| 15 JAN 2003 at 3:42am |
GayleSchattenjger


Posts : 2544 Joined: 12 OCT 2002
Status : Online | Well, have a couple of pet peeves.
No signaling when turning corners, they just stop, if in front of you, you slam on the brakes, they turn the corner and not signaling if turning left. People who cut you off.
The car, when it is raining hard (if it ever does much of that any more out here) who decides to go 60 through the flooded streets drowning your car so you can't see.
Cell phones.
My lastest pet peeve is, you are driving and there are two lanes, way, way in the distance the giant construction arrow is showing that you are going into a one lane situation and you would have to blind as a bat not to see it and anticipate in plenty of time but the other car has decided that it is important to be first as if one car is going to get you there any faster, waits to the last minute to merge and you let them in because you don't want your car dinged and who can tell what kind of road rage you would get if you didn't let them in.
That is why when I win the lottery I am buying the biggest model of Hummer there is for sale then watch my dust.
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| 15 JAN 2003 at 3:45am |
BelindaSchattenjger


Posts : 2093 Joined: 21 OCT 2002
Status : Online | Well Gayle....I think you summed it all up there.....I agree with everything you said. I hate it when someone doesn't use their blinkers. AND brake riders......I hate them........ >
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| 15 JAN 2003 at 3:54am |
JoGuild Master


Posts : 3313 Joined: 3 NOV 2002 Location: AU, Qld.
Status : Offline | God I know what you mean about construction sites arrows etc. They have the signs way back for people to go into e.g. the right hand lane, but most cars just stay in the left lane anyway, then just push in. If I had an old bomb I'd feel like bombing them.
Actually something rather funny looking back on it was when we lived in Perth (Australia not Scotland) and I went into a local shopping centre and parked in a spot - nose in parking with another row facing. Anyway this female in the car facing me, got out of her car and started screaming at me - and boy do I mean screaming. The reason being that she wanted to be able to drive straight through instead of reversing out!! I tried to explain that I obviously had no idea she wanted to do that as she was just sitting in the car doing nothing when I parked and could just as easily have just arrived, as I had. Well she just kept on abusing me, so I'd had enough and reached into her open car window, grabbed her keys and threw them onto the ground and walked off.
I guess that makes me as bad as her really but it sure felt good!
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| 15 JAN 2003 at 4:00am |
STooGE4444, EastCoastDoom...Schattenjger


Posts : 2099 Joined: 15 OCT 2002
Status : Online | Everything that Red Gayle said is perfect...
I think Red Gayle and I have a good view on this because we're in Orange County. Everyone sucks at driving. Seriously, it is a big problem; there are very few good drivers. I really think they need to increase the difficulty and test material for driving. And all the UC Irvine students are terrible...while close to campus I will stand at a clearly marked Pedestrian Crosswalk for like 6 minutes until all the cars have gone by (sometimes somone will let me cross). PLus all are speeding through the area...if there was a cop there all of them would have tickets.
Another is while I ride my bike. In CA, bikers have the same rules as cars...but most people don't think that is true.
Narji, a roundabout is a circle turn thing right? How do you singnal for one of those?
There are so many examples I could give to show the shit drivers that I can't because there's too many...
Especially here where everyone has a Civic or some dumbass car with a spoiler and they think they can go very fast. I think the best drivers here are the Mexicans because they (for the majority) don't have a lot of money and they drive cheap cars. They are more intuitive and safe about driving than everyone else. I think the only drivers that you can really trust are the large semi truck drivers that go across the county. They really know the road and how it operates...
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| 15 JAN 2003 at 4:37am |
JoGuild Master


Posts : 3313 Joined: 3 NOV 2002 Location: AU, Qld.
Status : Offline | Quote: (sorry still don't know how to do a quote properly.) How do you signal for a roundabout?
Well first of all we drive on the left-hand side instead of the right, and here you are supposed to first of all get in the correct lane if there are two lanes, and if you are turning right, signal right as you go into the roundabout then left as you come out (that's not very clear I'm afraid, it's sort of second nature to me and I do it automatically). Anyway vice versa if turning left. and if straight ahead, well you are still supposed to signal, but of course on a tiny roundabout you can't really.
God that sounds confusing writing it down. I sort of grew up with roundabouts in N.Z., especially in Auckland, but when we moved to Perth in 1975 there weren't any that I can recall, and when they were introduced people didn't seem to have a clue what they were doing.
Think I should have left that one alone!
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| 15 JAN 2003 at 5:05am |
STooGE4444, EastCoastDoom...Schattenjger


Posts : 2099 Joined: 15 OCT 2002
Status : Online | Originally Posted By narji (15 JAN 2003 4:37am)
Well first of all we drive on the left-hand side instead of the right, and here you are supposed to first of all get in the correct lane if there are two lanes, and if you are turning right, signal right as you go into the roundabout then left as you come out (that's not very clear I'm afraid, it's sort of second nature to me and I do it automatically). Anyway vice versa if turning left. and if straight ahead, well you are still supposed to signal, but of course on a tiny roundabout you can't really.
ummmyea...
Left...right...right...signal...left...right...left...signal..left..right..turn...signal..stop...
That is all I saw...
You can quote by clicking on Quote in the Top right hand corner of someones post. Or you can quote when typing in a new reply and choose the second to the right of the bottom row of icons. (It looks like a page with an arrow...
~rbeeler SVT &&Name's STooGE$$$$ Valpurgius TNT; it's not PLURAL&&[img]http://www.riseaboverecords.com/sleep/image/sleepfront.gif[/img]&&151.Generally speaking Sludge Doomsters are Angry, Gothic doomsters are sad, funeral doomsters are barely breathing, death doomsters are dirty, drunk and dribbling, Stoner Doomsters don't care, drone doomsters are out of it and traditional Doomsters are permanently pissed off, mainly with other doomsters
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| 15 JAN 2003 at 5:31am |
InlandAZGuild Master


Posts : 5587 Joined: 4 MAY 2007
Status : Offline | What do you find are the worst driving habits (other peoples of course!! ha ha) Things that either drive you mad (that wasn't meant to be a pun) or are just downright dangerous?
Any habit anyone who visits Arizona to escape the cold in the winter months where they live. AKA: Snow Birds -
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| 15 JAN 2003 at 10:49am |
| Deleted User | People always argue about how to signal in a roundabout. The way I was taught in traffic school was to treat is as a normal crossing. You should signal both before entering and before leaving it. Since you're only going in one direction in it, there's no point signalling that you're turning right when entering it (if you have right-hand traffic like we do here in Sweden). No, you should signal the way you are supposed to go after the roundabout before entering. So, if you're taking the left exit, you signal left even though you turn right when you enter the roundabout. If you're going straight forward, there's no need to signal at all. When you exit the roundabout, you signal right and position yourself in the outer part of it before turning.
I've heard people disagree with me on these rules, but that's the way I was taught and it seems logical to me. The reason people signal wrong may be laziness, but I also think it's much due to the fact that they don't know the proper procedure.
What irritates me the most about drivers here in Sweden is that they don't know how to drive well on motorways and other high-speed roads. Getting through Stockholm is often a scary thing. People don't keep their distances, and sneaks up right behind you before passing, even if there's plenty of space in the left lane. If some car would have to brake hard, a dozen of other cars would inevitably crash into its rear because they wouldn't have time to react.
I've driven in about ten countries so far, and in middle Europe where high-speed motorways are more common, people drive much more safely on them. The Germans are especially good. You might be passed by a BMW doing 200 km/h on the Autobahn, but at least it has changed lanes way, way behind you. I even drove on the Autostrada (the Italian motorways) on a night straight from Napoli to Rome, and despite heavy traffic, I didn't have any problems at all...
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| 15 JAN 2003 at 2:07pm |
sccurrieIntergalactic Janitor


Posts : 32 Joined: 10 OCT 2002
Status : Offline | Oh, don't get me started.....but, one thing that drives me crazy....does anybody, except me, actually stop at a stop sign? > Shelly
Patience and Persistence
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| 15 JAN 2003 at 2:23pm |
GayleSchattenjger


Posts : 2544 Joined: 12 OCT 2002
Status : Online | Stooge,
The Orange Circle is a roundabout, the one by Chapman college or did you already know that? Signal going into it and signal getting out. The big problem is someone letting you in or over so you can get out.
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| 15 JAN 2003 at 10:47pm |
JoGuild Master


Posts : 3313 Joined: 3 NOV 2002 Location: AU, Qld.
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By stooge4444 (15 JAN 2003 5:05am) Quote in the Top right hand corner of someones post. Or you can quote when typing in a new reply and choose the second to the right of the bottom row of icons. (It looks like a page with an arrow...
Oh I still don't know if this works, doesn't look right in the preview, I'll post it and see what happens (she goes on mumbling to herself)
Thanks for that Stooge I obviously didn't use my brains here "there are none so blind that they who cannot see"
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| 15 JAN 2003 at 10:48pm |
JoGuild Master


Posts : 3313 Joined: 3 NOV 2002 Location: AU, Qld.
Status : Offline | Well that didn't work, what on earth am I doing wrong, I used the "quote" on the top right hand corner, oh well I'll try again another time.
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| 15 JAN 2003 at 10:56pm |
GayleSchattenjger


Posts : 2544 Joined: 12 OCT 2002
Status : Online | Don't feel bad, I still am a failure at quotes too.
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| 15 JAN 2003 at 11:00pm |
sennebecGuild Master


Posts : 3334 Joined: 15 NOV 2004 Location: US, maine
Status : Offline |
TAILGATERS
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| 15 JAN 2003 at 11:59pm |
AyaGrand Inquisitor


Posts : 7277 Joined: 16 OCT 2002
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By narji (15 JAN 2003 10:48pm) Well that didn't work, what on earth am I doing wrong, I used the "quote" on the top right hand corner, oh well I'll try again another time. read This Thread for a quoting walkthru!
You have gotten the attention of the mysterious lady. She turns to face you. Her face is devoid of any flesh. You are frozen with horror as she begins ripping your body into a bloody mess.
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| 16 JAN 2003 at 1:01am |
MichalNGrand Inquisitor


Posts : 7058 Joined: 14 SEP 2003
Status : Online | Originally Posted By narji (15 JAN 2003 10:46pm) Oh I still don't know if this works, doesn't look right in the preview, I'll post it and see what happens (she goes on mumbling to herself) Narji, you somehow left out a closing right square bracket (']') before the quoted text. That confused the heck out of the parser.
In your editing window, you must have something like this:
The opening quote tag can (but doesn't have to) also contain additional information such as "author=AuthorsName" and so on. The important part is that all the brackets and tags must match, otherwise the parser can't tell where the quotes start and end.
Gayle, don't tell me a smart girl like you (and a Goddess nonetheless) can't figure out how to do the quoting
It's all dead simple if you know HTML. I guess it looks a lot more complicated if you don't
I forgot my sig.
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| 16 JAN 2003 at 1:11am |
MichalNGrand Inquisitor


Posts : 7058 Joined: 14 SEP 2003
Status : Online | And to get back on topic, yeah, I absolutely hate tailgaters. They make me mad. And since I have an old Audi 80 sedan, I absolutely hate it when there's a truck behind me with headlights on shining right into my rearview mirror and blinding me. I do not understand Americans' obsession with trucks and SUVs.
But my impression of American drivers has been overall pretty good so far, they seem mostly disciplined and calm. At least here in Chico/Northern California, it's worse in the Bay Area. I have done very very little driving in LA (went to Orange once) so I could not form a definitive impression. Except that there was way too much traffic for my taste.
In Europe the best drivers I've seen are Germans. Back home in the Czech Republic there are way too many reckless drivers who behave like complete morons when behind the steering wheel.
Driving in Italy is quite an experience - driving 30kph faster than the speed limit doesn't seem to bother anyone (including the Polizia/Carabinieri) and drivers tend to completely ignore traffic signs, lanes and so on. But people still get where they want to be, often without getting killed in the process.
I forgot my sig.
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| 16 JAN 2003 at 3:59am |
JoGuild Master


Posts : 3313 Joined: 3 NOV 2002 Location: AU, Qld.
Status : Offline | Thanks Aya and MichaelN
read This Thread for a quoting walkthru!
It worked that time.
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| 16 JAN 2003 at 5:49am |
STooGE4444, EastCoastDoom...Schattenjger


Posts : 2099 Joined: 15 OCT 2002
Status : Online | Red Gayle, I've never seen the Orange Circle...but I know what they are...
Originally Posted By narji (15 JAN 2003 10:46pm)
"there are none so blind that they who cannot see"
Yes, but the blind can still see...
~rbeeler SVT &&Name's STooGE$$$$ Valpurgius TNT; it's not PLURAL&&[img]http://www.riseaboverecords.com/sleep/image/sleepfront.gif[/img]&&151.Generally speaking Sludge Doomsters are Angry, Gothic doomsters are sad, funeral doomsters are barely breathing, death doomsters are dirty, drunk and dribbling, Stoner Doomsters don't care, drone doomsters are out of it and traditional Doomsters are permanently pissed off, mainly with other doomsters
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| 16 JAN 2003 at 1:05pm |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By MichalN (16 JAN 2003 1:11am) Driving in Italy is quite an experience - driving 30kph faster than the speed limit doesn't seem to bother anyone (including the Polizia/Carabinieri) and drivers tend to completely ignore traffic signs, lanes and so on. But people still get where they want to be, often without getting killed in the process.
Yeah, I remember trying to slow down at several places where they were repairing/rebuilding the motorways, and I had to speed up again for safety reasons when I saw the number of cars quickly approaching from behind.
In the cities it's a mess. You're best off with a small car, as it's usually very narrow. And it's fun to see all the retired old women driving around on vespas like crazy.
Also, do you know how it usually looks at a crossing of a big road with two lanes in both directions, when you can turn left? There's usually this painted zone that you're not supposed to drive on that makes place for a short strip of road where cars turning left can stop in before passing over the lanes that go in the opposite direction. Well, if there was a red light, the Italian drivers always used that zone as a third lane just to get up to the front.
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