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| 9 JUL 2006 at 2:28am |
IviniaGuild Master
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Status : Offline | What do you mean? The constant running back and forth to see what flipping a switch resulted in?
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| 9 JUL 2006 at 2:47am |
SusanGuild Master
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Status : Offline | You mean there's no sound effect followed by Nancy Drew saying something to indicate that there's something nearby you should investigate? Who designed this game?
Hmmm
I miss my Bubba: 1986 - 2006.
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| 9 JUL 2006 at 11:44am |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By Pastor Disaster (9 JUL 2006 1:04am)
Is it just me, or is Schizm/Mysterious Journey in DESPERATE need of a zip mode?!
Yup. The backtracking is horrendous.
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| 9 JUL 2006 at 2:47pm |
Pastor DisasterJourneyman
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Status : Online | I have started this game four times now. Each time the backtracking causes me to give up. And yet it is not mentioned once in the "A" review here! Heck, how about just being able to skip a previously-viewed cutscene?!
Dyslexics wonder why there isn't a word that means the same thing as "cinnamon."
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| 9 JUL 2006 at 8:13pm |
tombraider333Intergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | Nope- it's not just you. I've put the game aside for that reason, and also because I can't remeber my trig and calculus well enough to do the puzzles on my own. sheesh!!! You have to be a mathematical genius!!!
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| 10 JUL 2006 at 2:27am |
jalexSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | I enoyed that one a lot better than Mysterious Journey II. That was the one I gave up on. I liked the puzzles and the story and was quite dissapointed in the second one when I found out it was nothing but running from one bad puzzle to another.
I guess I was lucky because I don't remember too much back tracking.
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| 11 JUL 2006 at 1:30am |
BazzaLBPrivate Detective
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By jalex (10 JUL 2006 2:27am)
I enoyed that one a lot better than Mysterious Journey II. That was the one I gave up on. I liked the puzzles and the story and was quite dissapointed in the second one when I found out it was nothing but running from one bad puzzle to another.
I guess I was lucky because I don't remember too much back tracking.
I don't remember much back tracking either!? Mind you, I finished Mysterious Journey II without too many quibbles either. But it was quite some time ago.
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| 11 JUL 2006 at 9:33pm |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By tombraider333 (9 JUL 2006 8:13pm)
Nope- it's not just you. I've put the game aside for that reason, and also because I can't remeber my trig and calculus well enough to do the puzzles on my own. sheesh!!! You have to be a mathematical genius!!!
The only math is simple arithmetic and the Pythagorean Theorem.
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| 11 JUL 2006 at 9:57pm |
AndromusGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Fickfack (11 JUL 2006 9:32pm)
Originally Posted By tombraider333 (9 JUL 2006 8:13pm)
Nope- it's not just you. I've put the game aside for that reason, and also because I can't remeber my trig and calculus well enough to do the puzzles on my own. sheesh!!! You have to be a mathematical genius!!!
The only math is simple arithmetic and the Pythagorean Theorem.
Really? That's it? I love puzzle games, but I've been avoiding this game because I keep hearing about how the puzzles are math based and really hard, and I'm terrible at math. This doesn't sound too bad. I take it "simple arthimetic" means knowing basic algebra should be enough?
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| 11 JUL 2006 at 10:40pm |
Jenny100Guild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Andromus (11 JUL 2006 9:56pm)
Originally Posted By Fickfack (11 JUL 2006 9:32pm)
Originally Posted By tombraider333 (9 JUL 2006 8:13pm)
Nope- it's not just you. I've put the game aside for that reason, and also because I can't remeber my trig and calculus well enough to do the puzzles on my own. sheesh!!! You have to be a mathematical genius!!!
The only math is simple arithmetic and the Pythagorean Theorem.
Really? That's it? I love puzzle games, but I've been avoiding this game because I keep hearing about how the puzzles are math based and really hard, and I'm terrible at math. This doesn't sound too bad. I take it "simple arthimetic" means knowing basic algebra should be enough?
And geometry, as in how to compare congruent triangles and the ratios of their sides. And how to use other bases besides base 10 (of course you can use an online calculator for conversions if you can't do it on paper). Also alien symbols are used instead of Arabic numbers, which can confuse people.
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| 12 JUL 2006 at 1:32am |
SusanGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Andromus (11 JUL 2006 9:56pm)
I take it "simple arthimetic" means knowing basic algebra should be enough?
So what good was that calculus class if it's not even going to be used to play adventure games?
I miss my Bubba: 1986 - 2006.
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| 12 JUL 2006 at 2:10am |
AndromusGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Susan (12 JUL 2006 1:32am)
Originally Posted By Andromus (11 JUL 2006 9:56pm)
I take it "simple arthimetic" means knowing basic algebra should be enough?
So what good was that calculus class if it's not even going to be used to play adventure games?
I wouldn't know. I limped through the required two years of algebra and got out as soon as I could, more than happy not to have to try anything like calculus. :
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| 12 JUL 2006 at 7:44am |
CarolineJA+ Overseer
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Status : Offline | I resorted to a w/t with Schizm I. The dual character bit annoyed me. [spoiler midtext]Having to swap genders and complete the same action twice pissed me off big time.
However, I still bought Schizm II and enjoyed that one considerably more. It had none of the annoyances I'd hated in the first game.
Plod on Pastor and then play No.2.
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| 13 JUL 2006 at 2:53am |
Pastor DisasterJourneyman
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Status : Online | Thanks for the encouragement, Caroline! I do have II sitting on my shelf, waiting for me to finish I. I know it isn't necessary--actually if I remember right, the storylines aren't much related at all, right? But I feel obligated to finish I before II.
Dyslexics wonder why there isn't a word that means the same thing as "cinnamon."
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| 13 JUL 2006 at 9:40am |
MysticFallsIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | [size=14]I originally played Schizm because an epal said it was "too difficult" and she could never finish it, despite using a walkthrough. I enjoyed Schizm, despite it being a 1st person, puzzle game. I didn't even need to ask for a save for the so-called difficult puzzles. I bought Mysterious Journey2 and finally got through the lazer puzzle by myself and the horrible fog thingie and all the rest of it, but I got to a puzzle that was timed and gave up! This has reinforced my dislike for 1st person puzzle games! I just do not like them. A game to me is supposed to be a fun experience, if it becomes a chore, write if off as $x of wasted time.
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| 13 JUL 2006 at 6:37pm |
Jenny100Guild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By MysticFalls (13 JUL 2006 9:39am)
I bought Mysterious Journey2 and finally got through the lazer puzzle by myself and the horrible fog thingie and all the rest of it, but I got to a puzzle that was timed and gave up! This has reinforced my dislike for 1st person puzzle games! I just do not like them. A game to me is supposed to be a fun experience, if it becomes a chore, write if off as $x of wasted time.
Mysterious Journey 2 did not have any timed puzzles. You're probably thinking of a puzzle where it's the order in which you make your stops that matters. It looks timed, but isn't.
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| 13 JUL 2006 at 10:12pm |
Pastor DisasterJourneyman
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By MysticFalls (13 JUL 2006 9:39am)
[size=14]I originally played Schizm because an epal said it was "too difficult" and she could never finish it, despite using a walkthrough. I enjoyed Schizm, despite it being a 1st person, puzzle game. I didn't even need to ask for a save for the so-called difficult puzzles. I bought Mysterious Journey2 and finally got through the lazer puzzle by myself and the horrible fog thingie and all the rest of it, but I got to a puzzle that was timed and gave up! This has reinforced my dislike for 1st person puzzle games! I just do not like them. A game to me is supposed to be a fun experience, if it becomes a chore, write if off as $x of wasted time.
And see I dislike 3rd person games for the same reason. The chore of combining inventory together in random ways and "using" them on hotspots at random is a chore to me. Oh, I'm not saying that's everyone's experience. I just have a great deal of difficulty thinking "laterally."
This is probably why I have so much more fun playing a game for the second time...
Dyslexics wonder why there isn't a word that means the same thing as "cinnamon."
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| 15 JUL 2006 at 3:53pm |
CarolineJA+ Overseer
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As a result of this thread I've spent a happy evening replaying Schizm II. I've never replayed a game before. except Obsidian). This is a lovely game. You'll like this one. The puzzles are fun but I'm too tired to work out this darned bridge.
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| 15 JUL 2006 at 4:49pm |
jalexSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By MysticFalls (13 JUL 2006 9:39am)
[size=14]I originally played Schizm because an epal said it was "too difficult" and she could never finish it, despite using a walkthrough. I enjoyed Schizm, despite it being a 1st person, puzzle game. I didn't even need to ask for a save for the so-called difficult puzzles. I bought Mysterious Journey2 and finally got through the lazer puzzle by myself and the horrible fog thingie and all the rest of it, but I got to a puzzle that was timed and gave up! This has reinforced my dislike for 1st person puzzle games! I just do not like them. A game to me is supposed to be a fun experience, if it becomes a chore, write if off as $x of wasted time.
I agree. Puzzles are not my favorite part of adventure games. I enjoy some of them but if they are too hard or timed I loose interest very fast. The only kind of puzzles I like are inventory based. If I think a game has more puzzles or action than story I don't buy it. It's probably just me but I think of some puzzles as board games and I hate board games of all types.
I liked Schizm 1 because it had a pretty good story with all the puzzles but to me Shizm 2 had no story at all that I could find and if it did it must have not started until after I gave up on the puzzles.
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| 19 JUL 2006 at 4:46am |
tombraider333Intergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | Well, I guess it depends on what kinds of math you find simple. Errr, yeah- you need trig (comparing measurements via congruent triangles- did it over 20 years ago, and can't remember all the formulas). Also some other stuff. I know my dad would think it was all easy too, but for me... I'd have to pull out a pile of math books and reteach myself all this stuff- for a computer game? Like I said- I guess it depends on your math background and ability. I'm glad that I don't seem to be the only one in this situation with the math thing, but I'm also glad there are others who are better at it than I am- otherwise whose walkthrough would help me get through the game?!?
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