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5 SEP 2005 at 3:34pm

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Track Down the Location. Take Your Time.
Explain All the Clues within the Rhyme.
I'll Give You a Hint if it's Too Hard for You.
Give Me a Full Answer; You'll Get the Next Clue.


Clue 1: North America

Bright Army's Mead Cup, Once it Was Stone.
Pass the Lip To Be in a New Zone.
Fashioned by the Six in the Ebony Rift,
It Slows the Red Current in its South West Drift.

Solution to Clue 1 here.
Clue 2 here
Solution to Clue 2 here
Clue 3 here

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6 SEP 2005 at 2:53pm

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Somebody could at least say "What the hell are you talking about, snowtime?"

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6 SEP 2005 at 4:09pm

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What in Zandru's hells are you talking about, snowtime? I live to serve.

You did say "Take your Time" though, and I have absolutely no clue whatsoever on the clue 1.  :


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6 SEP 2005 at 4:23pm

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The meanings of names are important but two are unchanged in this clue.

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7 SEP 2005 at 8:21pm

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Originally Posted By snowtime (6 SEP 2005 2:53pm)
Somebody could at least say "What the hell are you talking about, snowtime?"

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(p.s. what the hell are you talking about?)
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7 SEP 2005 at 8:48pm

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If you've played Lady K's Lost in Translation game in Adv Game Trivia. This has a bit of that idea in it. But it's multiplied 100x. It's a proper old-fashioned riddle to find a real place.
You might have to do a bit of searching round on the net to get some of the references. Wikipedia is a very useful site.

Another clue to help you along

This honey wine is really Adam's ale.

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8 SEP 2005 at 7:33am

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I guess at least part of the answer would be the Red River Floodway.
Red Current = Red River (of the North)
the Lip = see the above page
Then "it" should be the Floodway? But what about "honey" and "stone"? Or some structure...perhaps limestone (honey-colored)?
"Limestone cup" is a term used to describe the protective shell of corals. But that doesn't seem to be connected to this riddle...

Edit:
Nah...I'm on the wrong track here. It's simpler.
I'm thinking Red Canyon. There's a Red River there, there is lots of limestone, there's even a Lake Mead.
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8 SEP 2005 at 7:37am

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Nice try Elfstone.

It's not the Red River - not in English anyway.

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8 SEP 2005 at 8:02am

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Originally Posted By snowtime (8 SEP 2005 7:37am)
Nice try Elfstone.

It's not the Red River - not in English anyway.

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I alredy corrected my first try, but saying it's not Red River means that I'm still not even close...
Well, what else could be found in North America? I guess French and Spanish. French is more likely, because of Canada, but there is/are Rio Rojo in North America as well. But that's just another name for Red River aka Colorado River...

"Adam's ale" is nothing more than "water" which means the "Mead Cup" could be Lake Mead (why it was stone, I don't know). "It" might be the Hoover Dam as that one is in fact slowing down Colorado River's "South West Drift" and it is located at Lake Mead. Any luck?

Some more: Lake Mead formed in consequence of the Hoover Dam which means it was stone before and then became the "Mead Cup". This site is quite useful (first google hit on Colorado River
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And this: Hoover Dam was built by Six Companies, Inc in Black Canyon (Ebony Rift?).
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8 SEP 2005 at 8:11am

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You're on the money!

It is the HOOVER DAM

Now, can you work out what all the references mean?

So far you have:


  • Colorado River = Red current (it's called the Colorado at the Hoover Dam even if it might be called other things elsewhere. Colorado = red coloured)
  • Lake Mead (the Hoover Dam "cups" Lake Mead - remember it's a poem a bit of metaphor is allowed)


Once you have the rest, Clue 2 will follow.

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8 SEP 2005 at 8:23am

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"Bright Army" is still unclear. I guess it refers to Elwood Mead who was in charge of the dam?
No idea what exactly the "Lip" could be, but it's most likely just a poetic expression for some kind of placemark.
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8 SEP 2005 at 8:31am

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Don't get hung up on the Lip. Think about the Zones

It's not Elwood Mead. It's more obvious than that (in an obscure way). It's also linked to the Stone reference.

What about the Six and the Ebony Rift?

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8 SEP 2005 at 8:43am

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Originally Posted By snowtime (8 SEP 2005 8:31am)
Don't get hung up on the Lip. Think about the Zones

Oh, duh. From Arizona to Nevada.


It's not Elwood Mead. It's more obvious than that (in an obscure way). It's also linked to the Stone reference.

No idea.


What about the Six and the Ebony Rift?

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8 SEP 2005 at 8:48am

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Yup

Pass Over the Lip. Enter Another Zone = Driving over the dam you pass from Pacific Standard time zone (Nevada) to Mountain Standard time zone (Arizona). Or the other way depending on which way you are driving.

As I said before, the meaning of names is important (and their permanence or otherwise).

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8 SEP 2005 at 8:55am

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The arrow shouldn't point to "no idea", btw. It was meant to point to a previous reply in which I answered that the "Six" are Six Companies, Inc and "Ebony Rift" is Black Canyon where Hoover Dam is situated.

Which makes me think...probably "Once was Stone" means that the Hoover Dam was supposed to be built in Boulder (Stone) Canyon. Still missing the "Bright Army" part...
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8 SEP 2005 at 12:11pm

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Sorry, I missed that - was it in the edit?

Stone is indeed Boulder but it's not to do with the Boulder Canyon. But you're close enough so I'll give that to you.

Once it Was Stone = President Roosevelt temporarily had it renamed the Boulder Dam (obviously he didn't like the person it was named after, who was...)

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8 SEP 2005 at 9:03pm

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... John Edgar Hoover who was the director of the FBI (Bright Army?).
I'm the only one playing this game?  :

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8 SEP 2005 at 9:19pm

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Well, you're the only one who actually seems to be any good at this game. I know I wouldn't have figured anything out, though it seems very obvious now... Colorado, duh!

Of course, Avatar and myself did take a part in this game, by expressing our interest and our undying devotion to Snowtime.

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9 SEP 2005 at 8:09am

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... John Edgar Hoover who was the director of the FBI (Bright Army?).


A different Hoover. (I'd like to find anyone who would describe the FBI as a bright army!
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Of course, Avatar and myself did take a part in this game, by expressing our interest and our undying devotion to Snowtime.


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11 SEP 2005 at 11:59am

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Oops...Herbert Hoover. President and all that.  

Bright Army...there's something about a Bonus Army...?
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11 SEP 2005 at 1:31pm

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Meaning of names...

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11 SEP 2005 at 5:56pm

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Actually, I'm going to give this one to you Elfstone. Here is the full explanation for Clue 1.

Bright Army's Mead Cup, Once it Was Stone.
Pass the Lip To Be in a New Zone.
Fashioned by the Six in the Ebony Rift,  
It Slows the Red Current in its South West Drift.

Answer: The Hoover Dam, Arizona/Nevada, USA

Explanation

  • Bright Army = Herbert (Herbert Hoover) derived from the Germanic elements heri "army" and beraht "bright"
  • Mead Cup = Hoover Dam holds back (cups) the waters of Lake Mead
  • Once it Was Stone = President Roosevelt temporarily had it renamed the Boulder Dam
  • Pass Over the Lip. Enter Another Zone = Driving over the dam you pass from Pacific Standard time zone (Nevada) to Mountain Standard time zone (Arizona).
  • Fashioned by the Six = built by Six Companies Inc
  • Ebony Rift = located in Black Canyon
  • Red Current = Colorado River (Colorado = red coloured)


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11 SEP 2005 at 5:57pm

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Clue 2: Asia

Rising Out of the Isle of the Dawn,
In its Shade Science City Was Born.
From the Place of the Toad Shrine a Cable Climbs,
Where a Warrior Priest Turned Back Seven Times.


Solution to Clue 2 here
Clue 3 here


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14 SEP 2005 at 8:01am

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Here we go again! I thought you people were into solving problems!

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Originally Posted By snowtime (14 SEP 2005 8:00am)
Here we go again! I thought you people were into solving problems!

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You must have mistaken me for someone else: perhaps you are speaking about Chris, my northern sibling.  :


I guess Isle of the Dawn might be Japan, but that would be the extent of my guessing. The only thing of relevance I otherwise found was a roleplaying game set in the universe of Titan, with a Shrine of Hamaskis, a Warrior Priest, and an Isle of the Dawn... Don't ask.

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