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| 18 JAN 2003 at 2:27am |
InlandAZGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Could it be a cell - with bars - that could be reached through? You never stated it was a solid door.
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| 18 JAN 2003 at 2:49am |
InlandAZGuild Master
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Status : Offline | It might not be your solution - but, I'm going to stick to it.
It's a prison cell, and the key has been left on the outside of the door. I reach through, grab the key, and open the door without damaging the room.
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| 18 JAN 2003 at 3:09am |
Agustín CordesGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Well, here's an easier one: picklock the door using the hairpin.
Duh!
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| 18 JAN 2003 at 3:12am |
InlandAZGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Well, here's an easier one: picklock the door using the hairpin.
Duh!
But it's an electronic key lock - You can't do that with a hair pin.... Can you?
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| 18 JAN 2003 at 3:19am |
Agustín CordesGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By InlandAZ (18 JAN 2003 3:12am)
But it's an electronic key lock - You can't do that with a hair pin.... Can you?
Of course I can - I make a short-circuit
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| 18 JAN 2003 at 3:25am |
InlandAZGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Rael (18 JAN 2003 3:19am)
Of course I can - I make a short-circuit
You may be onto something... Could the glass be used as some sort on insulator? If so, Belinda is misleading us... Hmm... what's the paper for I wonder?
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| 18 JAN 2003 at 3:30am |
BelindaSchattenjger
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Status : Online | ok.......you have to use the newspaper and paperclip to get the key.....no glass or bar doors.........if you can't figure that out, then I will tell you all........
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| 18 JAN 2003 at 3:36am |
Agustín CordesGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Woha, woha, let's check this again: the key is inserted in the door (from the other side)? Because the only solution (using paper and pin) is the first one Michal said.
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| 18 JAN 2003 at 3:38am |
InlandAZGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Rael (18 JAN 2003 3:36am)
Woha, woha, let's check this again: the key is inserted in the door (from the other side)? Because the only solution (using paper and pin) is the first one Michal said.
Ditto that -
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| 18 JAN 2003 at 3:46am |
BelindaSchattenjger
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Status : Online | No, the key is on the floor.........
See, when you read these in the book, they don't tell you everything, until you read the answer.
You guys give up?
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| 18 JAN 2003 at 3:47am |
InlandAZGuild Master
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Status : Offline | not yet
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| 18 JAN 2003 at 4:00am |
MichalNGrand Inquisitor
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Belinda48 (18 JAN 2003 3:46am)
No, the key is on the floor.........
See, when you read these in the book, they don't tell you everything, until you read the answer.
Again, how do we know? If we can't see through the door and there is no one around to tell us, how can we know that there's a key on the other side? That's what I don't get.
I forgot my sig.
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| 18 JAN 2003 at 4:04am |
BelindaSchattenjger
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Status : Online | Michal! quit being so techical........just assume the key is on the other side of the door, didn't I say that in the beginning.......? The key is on the OTHER SIDE of the door. I'm about ready to give up on this one myself......and give yas a new one........ :-/
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| 18 JAN 2003 at 4:06am |
InlandAZGuild Master
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Status : Offline | If we can't see through the door
That a big assumption I think...
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| 18 JAN 2003 at 4:07am |
Agustín CordesGuild Master
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Status : Offline | But Michal is right - we could spend AGES hunting for that key! More info is definitely needed.
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| 18 JAN 2003 at 4:10am |
MichalNGrand Inquisitor
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Belinda48 (18 JAN 2003 4:04am)
Michal! quit being so techical...
I'm not trying to be hard on you... I just think it's pretty unfair the way this puzzle is set up. I mean if I really was locked up there, I wouldn't have to ask, but I'm not, so I do
I forgot my sig.
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| 18 JAN 2003 at 4:11am |
InlandAZGuild Master
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Status : Offline | But Michal is right - we could spend AGES hunting for that key! More info is definitely needed.
One more day (or so) - This can't be all that difficult...
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| 18 JAN 2003 at 4:21am |
BelindaSchattenjger
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Status : Online | ok, i can't let you guys go on like this........in the answer section for this, it says.....If you are sufficiently ingenious you will have discovered a number of ways to solve these problems. If you have discovered better ones, then accept their congrats and set out adventuring with complete confidence in your ability to cope imaginatively with whatever emergencies you discover.......Here is what MENSA's answer was.....
Slide a sheet of newspaper under the door, and then unfold the hairpin and use it to push the key on to the newspaper. Pull the newspaper and key back under the door, take the key and unlock the door.
Ready for more??
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| 18 JAN 2003 at 4:24am |
InlandAZGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Slide a sheet of newspaper under the door, and then unfold the hairpin and use it to push the key on to the newspaper. Pull the newspaper and key back under the door, take the key and unlock the door.
But... But... But... This was MichalN's answer - as I read it...
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| 18 JAN 2003 at 4:26am |
Agustín CordesGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Belinda, you misunderstood the problem!! The key, in the first instance, is inserted in the door. Then it's on the floor... after you push it with the pin!
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| 18 JAN 2003 at 4:27am |
BelindaSchattenjger
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By InlandAZ (18 JAN 2003 4:23am)
But... But... But... This was MichalN's answer - as I read it...
ALMOST it was......he said he'd 'push' the key out with the hairpin.....
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| 18 JAN 2003 at 4:29am |
BelindaSchattenjger
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Status : Online | you guys!!!! I typed it exactly the way it was in the book....it said 'the key is on the other side of the door'............. UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 18 JAN 2003 at 4:30am |
Agustín CordesGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Belinda48 (18 JAN 2003 4:26am)
ALMOST it was......he said he'd 'push' the key out with the hairpin.....
Precisely!! That's the solution you just read! How do you want us to push out the key? We don't have fingernails!
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| 18 JAN 2003 at 4:34am |
Agustín CordesGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Rael (18 JAN 2003 3:36am)
Woha, woha, let's check this again: the key is inserted in the door (from the other side)? Because the only solution (using paper and pin) is the first one Michal said.
No, the key is on the floor.........
See, when you read these in the book, they don't tell you everything, until you read the answer.
You guys give up?
OK, explain THAT
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