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28 JAN 2003 at 12:44pm

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Guybrush's topic got me thinking... there is one riddle I have seen in movies, tv, and possibly even games. Somebody tell me how to figure it out.

To use the movie Labyrinth as the example:
You have 2 doors with 2 guards.
One door leads to the castle at the center of the labyrinth.
The other door leads to certain death.
One guard always tells the truth.
The other guard always lies.
How do you determine which door leads to the castle?


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28 JAN 2003 at 1:19pm

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You mean you want the explanation, not the solution?
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28 JAN 2003 at 1:26pm

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Originally Posted By MichalN (28 JAN 2003 1:19pm)
You mean you want the explanation, not the solution?


Both, actually. Are there varying ways with coming up with the solution, also.

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28 JAN 2003 at 1:30pm

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Originally Posted By Valadmin (28 JAN 2003 1:26pm)
Both, actually. Are there varying ways with coming up with the solution, also.

There may be slightly varying solutions but I expect they all work along the same lines. Right now I'm too sleepy to write a coherent explanation, but if no one else steps up to the plate, I'll do it in about five hours or so. Now I need to get back to sleep

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28 JAN 2003 at 1:32pm

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You ask the guard that lies which door would the guard that tells the truth say it's the one... then you enter the other!

You have gotten the attention of the mysterious lady. She turns to face you. Her face is devoid of any flesh. You are frozen with horror as she begins ripping your body into a bloody mess.


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28 JAN 2003 at 5:42pm

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Originally Posted By Aya_Brea (28 JAN 2003 1:32pm)
You ask the guard that lies which door would the guard that tells the truth say it's the one... then you enter the other!

But you don't know which one lies :

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28 JAN 2003 at 5:44pm

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Originally Posted By MichalN (28 JAN 2003 5:42pm)

But you don't know which one lies :


Exactly. Get to explainin' Michal! Or do we want to see what Aya has to say now?

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28 JAN 2003 at 5:50pm

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Alright. Now I'm almost fully awake (it's 10:39am) so let's see what I can do.

The solution is asking either of the guards a question like this: "If I asked your colleague which door leads to the castle, which door would he point me to?" Then you promptly enter the other door. The trick is that with a question formulated like this, both guards will answer the same. And here's why:

If you ask the truth telling guard, he knows that the other one would lie and point you to the wrong door. And because he tells the truth, that's exactly where he will point you.

If you ask the lying guard, he knows the other one would point you to the right door. But because he lies, he'll point you to the wrong one.

So the key here is essentially getting the answers from both guards at once. Regardless of which guard you ask, there will be one truth and one lie in the answer and the answer will always be the same.
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28 JAN 2003 at 5:52pm

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You have to choose your words carefully, but here's how it works.

Ask either of the two: Which door would the other will tell me to use?

It doesn't matter which guard you address.

The liar will respond: The other will tell you to use my door.

The truthful guard will respond: The other will tell you to use his door .

In either case - always use the opposite door.

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28 JAN 2003 at 5:53pm

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Oops -  


Sorry MichalN - we just missed each others posts...

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28 JAN 2003 at 5:56pm

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This riddle has always made me crazy but you guys explained it wonderfully!!

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28 JAN 2003 at 11:39pm

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i remember having seen this riddle years ago... i didn't remember the exact solution though, only that you asked what the other would say and that you entered the opposite door!

You have gotten the attention of the mysterious lady. She turns to face you. Her face is devoid of any flesh. You are frozen with horror as she begins ripping your body into a bloody mess.


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