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| 17 SEP 2005 at 3:05am |
| Deleted User | I second that based on just playing the demo. Once you get used to the controls it's just plain awesome! I hope though that it does not turn out to be an action fest. Even in the demo I was completely drawn in and became part of the game. Wish it were longer. I probably won't play this until I build a new computer. To play the demo I had to turn the graphics settings low since I'm below (PIII-733 with only 128Mb RAM) the min required specs. Even if you don't like keyboard controls in a game I would suggest you give the demo a try. I think you will like it very much.
DeathRay
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| 17 SEP 2005 at 4:14am |
StilerJourneyman
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Status : Offline | Lucky man, can't wait to get mine in, loved the demo.
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| 17 SEP 2005 at 5:25am |
BazzaLBPrivate Detective
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Status : Offline | Well, the demo certainly looked intriguing, but I must say I hated the controls with a passion... My brain just cant seem to process the directions properly if I'm not directly behind the character... Is this an option at all? Otherwise I'm suffering from an out of body experience that my hands/brain just don't seem to be able to cope with. Most of the time when I got caught it was in the throws of staggering around like a lunatic fighting with the controls twisting one way then the other in a frantic panic to elude capture and work out which direction is left and right. Usually, I would just uninstall the game, but this one really looked promising...
When I was finally out on the street, I ended up with the camera facing me.. I couldn't see where I was headed and couldn't get the camera to swing around behind my character and hence couldn;t see where I was going. I really hate these console style controls..
Also, I have yet to see a game that Randdom has recommended that wasn't pretty darn good... I hope there are some better control options available.
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| 17 SEP 2005 at 6:56am |
jedicriSpace Cadet
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Status : Online | Ughhh.... the North American version will arrive here 21st September.... lucky you. I had considered ordering the European version since I prefer games on DVD format and its uncensored too.
As for the controls, the demo has the option of having either gamepad or mouse/keyboard control. I should think the full version will get the same options. I recommend playing with the former; soooo much easier especially when it comes to finding your bearings. Just buy yourself a good gamepad; pretty cheap nowadays for that matter. I'm personally using a Logitech Rumblepad, nothing fancy....
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| 17 SEP 2005 at 12:12pm |
| Deleted User | I admit the controls are something to get use to (after remapping the keys ), and still, I miss half of the "action" parts. But the game often continue like nothing happened, giving the feeling you've just missed an occasion...
Plus, it seems to me like the demo didn't have all the control right; like the character couldn't turn left/right while running...
Can't wait to play more tonight...
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| 18 SEP 2005 at 12:58am |
jedicriSpace Cadet
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Status : Online | ^^^Whoa! Stop! No spoilers please! Yeah, I've already read the Carla bit part >
Give a warning if you're going to post such bits of info. Heck, I don't even have the game yet.
Thanks!
Edit:
Oh yes, definitely get a gamepad....
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| 18 SEP 2005 at 1:50am |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By Randdom (17 SEP 2005 12:12pm)
I admit the controls are something to get use to (after remapping the keys ), and still, I miss half of the "action" parts. But the game often continue like nothing happened, giving the feeling you've just missed an occasion...
Plus, it seems to me like the demo didn't have all the control right; like the character couldn't turn left/right while running...
Can't wait to play more tonight...
I used the keyboard/mouse combo in the demo (I think this is your only option) and was able to turn left/right while running. Does the full version of the game have a training area to learn the controls and techniques better before starting the actual game play? Games like System Shock 2 had a great training area so that you were not overwhelmed at dealing with action elements at the beginning of the game.
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| 18 SEP 2005 at 2:04am |
jedicriSpace Cadet
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By DeathRay (18 SEP 2005 1:50am)
I used the keyboard/mouse combo in the demo (I think this is your only option)
In the demo, there is also the option of using a gamepad. I played the demo on both mouse/keyboard and gamepad, and I personally and highly recommend using the latter.
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| 18 SEP 2005 at 3:46am |
StilerJourneyman
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Status : Offline | In the demo I got used to the keyboard/mouse fairly easily after playing, no problems with it.
BTW if any of you get through with the game and decide to sell it/trade lmk what you'd want for it , decided to wait a bit for the price to be a bit cheaper coming to the US.
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| 18 SEP 2005 at 4:52am |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By jedicri (18 SEP 2005 2:03am)
In the demo, there is also the option of using a gamepad. I played the demo on both mouse/keyboard and gamepad, and I personally and highly recommend using the latter.
In the demo, I could only choose the option for the mouse/keyboard. Maybe because I didn't have a gamepad plugged in. However, I quickly got used to the mouse/keyboard combination and it worked out fine for me. I still won't play the game though until I build a new system for the full graphical effect.
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| 18 SEP 2005 at 5:32am |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By jedicri (18 SEP 2005 12:58am)
Edit:
Oh yes, definitely get a gamepad....
Just found this out for myself and thought I would share for those who also are not aware. If you have a PS2, you can buy a USB adapter from radio shack for about $11 so that you can use your PS2 controller with your computer. Sounds pretty cool and I'm sure you can get it somewhere other than Radio Shack.
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| 18 SEP 2005 at 11:40am |
sg7Sorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Offline | Whoops sorry I deleted the offending post , but I was a bit hyper after playing for 5 straight hours ,I have ordered a gamepad and If this allows me to get round the reaction tests , this game goes straight into my top 10 :-[
Playing ME3-Citadel ,TOMB raider ,Skyrim Dragonborn
Waiting fot journey down episode 2 ,Dragon AGE 3
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| 18 SEP 2005 at 12:46pm |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By sg7 (18 SEP 2005 11:40am)
Whoops sorry , but I was a bit hyper after playing for 5 straight hours ,I have ordered a gamepad and If this allows me to get round the reaction tests , this game goes straight into my top 10 :-[
lol, I know what you mean: I've played the game till the end yesterday. I simply couldn't stop. Wow! The game isn't without faults; lots of action scenes (BS3-haters beware!), some camera issues, one or two stealth scenes are pretty annoying. But the overall emotional impact just elevate the game way up there for me. I am definitly going to replay it now!
@sg7: are you at the "easy" setting? I had difficulty doing the reflex parts at first because being on my laptop (without numpad), I had to do it with the keyboard AND the mouse at the same time . I solved the problem by remapping the keys of the two keyboard controls side by side on the letters of the keyboard: way much easier like this.
Oh and this version definitly isn't censored
Edit: Yes, Deathray, there is an optional tutorial at the beggining.
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| 18 SEP 2005 at 10:31pm |
PoyntenklikSorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Online | I read about someone who played the full game non stop, and finished it in one day. From start to finish it only took him around 10 hours. He did say it was an amazing experience, awesome game etc, but, hm, 10 hours?
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| 18 SEP 2005 at 11:42pm |
kuddlesPrivate Detective
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Status : Online | $20.00 DVD = 2 hours entertainment, some extras.
$50.00 GAME = 10 hours entertainment, replay value (different story arc)
Sounds like it's worth it to me.
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| 19 SEP 2005 at 12:20am |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By Randdom (18 SEP 2005 12:45pm)
Edit: Yes, Deathray, there is an optional tutorial at the beggining.
Good to hear. I need all the help I can when it comes to games like this, but I love them so!
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| 19 SEP 2005 at 12:23am |
nytimesguyPrivate Detective
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Status : Online | What are the default PC controls? I played this on the Xbox. They didn't have the reaction time stuff in the demo so I'm curious how that works.
Charles - Game Theorist
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| 19 SEP 2005 at 12:44am |
PoyntenklikSorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By kuddles (18 SEP 2005 11:42pm)
$20.00 DVD = 2 hours entertainment, some extras.
$50.00 GAME = 10 hours entertainment, replay value (different story arc)
Sounds like it's worth it to me.
Well, you can rent a movie for a lot less. I'm surprised there aren't rental outlets for pc games, ( lots for console games) because it'd be cheaper to play a short game like fahrenheit.
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| 19 SEP 2005 at 2:12am |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By jedicri (18 SEP 2005 12:58am)
^^^Whoa! Stop! No spoilers please! Yeah, I've already read the Carla bit part >
Give a warning if you're going to post such bits of info. Heck, I don't even have the game yet.
In fact, it's not too late to go back and edit the post, removing the spoilers.
Edit: Hey, can someone point me to the demo? Thanks bunches.
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| 19 SEP 2005 at 4:27am |
MikekellyPrivate Detective
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DANG - I may JUST have to buy this puppy!
I've heard nothing but positive reviews of it !@!!!!
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| 19 SEP 2005 at 4:58pm |
CulturaJourneyman
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Status : Offline | Here's the demo (through a Dutch site, but there are many)
http://www.planet.nl/planet/show/id=75057/contentid=603120/sc=787611
Loks like a great game, and I will surely play it.
But then again, I am also a huge fan of their last game, Nomad Soul/Omikron. It was a game with some flaws (but not as many a the Quantic Dream website sufggest...!) but a great achievement overall. A beautiful hybrid game with stuning grapihics, great story and very, very immersive.
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| 19 SEP 2005 at 7:41pm |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By nytimesguy (19 SEP 2005 12:23am)
What are the default PC controls? I played this on the Xbox. They didn't have the reaction time stuff in the demo so I'm curious how that works.
There is two "Simon pads", the left one being the arrows and the right one the numpad or the mouse -the latter being very fun but way too hard to coordinate with the arrows .
But then again, I am also a huge fan of their last game, Nomad Soul/Omikron. It was a game with some flaws (but not as many a the Quantic Dream website sufggest...!) but a great achievement overall. A beautiful hybrid game with stuning grapihics, great story and very, very immersive.
Yes definitly, and Fahrenheit has a very "Omikronian feel" IMO. it's like they took out all the (kind of average-) arcade sequences and replaced them with simple reaction gameplay; which gave them the opportunity to set up some kicka$$ action scenes!
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| 19 SEP 2005 at 7:55pm |
CerberusPrivate Detective
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Status : Online | wow - first post here for years
Really really like this game. In fact it is probably the only game i have played through twice in a row (Now contemplating another go on hard this time). This format of game would fit very well in episodic releases I think (a' la Sin: Episodes). Sort of like an interactive tv series (something like an interactive version of Buffy - would work really well I think).
Mmmm.....buffy......
Anyway...where was I? Ah yes....
A couple of (minor) niggles though :
1. Although I never had any problems at all with the "simon says" type action scenes, i found it difficult to focus on the "action scenes" occuring in the background while trying to concentrate on the colour combinations.
You can watch the scenes played automatically later in the extras menu but it's not the same
2. A certain plot element and character introduced out of the blue in the third act with virtually no foreshadowing of any kind (I wont go into it any further than that - big spoiler)
3. Not really a niggle as such but I have unlocked everything in the extras menu but I am still only at 82% extras unlocked in the in-game stats screen. Am I missing someting? Do I need to play through on hard to unlock more extras or do I need to collect all the floating tokens through the game? Or is this just a bug :S
btw (i would elaborate on point 2 but I cant remember how to post hidden spoiler text any one help me out).
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| 19 SEP 2005 at 10:14pm |
| Deleted User | Hey Random.
I am going to buy the game after I've finished some others.
But I've downloaded the demo. What would you recoment:
a. play the demo and the buy the game and start all over, because it's THAT great.
0r
b. Throw away the demo, buy the game asap and play it from scratch from the bought copy?
Glad to hear you like the game so much.
See ya.
Funk.
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