| 19 NOV 2005 at 4:49pm |
ElfstoneGuild Master
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Chris. (19 NOV 2005 4:40pm)
I don't know how anyone could have done those breathing bits on their own! You'd need at least three hands to do that...
Left-right-mouse buttons to move - no shift or whatever, because running is not an option, anyway - and A,D /left-right/ whatever it is for you to keep the balance.
No third hand. I checked. :
[b]playing[/b]: Destination Treasure Island (done in two sittings, but it's nice), Syberia (ho-hum), Dracula: Last Sanctuary (on hold)&&[b]reading[/b]: even more study papers&&[b]listening to[/b]: [url=http://www.last.fm/user/Brax82/]this and that[/url], plus [url=http://www.musicovery.com/]Musicovery[/url]&&[b]TV favorites[/b]: (currently) Pushing Daisies, Chuck, Journeyman (cancelled! grrr...), Heroes&& all-time) 24, Stargate SG1, X-Files, Lost, House
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| 19 NOV 2005 at 4:57pm |
Chris.Schattenjger
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Status : Online | You need to use the arrow keys to move forwards and backwards too.
...not to be confused with Keira Knightley
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| 19 NOV 2005 at 5:19pm |
ElfstoneGuild Master
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Chris. (19 NOV 2005 4:57pm)
You need to use the arrow keys to move forwards and backwards too.
Read again.
[b]playing[/b]: Destination Treasure Island (done in two sittings, but it's nice), Syberia (ho-hum), Dracula: Last Sanctuary (on hold)&&[b]reading[/b]: even more study papers&&[b]listening to[/b]: [url=http://www.last.fm/user/Brax82/]this and that[/url], plus [url=http://www.musicovery.com/]Musicovery[/url]&&[b]TV favorites[/b]: (currently) Pushing Daisies, Chuck, Journeyman (cancelled! grrr...), Heroes&& all-time) 24, Stargate SG1, X-Files, Lost, House
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| 20 NOV 2005 at 10:10pm |
AyaGrand Inquisitor
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Status : Offline | surely no one can use a gamepad with one hand... the game i guess is playable with one hand using the keyboard, as long as you are very quick switching from the arrow keys, to the numeric arrows... the only part that would be really hard to do with one hand is the breathing part (which appears twice)... but that's doable too... control the breathing, move a little, control breathing etc... it would take forever, but it is doable
btw, i just had the UNpleasure of seeing the game on ps2... one word: BARF! i think it's time for the good old ps2 to rest in peace (and finally start releasing all games on pc too >)... i also found using the gamepad way more uncomfortable than the kbd & mouse
You have gotten the attention of the mysterious lady. She turns to face you. Her face is devoid of any flesh. You are frozen with horror as she begins ripping your body into a bloody mess.
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| 22 NOV 2005 at 5:33am |
| Deleted User | Thanks for the explanation about the controls requiring both hands.
I wanted to play this but I guess I can’t, not unless I learn to use my feet, too
Oh well, as a 2nd Choice I bought And Then There Were None and just installed it- even if itis3rd person, Elfstone
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| 22 NOV 2005 at 7:33am |
RobDSorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Online | Left-right-mouse buttons to move - no shift or whatever, because running is not an option, anyway - and A,D /left-right/ whatever it is for you to keep the balance.
No third hand. I checked.
There is key combo to run (right shift). I just played the demo about four times trying
to get the hang of the controls. I was able to get out of the diner and run down the
block across the street. My guess is that I could get out of the neighborhood without
getting caught by getting into the cab. But when I walk up to the cab I can't get in. I must
be moving the mouse wrong. Is it possible not to get caught?
A couple of questions.
What does PAR mean in the controls option menu?
How exactly are you supposed to move the mouse when you see the bouncing
white ball at the top of the screen? Are you supposed to move it up/down, in a circle, or what?
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| 22 NOV 2005 at 2:29pm |
AyaGrand Inquisitor
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By RobD (22 NOV 2005 7:32am)
There is key combo to run (right shift). I just played the demo about four times trying
to get the hang of the controls. I was able to get out of the diner and run down the
block across the street. My guess is that I could get out of the neighborhood without
getting caught by getting into the cab. But when I walk up to the cab I can't get in. I must
be moving the mouse wrong. Is it possible not to get caught?
you can enter the taxi... read below about using the mouse!
A couple of questions.
What does PAR mean in the controls option menu?
How exactly are you supposed to move the mouse when you see the bouncing
white ball at the top of the screen? Are you supposed to move it up/down, in a circle, or what?
how did you manage to get out of the diner if you don't know how to use the mouse? or did you leave the body and the blood and everything in the bathroom untouched? anyway, when the little white thingy appears at the top, there's a small line showing you which way to move the mouse... sometimes there are more things to do than one (esp during dialog) and each thing corresponds to a movement... later on some movements will be more complicated, needing the mouse not to be just moved in one direction (climbed the fence yet ivinia?! )
You have gotten the attention of the mysterious lady. She turns to face you. Her face is devoid of any flesh. You are frozen with horror as she begins ripping your body into a bloody mess.
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| 22 NOV 2005 at 3:32pm |
ElfstoneGuild Master
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Status : Online | Aya, it's not possible to leave the bathroom without knowing about that special mouse control.
@RobD
I think you misinterpreted my comment. I know that you run with shift (left or right), but I was talking about the breathing sequence in which you won't be able to run, anyway.
@Tkamba
You are a funny guy. Two 3rd person adventures right after you told us that you won't touch them.
[b]playing[/b]: Destination Treasure Island (done in two sittings, but it's nice), Syberia (ho-hum), Dracula: Last Sanctuary (on hold)&&[b]reading[/b]: even more study papers&&[b]listening to[/b]: [url=http://www.last.fm/user/Brax82/]this and that[/url], plus [url=http://www.musicovery.com/]Musicovery[/url]&&[b]TV favorites[/b]: (currently) Pushing Daisies, Chuck, Journeyman (cancelled! grrr...), Heroes&& all-time) 24, Stargate SG1, X-Files, Lost, House
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| 22 NOV 2005 at 4:03pm |
IviniaGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Aya (22 NOV 2005 2:28pm)
(climbed the fence yet ivinia?! )
Heck no. Haven't touched the game since. Been hooked on Voyage, Brothers in Arms, just finished Shadow Ops, and am working on my own titles. [smiley=devil_smiley_grintail.gif]
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| 22 NOV 2005 at 5:08pm |
RobDSorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Online | how did you manage to get out of the diner if you don't know how to use the mouse? or did you leave the body and the blood and everything in the bathroom untouched?
My first thought was just to get the hell out of there. How else would you play it.
Trying to move the body or cleaning up the blood seems to me to be a waste of time.
I was trying to figure out the controls anyway.
My third time thru the scene I finally got out the bathroom door by moving the
mouse up and down. I didn't see any other lines. And btw I did finally get into the taxi.
I still don't know what PAR means in the control menu. ???
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| 22 NOV 2005 at 6:36pm |
AyaGrand Inquisitor
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By RobD (22 NOV 2005 5:07pm)
I still don't know what PAR means in the control menu. ???
par? i don't remember that... if the game would run without the dvd in the drive i would run it right now really quick to remember... hate it when they ask for the disk... >
You have gotten the attention of the mysterious lady. She turns to face you. Her face is devoid of any flesh. You are frozen with horror as she begins ripping your body into a bloody mess.
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| 22 NOV 2005 at 7:27pm |
The Terror of the Wolf part 3Schattenjger
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Status : Online | I finished the game last week, two days after buying it. For a game that short, get it second hand or under £20.
Saying that, if you can get it for £20, it's worth every penny. It's a magnificent game which I've thoroughly enjoyed. One of the best I've played in a long, long time.
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| 22 NOV 2005 at 7:32pm |
Chris.Schattenjger
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By RobD (22 NOV 2005 7:32am)
What does PAR mean in the controls option menu?
Physical Action Reaction (the "Dance Dance Revolution" bits). You can have the symbols, telling you what buttons to press, in the middle of the screen or at the bottom.
...not to be confused with Keira Knightley
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| 22 NOV 2005 at 7:38pm |
CrapstormJourneyman
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Status : Online | Man, this game sounds super-retarded.
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| 22 NOV 2005 at 9:21pm |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By Crapstorm (22 NOV 2005 7:38pm)
Man, this game sounds super-retarded.
It's not! It's very innovative and as far as the storytelling goes it's a great piece of work. It just doesn't reach all the way there, but deserves credit for the effort.
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| 22 NOV 2005 at 9:26pm |
RobDSorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Online | Physical Action Reaction (the "ance Dance Revolution" bits). You can have the symbols, telling you what buttons to press, in the middle of the screen or at the bottom.
Ah, thanks for that. I wish there was something in the demo that would give me an
idea of how that works. Or is there?
@Wolfboy
Yeah, if it's short I think I'm going to wait. I can pick it up for about $31 here in the states
but it's radically different than anything I've played. I love the cinematic feel to it though.
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| 23 NOV 2005 at 5:40am |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By Elfstone (22 NOV 2005 3:32pm)
@Tkamba
You are a funny guy. Two 3rd person adventures right after you told us that you won't touch them.
I know! But there's not much choice out on the shelfs lately other than 3rd persons, having played all the first persons available.
...well there's Traitor's Gate 2 I have loaded I can jump into. That and Lighthouse, Rama, Pilgrim, Secrets of Alumut, all sitting on my credenza unplayed
Guess I should play my inventory list first, eh?
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| 23 NOV 2005 at 12:49pm |
Chris.Schattenjger
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By RobD (22 NOV 2005 9:26pm)
Ah, thanks for that. I wish there was something in the demo that would give me an idea of how that works. Or is there?
No, they didn't put that in the demo. They should have done, considering how often you have to do it in the game.
...not to be confused with Keira Knightley
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| 23 NOV 2005 at 4:14pm |
IviniaGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Well, apparently taking a break from the game helped. I finally climbed over the fence! Actually did it the first time, then was able to do it several times aftwards with no problems - go figure.
In the library now...
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| 23 NOV 2005 at 4:34pm |
ElfstoneGuild Master
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Ivinia, God of Confusion (23 NOV 2005 4:13pm)
Well, apparently taking a break from the game helped. I finally climbed over the fence! Actually did it the first time, then was able to do it several times aftwards with no problems - go figure.
In the library now...
I had trouble with climbing a pipe or something, because it went quite high up. I figured that you can do it best if you swoosh the mouse quickly over to the left or right and then just move it up in a slight curve without any regard for stopping precisely at the top of the curve until Lucas climbs a step. If you try to softly time the move you will most likely fail.
I think nobody will understand what I was just talking about.
[b]playing[/b]: Destination Treasure Island (done in two sittings, but it's nice), Syberia (ho-hum), Dracula: Last Sanctuary (on hold)&&[b]reading[/b]: even more study papers&&[b]listening to[/b]: [url=http://www.last.fm/user/Brax82/]this and that[/url], plus [url=http://www.musicovery.com/]Musicovery[/url]&&[b]TV favorites[/b]: (currently) Pushing Daisies, Chuck, Journeyman (cancelled! grrr...), Heroes&& all-time) 24, Stargate SG1, X-Files, Lost, House
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| 23 NOV 2005 at 10:59pm |
RobDSorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Online | No, they didn't put that in the demo. They should have done, considering how often you have to do it in the game.
Yes they did! I played thru it a couple more times. It appears when you move the
body. I even got rid of the knife. I love it!!
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| 3 DEC 2005 at 12:01am |
tmalusIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | Some suggestions on game control: I set the main navigation keys to WASD and the secondary to the arrow keys. During gameplay, my left hand stays on WASD while my right hand on the mouse. During the Dance Dance revolution sequence the right hand is able to move to the arrow keys quite easily since they are separated from other keys on the keyboard. I find this combination quite satisfying.
And indeed, once you've mastered the "dance dance revolution" there isn't much game left since the "adventure" elements are fairly easy, and therefore it's more a movie than a game. Still, a truely wonderful experience.
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| 3 DEC 2005 at 2:02am |
The Terror of the Wolf part 3Schattenjger
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Status : Online | It's a sign of a really excellent storyline in a game when the players will do their best to overcome difficult control systems so that they can continue and enjoy the game
It gets an A- from me. Very groovy.
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| 3 DEC 2005 at 9:32am |
RobDSorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Online | There's another very interesting thing about the game that I don't think I've ever seen before.
The player makes decisions in real time based on knowledge that he normally wouldn't have in
real life. For instance, after a certain length of time in the bathroom a small window inset
appears and you will see the cop get up and walk down the aisle towards the bathroom door. This
gives you the chance to drop whatever you're doing and leave immediately. Otherwise, you'll
be caught.
The same thing happens once outside the diner. You hear the cop talking to the patrons and you know
exactly when he calls for backup. So you know exactly how much time you have to get out of the area.
A very unusual design. [smiley=thumbup.gif]
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