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21 OCT 2002 at 11:26pm

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Do you find that you get attitude from some people (like store clerks or acquaintances) that adventure gaming is a childish hobby? Why is it that playing brainless shoot-em up games is cool, no matter how old you are, but playing a game where you actually have to think is for kids?

Do you think that it's mainly because we aren't following the masses? Or that people just don't understand what an adventure game is?

Anyway I was kind of just mulling this over.

What do you guys think?

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22 OCT 2002 at 1:06am

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I think most people just dont understand, and of course since they dont understand they dont know what they're missing.  
 

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22 OCT 2002 at 1:14am

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Attitude from a store Clerk - But, we're all on a first name basis...  I mean, I'm always in there looking at something - Hardware, Software - other toys...

But seriously - I've never gotten attitude as you describe.  I do have friends that have very specific likes and dislikes, but we've learned to get along.

The best part of "getting attitude" in my circle...  is finding the "just perfect moment" of returning it.   :

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22 OCT 2002 at 1:20am

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No, I never got attitude from store clerks, but then I buy most of my games online


I'd say giving you attitude for playing adventures shows an amusing lack of insight on the part of the overly smug person. Many adventures are definitely not for kids - unless the kids are really sophisticated
Some adventures can be played by kids, others IMO need an adult mind to be fully enjoyed. So yes, I think this just shows poor understanding of what an adventure game is.

Also I'm sure that if you made a survey, you'd discover that the average age of participants in this forum is far higher than of most (if not all) non-adventure gamers.

I guess this is a question to the moderators - do you know what the average age here is? You should, I know I entered that information when creating my forum account

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22 OCT 2002 at 1:44am

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Hi Michal!

If everyone would enter their age  
I could, indeed, get an average.  

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22 OCT 2002 at 1:47am

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Hi,

I don't ever get that attitude.  But maybe because where I buy most of my games know that I like more than just one category.  They are quick to let me know if there is a puzzle game I might like, action or  pure adventure or action/adventure plus knowing my dislikes, war games, strategy, flight simulations and sports and just senseless games like the Deer Hunter types.

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22 OCT 2002 at 1:51am

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Originally Posted By Forum Admin (22 OCT 2002 1:43am)
Hi Michal!

If everyone would enter their age  
I could, indeed, get an average.  


If at least 50% entered their age you could get a semi-meaningful figure... but I can see that if only a handful entered their age it'd be pointless to calculate an average.
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22 OCT 2002 at 2:03am

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No I don't get attitude.
Sometimes I get apologies.

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22 OCT 2002 at 2:06am

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I may get stoned for saying this, but I think we GIVE attitude FAR more than we get it.    We adventure gamers regularly put down other genres, and worse, the PLAYERS of those other genres.  Like they're all idiots and we're the brainy ones.  It's unkind, and what's more, untrue.

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22 OCT 2002 at 2:32am

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I just get blank looks 'cause they never know what I'm talking about when I ask for "adventure games".
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22 OCT 2002 at 4:12am

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Hi all,
I'm middle aged and I don't know very many gamers, much less adventure gamers.   Of the few gamers I know, some are adventure gamers, and some focus on other types of games.   No one gives me any "attitude".    Most of us don't have anything to prove anymore, so there's a "live and let live" attitude about people's hobbies.  People are sometimes interested that I play games,  even if they don't play them themselves.  It's considered to be a rather "normal" hobby, more so than some of my other hobbies (hey, don't get any ideas here, nothing too weird, just a big time interest in non-commercial contemporary art - you know, the stuff in museums and art galleries).    

Do you mean, does anyone in the stores give me any grief about adventure games?  Well, no, because I don't ask my local electronic stores to stock adventure games.  Sometimes I ask them if they are getting a particular game, and they look it up for me, as I carefully spell it.   I never push them to get anything, because I never thought it would do any good.  If the game isn't there, I try to order it from other sources.  Generally, the big electronic store I go to will get adventure games, but it's spotty.  They will get a game if it is very hyped up, but won't get all the adventure games.  Sometimes they will surprise you though, and get a game you never thought they would get.


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22 OCT 2002 at 4:28am

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TOTALLY DUDE,

People always want to follow other people because they are too ignorant to not follow them.  That's why no one ever knows how to deal with Adventure gamers; they think it's like a fluke in the gaming industry.  Also dumbass software stores ignore the Adventues too.  Rarely have I been to my local EBs and have one of the clerk dudes know WHAT an Adventure is, let alone know if they have any in stock.  Most are like, "
UDE do you play Counterstrike and UT?"  And I say, "No DUDE, because those get friggen boring after a week, and Adventures don't."
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22 OCT 2002 at 5:13am

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I'm sure glad I don't shop where you all shop - I just don't get that kind of response from anyone I deal with and the shelves are always stocked.

Maybe it's because (and I wasn't kidding) - we're all basically on a first name basis.  I mean how can you not be when you're in the store at least once a week?

When I bought the Watchmaker and Syberia the guy behind the counter was telling me (in his own words) how cool the games were.  On the other hand he mentioned that when I bought Alice, Undying and RTCW too.  Hmmm...

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22 OCT 2002 at 5:24am

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Never got attitude.

Normally, the clerk will either be silent, because they don't recodnise the game, or they mention how difficult that kind of game is and that I must be good to be able to play them.

So no hassle.
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22 OCT 2002 at 7:02am

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I've been fortunate enough, thus far, not to have encountered attitude...

/me knocks on head

... tho' I've certainly encountered ignorance of the type already mentioned in earlier responses here.  I only got into adventures (again) recently, and was fortunate enough to do a lot of reading before I started collecting.  Consequently, I found communities like the adventure newsgroup and these forums - among others - that consist of gamers as enthusiastic about adventures as I, before I ever encountered any apathy toward the genre.  That sorta acts like a raincoat when I go out into the Big Bag World


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22 OCT 2002 at 1:18pm

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I get attitude from people for using a computer.

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They get attitude from me for being apolitical uneducated uncreative mindless idiots.  

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22 OCT 2002 at 2:28pm

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No attitude...just blank stares from some of the clerks at the store. But they still stock a fairly good selection, so somebody there knows about them...

There's a small gamer "clique" on my block, but they are primarily FPS'ers. When I discuss an adventure game at the backyard BBQ's, it's like I am discussing Advanced Physics...I just get the cursory nods and blank stares, then they go on to discuss the "gore factor" in the latest shoot-em-up.   Sheeesh...



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22 OCT 2002 at 3:53pm

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bistro,

That's really the kind of thing I've run into most often. If you're not talking about blowing up zombies and how much blood there is in a game, people just give you a blank stare.

Also, to be fair to game store clerks, it's more from other gamers and non-gamers than clerks. It seems everyone, gamer or not, understands FPS games and just don't get adventure games.
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22 OCT 2002 at 4:11pm

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Originally Posted By Snowman (22 OCT 2002 3:53pm)
bistro,
It seems everyone, gamer or not, understands FPS games and just don't get adventure games.


To drive that one home (or to the ground), I pointed out the Syberia demo to a FPS buddy of mine (lives next door). He tried it, but had a heck of a time figuring out he had to pick up an item with the mouse--i.e. the key on the hotel desk. No kidding....he was so used to just running over the item for automatic pickup, that the concept was "odd" to him. He also had the audacity to ask me if Kate gets to use any weapons....


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22 OCT 2002 at 4:25pm

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That reminds me of the time I was showing Fallout 2 (great game) to one of my friends. I was in a town, and he asked me why I wasn't shooting all those people  
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22 OCT 2002 at 4:45pm

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Originally Posted By JonasKyratzes (22 OCT 2002 4:25pm)
That reminds me of the time I was showing Fallout 2 (great game) to one of my friends. I was in a town, and he asked me why I wasn't shooting all those people  
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Of course the fun part is that you can shoot them if you really want to

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22 OCT 2002 at 4:56pm

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Yeah, I know. That's what I did  
, and then the dog killed me  
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Gotta love Fallout!
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22 OCT 2002 at 8:55pm
Deleted UserWell,it depends on where i go and buy my games. One store, the owner plays various games..I believe a fanatic of games. She was the one who introduced me to TLJ...God Bless Her! So now , i stick to that particular store and buy my games.

And there was this one time, i was asking whether the game i wanted had arrived or not, and i got a rude NO and I DONT KNOW. It's like, whats his problem anyway.

Some of my friends do say im childish and wasting my time because i tend to spend all my time in front of my pc playing adventure games.

Its not resonable for them to say that. Playing adventure games is a hobby. People tend to do other stuffs for hours and hours too. Golf,tennis....bla bla bla....

22 OCT 2002 at 9:28pm
Deleted UserMy friends like to read books.

When I explain about adventure games I just tell them that I'm the key person in one those books and I actualy can interact with the story.

Some are very interested (tell me more, sir Funkenstein, tell me more), others give me that blanc gaze. I help myself, by taking a rootbeer out of their fridge.


22 OCT 2002 at 10:40pm

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Attitude no, but I will never forget the look  
 on one clerk's face the day he realized the 8 games piled on the right arm of the 40 something woman standing if front of him were all for ME ME ME  


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