz with Radeon 9600 Pro - WoW and Guild Wars ran fine on it, though) so we always need two at least decent machines.
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| 9 NOV 2006 at 3:44pm |
MrLipidPrivate Detective
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Status : Offline | My wife's computer is faster than mine though hobbled with a weak video card.
She doesn't mind, though, since her favorite games are Rocket Mania and D.N.A.. And, now and then, a Nancy Drew.
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| 9 NOV 2006 at 7:10pm |
| Deleted User | Lol, my wife started out in the arcades during her childhood with games like Bubble Bobble and Co. When we met I practically forced her to "go back" and play something and she ended up loving "Knights & Merchants" (she didn't bother about The Settlers or Anno 1602, though) played nothing else for quite a while. When Guild Wars came out we played it together for eternity and for a while also World of Warcraft. Since I had Joint Operations on my PC and she kinda lost interest in Guild Wars she started playing it and became very addicted. She heard about the newer Battlefield 2 which doesn't run on her PC so we now have to get a new PC (well I get the new one and she mine at least ^^). I tried many times to seduce her to play adventures and she did watch me sometimes play Broken Sword 3 (PS2), Moment of Silence and helped me in Nibiru with some puzzles but else she things these games are boring. She kinda is a math genious so puzzles like in Myst kinda bore her, too... I tried everything to get her to "women's games" like adventure games or The Sims but she says they're boring... ^^ - what can I do?
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| 10 NOV 2006 at 6:37am |
MrLipidPrivate Detective
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Status : Offline | My wife threw me a curve this evening.
She realized she had never tried flight sims. Given the number of pilots in her family, she thought she might be missing something.
Might be time for a new video card in her machine....
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| 3 DEC 2007 at 2:46am |
SherryahIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | Hi everyone,
I understand feeling like a criminal when you try and redownload a paid game. I have been told by bigifishgames that I have
used up my 5 downloads for instance and that was because years ago I downloaded the game. However I do buy and download games online because living in Europe I really have no other choice many times. I had no problems with downloading darkness within Loath Noder, for instance from adventureshop. It was a fast download. I am grateful to be able to buy and download online the newest games and it is true I take a chance each time, but it has been worth it. Bigfishgames is my favorite place to download the casual games as well as real arcade. I agree also that I am disappointed that paying and downloading the games cost as much as a boxed version. I do not understand how that is fair, there is no packaging charges, shipping and handling, CD or DVD shipped. I wanted to download the game nostrodomus and when I saw the price to download it today at the site I am holding off for now and hoping I can buy it in Ireland. The price is unreasonable in my opinion for a download. Come on, show some mercy here and stop price gouging for paid downloads. Also sometimes I am at the mercy of slow servers from the gaming sites doing the paid downloads because of band width so many others are downloading the same game. The companies in my opinion need to consider this and make the servers faster. It can be a real bummer to try and download a game for 5 hours on a internet connection. I did it with Culpa innata and had to buy the insurance from them because stragedyfirst said I had used up my maximum tries too download the game. They wrote me this knowing I had never completed the download because I kept writing and complaining to them. The reason was I kept losing connection since I live in Europe. This is not fair, when we buy a game in a download we should not have to pay for insurance and have a maximum number of downloads. I was unable to use download accelerator for Culpa Innata and stragedyfirst told me DAP used up most of my maximum downloads. I could not find anywhere this warning was given on their site, how was I to know better? I had never been told this before in any of the paid downloads from other companies. So I was forced to buy their insurance so I could download as many times as I needed too so I could complete the purchase. It took me 3 days of disconnetions and 3 times the downloads were corrupted. OUCH! But you know what the 3 days of misery I endured was worth it, because Culpa innata is a great game. I never would have been able to say that because it still is not in Ireland to purchase and the postage charged is rediculous. So in closing I moved from America and no longer have the luxury of going to a walmart and buying the computer games, so paying for downloads is a blessing for me and others. I hope all game companies will give us this option, just give us a price break because there is no game we can even trade after we win it.
Happy Gaming to all
Sherryah
Life is like an adventure game without a walkthrough or any hints. keep trying you will make it.
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| 3 DEC 2007 at 5:18am |
papillonSorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Online | Dunno about big fish games specifically, but a LOT of online game sellers have 'five downloads' as the basic limit but will let you download more if you write them and ask really nicely.
They have some basic number hardcoded in to make sure people don't buy the game and then give it away to absolutely everybody on the internet - so if a zillion different people try to get the game it won't work. But if you explain why you've used up your five and that you really are the person who bought the game and you're polite and stuff, most sellers will help you.
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| 4 DEC 2007 at 4:46am |
SherryahIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | Thank you Papillon for responding. I agree but it still is a hassle when you have proof you bought the download game.
Bigfish is good about giving another download when you explain. However being forced to buy insurance from other download
sites is not right, just so they keep a record of your purchase so you can download later if you need too. Bigfish keeps the
records free and I have been satisfied with them and the quality of the games as well.
Happy Gaming to you
Sherryah
Life is like an adventure game without a walkthrough or any hints. keep trying you will make it.
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| 17 DEC 2007 at 1:20am |
JoGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Personally I'd never buy a game I had to download again. I bought Secrets of Da Vinci that way originally - never could get it to install despite emails back and forth. In the end they offered my money back but of course I never received it so eventually bought the game (a new game not a second-hand one) from a seller on EBay. So glad I did by the way, the game was worth it IMO, even after paying for it twice.
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| 17 DEC 2007 at 11:37pm |
IviniaGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Are you guys who say you will never buy a game you had to download strictly speaking of the commercial games in stores via a bunch a faceless middlemen who remain a mystery with no apparent direct ties to the developers or ANY game that you have to buy via download?
As someone whose entire business is built around people purchasing and downloading my games via the web, I find these experiences you've had with other vendors extremely alarming. It's that whole once bitten - twice shy thing, especially when you consider that your lack of trust is based on someone else. In a strange way, you are paying back the offending vendor by hurting the honest one. The offending vendor isn't hurt at all - they already stole your money - but the honest one who would bend over backwards to make you happy gets...well...screwed. :-/
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| 18 DEC 2007 at 1:48am |
papillonSorcerer Apprentice
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However being forced to buy insurance from other download
sites is not right
Ooo, download insurance! > >
That's a long and nasty story that didn't happen to me but did happen to some people. (Forgive me if I get the details wrong, but as I understand it - ) What happened was that some payment processors came up with this idea that they could charge people extra money for 'insurance' that they'd probably never use. So they could just ask for more money for nothing! What's worse is that almost any developer would ALREADY set up a new download for you if you asked, so it wasn't even a service that was NEEDED. And worse, the money they get from the 'download insurance' goes to them, not to the game developer!
Worst of all, they set this up on people's accounts without asking. Developers didn't ask for this service, they just decided to put it on everybody's account without asking. And for a lot of people, it made sales go DOWN, because seeing a charge for 'download insurance' made buyers nervous, thinking that they might lose their game and not be able to get it back, so they just wouldn't buy it!
When the developers found out about it they could ASK the payment processor to take that thing off their order forms, but if nobody told them it was there, they didn't even KNOW!! Because it was completely added by the money-handling people, not the people who made the game.
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| 24 JUL 2008 at 11:34pm |
AlienBZJourneyman
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Status : Offline | I agree 1000% with you, Aya. I never, ever, ever download these download games. I don't believe in them and never, ever did. That's why I always, every time I buy a game, I make sure I'm getting a boxed copy (stand-alone game) although I wonder if MS Flight Simulator X Deluxe Edition has to be activated thru the internet. I brought it last year (boxed, DVD-ROM copy in Best Buy) and when I first put it on my laptop, I don't remember ever needing an internet activation to play it. Then I took it off the PC (PC's drive C getting too full, needed bigger hard drive, so got a 500 GB external HD for laptop) put it on this drive instead of drive C, and I think it told me to activate it thru the internet. I hope the Perry Rhodan: Immortals of Terra and Overclocked arn't activated by internet (just ordered them via Amazon last night) as well as all these upcoming games that can be seen in JA's Upcoming Games section. Really, I think internet activation is dumb, don't you think? And what if, in the future, they make you pay for it? Id'd say crap, it makes me mad!
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| 24 JUL 2008 at 11:44pm |
DarleenIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | I hate downloading games online....
I think its a complete RIP OFF You don't own nothing...You will get in trouble for copying the game even if you bought it..
Also you still pay the same price...Which is a rip off....You don't have a hard copy ...You have nothing...
What a Rip Off
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| 25 JUL 2008 at 3:59pm |
ukpetdSpace Cadet
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By K515 (24 JUL 2008 11:33pm)
Really, I think internet activation is dumb, don't you think?
I agree completely.
I'm on dial-up, so have never tried downloading a game (imagine 2 days without dropping the line and internet blocked off by the download burden?)
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| 17 AUG 2008 at 12:43am |
antlerIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | Sherryah
This is well after your post but the answer remains true as it was when you wrote. Right here at Just Adventure you can buy most any game no matter where you live. The games ship from Interact and Dave the guy who runs the shop is very responsive and ships quickly. Though you are in Ireland and Interact in California international shipping for 1 game is Ten US dollars buy more than one the additional postage is four US dollars per each additional game. People in Europe tell me the games ship fairly fast. So just click on the "buy games" link on the home page here and order away. No need to download almost any game because it is not locally available.
For instance if you were to buy Everlight (preorder) and Art of Murder the pair would cost you $53.90 US. That's 19.95 X2 for the two games $10 shipping for the first game $4 for the second they ship international air mail. Oh an Dave answered on another site that in this case Art of Murder would ship at once while Everlight would ship when released. He does not hold the in stock and make you wait until the other releases. two separate shipments without additional cost. So for most games there is no reason to buy those overpriced and limited downloads.
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| 18 AUG 2008 at 4:01am |
MrLipidPrivate Detective
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Status : Offline | It may be because I've got broadband and it may be because I no longer get too worked up about not being able to curl my digits around a hard copy of a game, but I really like downloading games.
Hard to beat downloading the latest Nancy Drew for $6.99. Or anything else Big Fish Games carries. Join the Game Club and it's like a three-for-one sale every day of the week.
And I have found their technical support to be pretty decent.
That is all.
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| 18 AUG 2008 at 9:22am |
Lucien21Guild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Darleen (24 JUL 2008 11:44pm)
I hate downloading games online....
I think its a complete RIP OFF You don't own nothing...You will get in trouble for copying the game even if you bought it..
Also you still pay the same price...Which is a rip off....You don't have a hard copy ...You have nothing...
What a Rip Off
Where is the Rip-off?
The thing you are buying is the computer code that makes up the game that you play. You don't have nothing you have the exact same game and the exact same pleasure of playing it.
Getting it on CD you own the exact same program - just happens to come on a silver disc that costs about 2p or $0.02.
People get fooled by shiny plasic into thinking because I can see it and hold it that somehow it is more valuable.
The Disc is incidental and you can always burn the downloaded program onto a disc yourself if you are that bothered.
No rip-off involved.
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| 18 AUG 2008 at 3:02pm |
JKingSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Lucien21 (18 AUG 2008 9:22am)
The Disc is incidental and you can always burn the downloaded program onto a disc yourself if you are that bothered.
No rip-off involved.
Assuming you can, agreed. Sometimes it's non-obvious or forbidden outright. Buying a physical copy, however, does remove the burder from you to make sure you have a physical "backup".
You can't kill someone in a studio.
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| 18 AUG 2008 at 3:17pm |
SuperEdyPrivate Detective
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Status : Online | Besides you can sell a boxed copy on ebay at outrageous prices
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