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| 22 OCT 2005 at 3:48am |
The_cranky_hermitPrivate Detective
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Status : Online | Assume for the sake of argument, that these will be true about them:
They WILL come out on January 30, and there will be no Sierra AG-related controversy from VU until then.
Each compilation will have a single CD with all the games (this is possible if modern sound compression is used), high quality scans of the original instruction manuals, and all the extras from the old compilations (Roger's Spaced-Out Games, King's Questions, etc).
The games will be WinXP compatible out of the box, and all known bugs will be fixed. The extras will also be WinXP compatible.
The music will be redone, and it will all be digital; no PC speaker sounds, and no MIDI synthesis. The old AGI games' music will sound like it did on the PCJr's three-voice synthesis (far superior to the monotone PC Speaker). The SCI games' MIDI music will be re-synthesized on a Roland MT-32, converted to a digital format, and retroactively inserted into the WinXP compatible versions (let me know if that didn't make any sense).
The KQ Compilation will include KQ1-7 and the KQ1 SCI remake. KQ5, KQ6, and KQ7 are talkies.
The SQ Compilation will include SQ1-6 and the SQ1 SCI remake. SQ4 and SQ6 are talkies.
The LSL Compilation will include LSL1-7, Softporn (the text adventure), the LSL1 SCI remake, and a folder called "LSL4" that doesn't have anything in it at all. LSL6 and LSL 7 are talkies.
The PQ Compilation will include PQ1-4, and the PQ1 SCI remake. PQ4 is a talkie.
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| 22 OCT 2005 at 11:14am |
RecklessJourneyman
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Status : Online | I personally doubt they'd all fit on one CD but it's certainly possible that re-encoding them will be quite a bit smaller. And I think you're hoping about MT32 soundtracks wrapped in OGG (or similar)
Although I own the Collection Series sets already and can get every game to run with little (or not unreasonable) effort I would still buy them all.
Vivendi have perhaps done a disservice to the AG community by shutting down KQ9 but they were well within their legal rights to do so. I hope both parties can work towards something ammicable for all. Boycotting these new compiations because of this situation will not solve anything or bring KQ9 back.
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| 22 OCT 2005 at 12:40pm |
| Deleted User | They certainly won't fit on one CD. I hope for a DVD but a pack of CD's would be ok as well. Unfortunately I can't order from Amazon.com for as long as they don't ship them overseas, but I would buy all of them.
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| 22 OCT 2005 at 3:19pm |
judyannSorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Online | I, too, would want them XP compatible. Otherwise there wouldn't be any sense in buying them.
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| 22 OCT 2005 at 3:19pm |
judyannSorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Online | Oh yeah> Where's Gabriel?
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| 23 OCT 2005 at 5:49am |
Jenny100Guild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By The_cranky_hermit (22 OCT 2005 3:48am)
They WILL come out on January 30, and there will be no Sierra AG-related controversy from VU until then.
What does that mean?
Pretend they didn't close down KQIX?
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| 23 OCT 2005 at 12:22pm |
| Deleted User | I'm probably most interested in the SQ and PQ collections from what I've heard of the series, but I might eventually buy them all depending on what the price is like. This assumes, of course, that they're XP compatible
I realize that it may seem distasteful to some to support VU by buying these products, but I have no other way to play these games and I'm not comfortable illegally downloading them.
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| 23 OCT 2005 at 3:16pm |
Fibber_McGeeSpace Cadet
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Status : Online | I'd probably buy them all at some point, though the ones that interest me the most are SQ and PQ since I've never played SQ6 or PQ3.
What about Quest for Glory though? I never played any of those games beyond part two!
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| 23 OCT 2005 at 5:44pm |
SyrillIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By The_cranky_hermit (22 OCT 2005 3:48am)
The games will be WinXP compatible out of the box, and all known bugs will be fixed. The extras will also be WinXP compatible.
The music will be redone, and it will all be digital; no PC speaker sounds, and no MIDI synthesis. The old AGI games' music will sound like it did on the PCJr's three-voice synthesis (far superior to the monotone PC Speaker). The SCI games' MIDI music will be re-synthesized on a Roland MT-32, converted to a digital format, and retroactively inserted into the WinXP compatible versions (let me know if that didn't make any sense).
That's a lot of assumptions. I wouldn't expect them to do any polishing other than a perfunctory attempt at making them XP compatible.
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| 23 OCT 2005 at 7:14pm |
The_cranky_hermitPrivate Detective
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Petter_Holmberg (22 OCT 2005 12:40pm)
They certainly won't fit on one CD.
I think you misunderstand me. I'm talking about 4 different compilations, and each compilation would fit on a single CD. PQ1-4 easily fits on one CD and leaves gobs of room for extras. KQ1-7 can also fit on a single CD, using RAR compression, and plenty of space is left. SQ1-6, including talkies of 4 and 6, is a tighter fit, but it can be done with 7z compression, though this does not leave much room for extras. The LSL series is the only one that can't fit on a single CD as it is, and I bet it could easily be done if the voices and video of LSL6 and 7were re-encoded.
Originally Posted By judyann (22 OCT 2005 3:19pm)
Oh yeah> Where's Gabriel?
The compilations I listed are all listed at amazon.com. There is no similar evidence that GK is due for a re-release.
Originally Posted By Fibber_McGee (23 OCT 2005 3:16pm)
What about Quest for Glory though? I never played any of those games beyond part two!
Ditto for QFG.
Originally Posted By Jenny100 (23 OCT 2005 5:49am)
What does that mean?
Pretend they didn't close down KQIX?
No. What's done is done. It just means to assume that nothing further happens. Assume they won't shut down QFG2 VGA, they won't shut down Peasant's Quest, and they won't perform any general Sierra AG defilement like announcing sequels such as "Gabriel Knight: Ritter cum Schattenjager" (with a PC-only "uncut and uncensored" edition).
Originally Posted By Syrill (23 OCT 2005 5:44pm)
That's a lot of assumptions. I wouldn't expect them to do any polishing other than a perfunctory attempt at making them XP compatible.
I understand that. I'm just basing the poll on fantasy, because I'm interested in what people would do in the best case scenario.
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| 23 OCT 2005 at 10:21pm |
| Deleted User | KQ would never fit on one CD. Not even KQ1-6 I think. And yeah, it's sad that there's no GK and QFG collection. Ideally, if the XP compability thing is easy, they should have released the entire Sierra adventure game catalogue (up to a certain year) on a number of DVDs.
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| 23 OCT 2005 at 11:00pm |
Terry PenrodGrand Inquisitor
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Assuming a reasonable price and WinXP compatibility, I'll buy all 4 compilations and would also repurchase an updated GK series in a heartbeat.
Each group of games on a single DVD would be optimum but CD sets are fine too. I just want the entire collection in an easily playable format for today's PC systems.
If these sell well, perhaps LucasArts will also update their enture collection of AG classics and reoffer the kind of bundled CD (possibly DVD) sets they used to back when Win98 was the dominant OS.
Until a few years ago, they still sold the whole AG classic set in a series of CDs for a very good price direct from the LA online store. Since then, they have repackaged several all-time favorites and rereleased them for individual retail sale at a discount price. But those only include a handful of titles. I want them all.
Cheers, Terry
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| 24 OCT 2005 at 12:08am |
The_cranky_hermitPrivate Detective
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Petter_Holmberg (23 OCT 2005 10:21pm)
KQ would never fit on one CD. Not even KQ1-6 I think.
Don't be so sure until you've tried it. Using nothing but RAR compression, I have gotten KQ7 down to 274MB, KQ6 down to 222MB, and KQ5 down to 44.7MB. These easily fit on a single CD, leaving plenty of room for the other games and extras.
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| 24 OCT 2005 at 12:37pm |
kazmajikIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | I ordered the King's Quest compilation first, because I was most curious about how they would handle the series, and wanted to know if they would include games 1 - 8. Now that things have been put off for a bit, I will want to wait and see, but I'm into buying all of them if they will surely run in XP. I'm interested in the Police Quest series, having only played the first two games, but I'm wondering if there is any consideration about the fact that there are only four PQ games, when compared to the other compilations. Just speculating here, folks, but a decent inclusion would be the Laura Bow games, it being a crime-solving kinda theme here, just to balance it out.
By the way, I haven't received any word from Amazon whatsoever about the games being delayed. I'm sure they'll tell me two days after my order was supposed to have arrived. I plan to give them a piece of my mind for their unhelpfulness, to which they'll try to sell me Call of Duty 2 or something. Doncha just love big impersonal corporations? I know I do.
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| 24 OCT 2005 at 1:46pm |
RecklessJourneyman
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Status : Online | Strangely enough, the Kings Quest Collection Series (3 CDs) came with both Laura Bow games (the 2nd with full voice). I guess they were packaged with that collection as Roberta Williams had something to do with them!
PQ4 did only have 4 adventure focused games. PQ SWAT, and those that followed, were PQ games in name only. Whilst Jim Walls was the man behind the first 3 'classic' adventures, Daryl Gates took over for the 4th. It's not clear exactly why Jim left and that his replacement wasn't especially well received but hey that was years ago now PQ4 doesn't have the same control character as the 1st three either but it is good game nonetheless.
Additionally, although Daryl's name appears on the title to PQ SWAT, he's not actually credited for work on the game itself. Out of all of the Quest series, I think PQ is perhaps the most overlooked and underated. As they don't generally have a humour content they are sometimes difficult to get into.
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| 24 OCT 2005 at 6:19pm |
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Status : Offline | Sierra's adventures, to me are - Urban Runner, Phantasmagoria 1, Phantasmagoria 2, GK2, GK3, Shivers and Shivers 2.
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| 24 OCT 2005 at 8:55pm |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By jamarchand (24 OCT 2005 6:19pm)
Sierra's adventures, to me are - Urban Runner, Phantasmagoria 1, Phantasmagoria 2, GK2, GK3, Shivers and Shivers 2.
The rest are real-time strategy.
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| 24 OCT 2005 at 9:09pm |
SusanGuild Master
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Status : Offline | If they for sure worked with XP, then I would get KQ, SQ, and LSL. Need to read up on PQ more to see if I would be interested in it.)
If not, then I already have a KQ Collection and some of the games, separately, so I would just get SQ and LSL for the sake of having those games (w/o having to search on eBay and such).
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