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| 8 OCT 2005 at 8:59pm |
papillonSorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Online | I certainly had *originally* planned to buy these new compilations, despite owning originals.... but after the cease&desists, my feelings have changed, and vivendi can go do unpleasant things to themselves.
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| 9 OCT 2005 at 10:26am |
| Deleted User | To those of you who already pre-ordered: The collections are released on Tuesday. As soon as you get them, post a detailed description of what's in the boxes as soon as you can, please! I am dying to know...
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| 16 OCT 2005 at 5:45am |
jujigatameSchattenjger
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Status : Online | So has anyone got them yet? How are they?
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| 16 OCT 2005 at 11:57am |
RecklessJourneyman
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Status : Online | I'd also like to know. Damn shame Amazon will not deliver games to the UK... hey Val, what's the capability of adding these to the online store?
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| 17 OCT 2005 at 6:38pm |
WimliGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Are these collections actually out yet? It's strange no one has seen them anywhere yet, amazon still has no picture of these and the Sierra website atill make absolutely no mention of them. Makes me kinda skeptical. I think I'll only believe these collection will be published when I see some proof of them... :-/
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| 18 OCT 2005 at 2:21am |
jujigatameSchattenjger
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Status : Online | Yea I haven't seen them at Best Buy, and they are usually pretty good at carrying adventures. We need evidence that these really exist!!
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| 18 OCT 2005 at 6:30am |
kazmajikIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | I was pretty excited to first see the news of these re-releases, but I don't understand the almost complete lack of information about them. No boxshots, no descriptions, no listing of the numbers of games in each compilation, just the name, price, and that they'll run in XP. I wrote an email to Amazon the other day, as follows:
I am interested in purchasing the recently available King's Quest, Space Quest, Police Quest, and Leisure Suit Larry compilations, but I have been unable to find any real information on these products. I would like some assurance that these games will work with Windows XP, because they are older games. Also, I would like to know exactly how many games are included with each respective compilation. The reason I am asking is that the 1 to 2 week ship date for these products means I will have to wait that long before reviews of these products will answer my questions, and I would like to order them before such time. Thank you very much for your attention.
Their response? This:
Thank you for writing to us at Amazon.com.
The only information we can give you about particular titles is what we display on the product information page: the title, author, edition, publisher, publication date, price, and ISBN. Sometimes we have a short synopsis, review, cover image, and a link to "Look Inside" to view selected pages of the book.
Our Customer Service centers are not in the same location as our fulfillment centers. Amazon.com offers hundreds of thousands of items in our own inventory, and the fulfillment center buildings enclose millions of square feet. In addition, many of our fulfillment center processes are automated and computerized.
For these reasons, we are unable to check the physical details of an item for you. Our information is limited to what the publishers and manufacturers supply to us; this information appears on our Web site.
We know that, often, the amount of information we have may make it difficult to make a purchasing decision unless you already know something about the item. Our editorial staff is working on building up the amount of information we provide about each item.
You might also try the Web Search on our home page, directly beneath our Product Search box.
I hope this information helps. Thanks again for shopping at Amazon.com.
About as unhelpful as you can get. Tonight I ordered the King's Quest compilation, because I ran out of patience waiting to find anything about them. In a week or two I should know firsthand, but maybe if anybody else gets them before then they could reveal all here?
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| 18 OCT 2005 at 8:06am |
DustyTrailIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | Goes to show, doesn't it? Vivendi wasn't interested in what Adventure Gamers want, just looking after their interests (money). SHAME, SHAME, SHAME .... I wouldn't buy the games if my life depended on it.
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| 18 OCT 2005 at 9:15am |
kazmajikIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | Not to get too far off the topic, but I've noticed a boatload of animosity toward Vivendi, and I'm sure it's not entirely unfounded, but I don't see how boycotting these compilations on the grounds that they served a cease and desist order about KQIX is in the interests of those who want to see more adventure games created. Yes, I am upset that the project came to a crashing halt the way it has. Vivendi would do well to consider the fans of this genre, and hire the KQIX team and release a great official sequel. That I'm totally for. I am also for the re-release of these great classic Sierra games in a format that will work with modern computers. Just because we can't have both, we should have neither? I don't see the logic.
I must say, I am completely perplexed by the media blackout about the release of these compilations. It makes no sense to release a product without any promotion whatsoever. Maybe I did a hasty and foolish thing, ordering one of them without more info, but it's a small risk, and I'm not the only one who ordered them. I just hope we can hear from someone who actually receives the compilations soon!
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| 18 OCT 2005 at 11:25am |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By kazmajik (18 OCT 2005 9:15am)
I don't see how boycotting these compilations on the grounds that they served a cease and desist order about KQIX is in the interests of those who want to see more adventure games created.
Me neither.
I must say, I am completely perplexed by the media blackout about the release of these compilations. It makes no sense to release a product without any promotion whatsoever.
Yeah it's strange, isn't it? Who do they hope to reach here? I can see why they wouldn't think it's worth spending advertising money on it, but handing some basic product details over to Amazon.com and making at least an entry on their website wouldn't exactly do them harm. The current approach only creates confusion with these products and previously released collections.
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| 18 OCT 2005 at 5:54pm |
jalexSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Agustin (7 OCT 2005 3:26am)
Superior OSes? I thought we were talking about Windows here
But seriously, where's the huge step in XP? It's basically Win2k with a horrible default interface. MS hasn't really progressed since NT 4.0.
And I wouldn't say so happily that coding a game for Win is any easier than coding a game for DOS.
I think XP is a huge step backwords if you are running a low end system with 256 or less ram. I have not seen it run well on anything less than a 2 gig with at least 1 gig of ram and a video card with lots of ram.
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| 19 OCT 2005 at 12:27am |
The_cranky_hermitPrivate Detective
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By jalex (18 OCT 2005 5:53pm)
I think XP is a huge step backwords if you are running a low end system with 256 or less ram. I have not seen it run well on anything less than a 2 gig with at least 1 gig of ram and a video card with lots of ram.
So is it 1GB or 2GB? I run it just fine with a mere 512MB, and a 32MB video card should be plenty. And I don't think it's correct to call it a "step backwards" because it requires more RAM than what came before it. If you're running a new OS on an old computer that doesn't have the right specs, your computer is backwards, not the OS.
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| 19 OCT 2005 at 1:05am |
jujigatameSchattenjger
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Status : Online | I think XP is a huge step backwords if you are running a low end system with 256 or less ram. I have not seen it run well on anything less than a 2 gig with at least 1 gig of ram and a video card with lots of ram.
Honestly dude, what in God's name are you talking about? My computer used to have 256 MB of RAM and XP ran just fine on it. XP is a huge step forward for Win9x users who want a more stable operating system.
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| 19 OCT 2005 at 2:13am |
SirDaveGuild Master
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Status : Offline | I second & third the last 2 posts. Gee, I'm getting irritated at all the ridiculous stuff said about WinXP. If one is going to criticize it, please be sure you know what you're talking about.
WinXP can run okay with on 256 & 512 mb. The demands for memory only go up for CPU-intensive requirements involving things like video/photo apps and some games. Even then, there are very few people who need more than 1gig at the most. I did some pretty CPU-intensive DVD/video editting with only 512mb, though the rendering speed improved with 1gig.
As for WinXP being a step backward- I run Win98se & WinXP side-by-side. Win98se is fine as long as I don't try to do too much at one time and don't fool too much with the stable system I've put together. Even then I have to restore a pristine system every few months to keep it stable. WinXP, on the other hand, is far more stable and tolerates fairly careless behaviour on the part of the user.
@Augustin: re: '...coding a game for Win is any easier than coding a game for DOS.'
Did you ever code a game for DOS? Presumably, you're coding using apps that run under Windows. Presumably, they're pretty good apps. That's because Windows has provided an ability to have various apps work together in a standard way better than DOS ever did. Not too mention that Windows allows pretty exotic front-end GUIs for programming apps that weren't possible under DOS. Plus, because of Windows you can be far more confident that your game(s) will run on a given system, better than if the OS was DOS!
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| 20 OCT 2005 at 3:25am |
kazmajikIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | I just went by Amazon and guess what? Now they have the release date for these compilations as January 30, 2006! What is going on? To make it more confusing, I ordered one of them on Oct. 17, and when I went to check my order status, it still says that it has a delivery estimate of Oct. 31 - Nov. 7. This is so ridiculous! I'm guessing that the release date has been pushed back because these games have been put out there as bait, to gauge interest in the gaming community, and either they have received so much interest that they need more time to process the orders, or they received so little interest that they're going to hold off on releasing them until after the holidays.
At this point, let's just say I'm a little irked. I was led to believe that I'd have my games in hand in a week or two, and plenty of other people pre-ordered them before the original release date of Oct. 11. I wonder, did they get any email from Amazon about the change? Or did they find out about it the way I did?
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| 20 OCT 2005 at 4:28pm |
| Deleted User | I don't think I need to ask you this, but let us know as soon as you get some sort of update from Amazon on this please. Be it the arrival of your order or a notice of delayed shipping. Whatever you learn... I wonder if people were charged money for their orders already, and what will happen to them. Too early to come up with any good theories. It could be anything really.
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| 21 OCT 2005 at 8:33pm |
SusanGuild Master
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Status : Offline | This is why Susan doesn't buy her games until she can walk into a brick & mortar store and walk out with the game in her hands.
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| 26 JAN 2006 at 11:36pm |
RecklessJourneyman
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Status : Online | Looks like the release date has 'slipped' again....
This item will be released on March 30, 2006 is now to be found against all of the compilations! Vapourware
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| 27 JAN 2006 at 3:25pm |
The Angry DonIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | Being rather skeptical, I don't know if Sierra would bother with re-releasing old games. Seeing that most of the original staff aren't there and the real Sierra has been, more or less, dismantled. If they do... I'm up for all the Quest for Glorys. Loved that game.
So sad that Sierra decided to make their new generation games and kill off the older ones.
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| 27 JAN 2006 at 3:40pm |
AkhillesPrivate Detective
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By The Angry Don (27 JAN 2006 3:25pm)
Being rather skeptical, I don't know if Sierra would bother with re-releasing old games. Seeing that most of the original staff aren't there and the real Sierra has been, more or less, dismantled. If they do... I'm up for all the Quest for Glorys. Loved that game.
So sad that Sierra decided to make their new generation games and kill off the older ones.
The deception here is... there is no Sierra Online anymore. It's like Activision or Atari. Those names are for marketing purposes, they aren't the company their name originated before.
They're simply marketing machines now for other companies. Any re-releases they do are done by third party companies under the Sierra umbrella.
BTW: King's Quest Compilation on Amazon.com ~ This item will be released on March 30, 2006
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| 24 FEB 2006 at 4:03am |
demonryuIntergalactic Janitor
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Status : Online | From Gamespot:
Once upon a time, Sierra Entertainment, now a subsidiary of VU Games, was the leader in PC adventure games. It's most famous franchise was the King's Quest series, which originated in 1984, but the game's formula spread to space in Space Quest, the streets in Police Quest, and the hormonally charged libido of Leisure Suit Larry.
However, in order to give those games a whirl, today's gamers need a computer running on ancient operating systems.
That's about to change, thanks to some new re-releases from VU Games. A VUG representative confirmed to GameSpot that the publisher is preparing compilation packs of the above four series that will run on Windows XP.
Each set will contain multiple games in the series, but it is unknown exactly which ones will be included. The price of retro gaming won't be a king's ransom--the sets are priced at $20. No release dates have been announced, but product pages on online retailers' Web sites say the games will be available in late March. More information in expected in the upcoming weeks.
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| 25 FEB 2006 at 1:19am |
kuddlesPrivate Detective
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By demonryu (24 FEB 2006 4:02am)
Each set will contain multiple games in the series, but it is unknown exactly which ones will be included. The price of retro gaming won't be a king's ransom--the sets are priced at $20. No release dates have been announced, but product pages on online retailers' Web sites say the games will be available in late March. More information in expected in the upcoming weeks.
I would be very much interested in replaying the King's Quest games, and playing the SQ and PQ games I missed the first time around, but I'ld be pretty pissed if the "collections" are random. Having KQV and VII but not VI would be absurd. Playing them in XP though would be great, but I'll probably wait after it's released to find out if there are some horrible bugs that they don't feel like patching up.
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| 25 FEB 2006 at 6:20pm |
jujigatameSchattenjger
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Status : Online | I am most interested in the Police Quest and Space Quest series, since those were the ones I enjoyed the most in their heyday. I really want to know why they're not doing Quest for Glory, though.
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| 25 FEB 2006 at 8:33pm |
Jenny100Guild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By jujigatame (25 FEB 2006 6:20pm)
I really want to know why they're not doing Quest for Glory, though.
Me too.
I've already got the King's Quest and Police Quest Collections and have most of the Space Quests on floppy, but I don't have any of the Quest for Glory's (not legal versions anyway).
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