| 17 AUG 2005 at 1:33am |
trudysgardenSorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Online | Well Pastor, eh?
happy trails,
Carolyn
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| 17 AUG 2005 at 1:50am |
IviniaGuild Master
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Status : Offline | When I was 9, I moved from New Jersey to Ohio. Lots of people made fun of the way I talked "New Joysee", "Woda" (Water). Nothing bad, more just teasing. Being a kid though, you adapt to the new language quickly (Soda became pop, sneakers became tennis shoes, etc.)
In my early teens we moved to South Carolina. ifferent story. I remember being circled by a bunch of other kids saying, "You tawk funny, you muss be noth of da Mason Dixon line..." Heck, I didn't even know what the Mason Dixon line was...not fun. Got bullied a lot.
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| 17 AUG 2005 at 1:58am |
bdeckedSchattenjger
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Status : Online | Hey... don't y'all go knockin' the southern thang...
I lived in North Carolina for 12 years... and then moved north. I don't have much of any kind of accent now (I've been told that I have a "newscaster" accent, whatever that means).... but whenever I go back down south (or talk to one of my southern relatives) I start with the drawl and saying "y'all".
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| 17 AUG 2005 at 1:59am |
MissBSchattenjger
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Caroline (16 AUG 2005 11:00pm)
So my question. When Americans change coast or head north to Canada, do the locals comment on your different accent?
YES! I'm a Southerner and have been up North twice. Both times I had people eavesdropping on me just to hear my "charming" accent. And it's not just the accent that separates Southerner's and Northener's speech...it's also the rhythm and the speed. Northener's talk so fast! Good gracious, what's the big freakin' hurry? Unless Timmy's stuck in a well somewhere, there's no need to talk as if someone just did the heimlich maneuver on your brain! And, of course, those Yankees wish we would hurry along just a little bit--but we don't really care what they think anyway
My name is Bethany and I'm the daughter of Gamergal/Michelle.
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| 17 AUG 2005 at 2:01am |
MissBSchattenjger
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Avatar (17 AUG 2005 1:58am)
I lived in North Carolina for 12 years...
Whoohoo!!! I knew I liked you!! [smiley=hi_five.gif]
My name is Bethany and I'm the daughter of Gamergal/Michelle.
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| 17 AUG 2005 at 2:10am |
IviniaGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Pssst, why is Avatar a guest? id she abandon ship???
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| 17 AUG 2005 at 2:17am |
AvatarPrivate Detective
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Status : Online | Yes! This blatent geographic stereotyping based on speech type is horrifyingly appalling. I'm embarassed to even be SEEN with any of you. I'm leaving. Forever. And there's nothing you can do to bring me back.
(except maybe send me chocolate)
My goal in life is to be as good of a person as my dog already thinks I am.&&&&The measure of civility in a society is not how it treats those that are loved, but how it treats those that are hated.
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| 17 AUG 2005 at 2:20am |
AvatarPrivate Detective
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Michelle (17 AUG 2005 2:01am)
Whoohoo!!! I knew I liked you!! [smiley=hi_five.gif] :-* (yea, I'm still talking to Michelle. We southern gals have to stick together.)
My goal in life is to be as good of a person as my dog already thinks I am.&&&&The measure of civility in a society is not how it treats those that are loved, but how it treats those that are hated.
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| 17 AUG 2005 at 2:24am |
MissBSchattenjger
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Status : Online | What We Do With Yankee's 'Round Here:
Cost of welcome basket for your new Yankee neighbor (aka a box of MoonPies): $10
Cost of printer ink to Photoshop your kids birth certificates so it looks as if you named all 8 of them "Bubba": $25
(you may omit the above if you actually did name all your kids Bubba)
Cost of seeing your new Yankee neighbors pack up their stuff and go back where they came from: priceless
[smiley=rofl.gif]
My name is Bethany and I'm the daughter of Gamergal/Michelle.
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| 17 AUG 2005 at 2:26am |
ValGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Another Southerner (Alabama) here but my accent comes and goes depending on who I'm with!! I've had Northerners AND Southerners tell me they can't figure out where I'm from! Keep 'em guessing I say!
We can be heroes, just for one day.
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| 17 AUG 2005 at 2:31am |
IviniaGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Valadmin (17 AUG 2005 2:26am)
Another Southerner (Alabama) here but my accent comes and goes depending on who I'm with!!
Ivinia wonders what your Greek accent sounds like... :
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| 17 AUG 2005 at 2:35am |
IviniaGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Ya'll southerners are just plain mean when I yankee comes on down. I remember stting in the classroom and the teacher asked me a question and I said, "Uh huh." The whole class went silent as heads turned towards me.
"Crap!" I thought, "What did I do this time?"
"I don't know where you're from but when you are in my class you will speak appropriately and address me with either Yes Ma'am or No Ma'am. Do I make myself clear?"
"Uh huh"
"Excuse me?"
"Yes ma'am..."
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| 17 AUG 2005 at 2:38am |
AvatarPrivate Detective
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Status : Online | That's right, Ivinia... we teach manners. You're lucky you're a smart one... otherwise you might have earned another good ol' southern tradition... a GOOD WHUPPIN'.
My goal in life is to be as good of a person as my dog already thinks I am.&&&&The measure of civility in a society is not how it treats those that are loved, but how it treats those that are hated.
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| 17 AUG 2005 at 2:42am |
anthonyJourneyman
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Status : Offline | Fuhgetaboutit. I'm from New York. It's youse people dat got de axents.
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| 17 AUG 2005 at 2:43am |
MissBSchattenjger
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Avatar (17 AUG 2005 2:38am)
That's right, Ivinia... we teach manners. You're lucky you're a smart one... otherwise you might have earned another good ol' southern tradition... a GOOD WHUPPIN'.
[smiley=laughing.gif]
I still say "yes, ma'am" and "no, ma'am" not only to be polite, but because I firmly believe that my father will drop out of the sky and make me go out back to get a hickory if I don't!
My name is Bethany and I'm the daughter of Gamergal/Michelle.
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| 17 AUG 2005 at 4:55am |
CarolineJA+ Overseer
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Status : Offline | Are there any social status connotations associated with different American accents? Or is it more a question of vocabulary and grammar?
I'm just curious because, hailing from Liverpool as I do, my own accent was never considered wonderful and I even took elecution lessons at 14 to slow down my speech. Of course, coming out here was wonderful because suddenly it was a novelty but the sheer exhaustion of having to repeat everything encouraged me to amend my accent simply so I would be allowed to speak.
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| 17 AUG 2005 at 5:03am |
| Deleted User | Caroline, it's funny you post this now.
As a Seattlitte, we're pretty neutral in accent (or at least, we like to think we are).
I went up to Victoria last weekend. Most people were left coast accented, but I was not prepared for the guy in the liquor store.
"Where's the rye", I asked, looking for a rare label that I can't find in Washington state.
"You're standing in front of it. I mean, you must be from the states, eh? Here in Canada, we make our whiskey from rye, so when you ask for rye, I just point to all our whiskey's, ya know. And that's all rye, eh?
Of course, the above text doen't impart the accent, but let me just say, I was really holding back listening to the guy.
"Well, you see", I countered, "we have this here Canadian Club and Seagrams in the states, and we just call it Canadian whiskey, eh? But then, we have this thing called rye too, so like, what's that all aboot, eh?"
"Well, this is all rye", he replied, almost as if he was saying "these all go to eleven".
Okay, you had to be there. Let me just say, I think he was from Saskatchewan or something.
And yes, I do get comments from people from other US locales. Texas ain't Boston, and Jersey ain't Chicago.
Eh?
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| 17 AUG 2005 at 5:08am |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By Valadmin (17 AUG 2005 2:26am)
Another Southerner (Alabama) here but my accent comes and goes depending on who I'm with!! I've had Northerners AND Southerners tell me they can't figure out where I'm from! Keep 'em guessing I say!
I'm so with you here. When I joined the service--way back in the 70s--I was thrust into basic training with Americans from all over. I've always been highly adaptable to accents, but the combinations of all combined turned into some pretty brown accents from me, let me tell you.
Originally Posted By Caroline (17 AUG 2005 4:54am)
Are there any social status connotations associated with different American accents? Or is it more a question of vocabulary and grammar?
Both. Certain accents are locale associated, and some are stuck with the stigma of caste. "It's not boddle, it's bottle".
Then there's the whole ebonics thing. "We want tiggets, um, for boffus". That definitely places you.
The upper-crust Connecticut accents are sometimes hard to escape.
Texas is probably the most famous for accents, "I'll tell you wut! Grab dat tar arn for ma"
Chris
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| 17 AUG 2005 at 8:07am |
CarolineJA+ Overseer
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Status : Offline | Okay,
Frasier is set in Seattle and that seems to be a very mild neutral American accent.
Trip from Enterprise was from Texas and that was just lovely. [smiley=love.gif] Actually, I think it was his body that was lovely.... :-X [smiley=angel_smiley.gif]
I've heard Danny Devito and I imagine that is the New York accent? And The Nanny - what was that?
But Jackie Onasis - was here accent a standard upper class accent?
Mrs and Mrs Bush don't appear to have very broad accents but then I've only heard them make one or two statements.
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| 17 AUG 2005 at 2:17pm |
Sandy_SleuthPrivate Detective
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Status : Online | It depends where in NY you are. In NYC, the accent is different than in Buffalo.
I LOVE accents! Although I'm from the North, I Love southern accents!
I also love the accent of that Anthonio Bendarus!
But all accents are cool! I think it's because we do not think we have one!
I was laughing when i read about the southerner's thinking we Northerners talk fast! My brother moved to S. Carolina a few years ago. He said everything is done SLOWLY there. They talk slow, they move slow. But employers in the south love to hire people from the north, because we do everything faster, including work! My brother and his wife had no trouble getting a job there as soon as the employer saw he was from up north!
He said on his slowest day, he is faster than all of them!
He is picking up on the accent too! But It sounds cute!
My sister moved there too, and same thing! She has been promoted 3 times already!
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| 17 AUG 2005 at 2:54pm |
Pastor DisasterJourneyman
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Status : Online | Well, I can honestly say I never had much of a problem with it until I moved up here. I've lived in rural Wisconsin, then Minneapolis, Chicago, and Dallas, none of which presented much of an accent problem.
(Mind you, when I was in Dallas, my old geography teacher contacted me with a potential pastoral position in his church. Having been out of the area for almost a decade, his accent suddenly sounded thickly Norwegian.)
Then I move up to rural Alberta, Canada, and suddenly I'm the idiot that can't speak right. First there's the vocabulary. "What's a two-four? What's a keener? What stick should I keep on what ice?" Then there's the accent. The second year I was here, the Student Life department chose the theme of "Rooted." Now, I prounounce the "oo" with a modified short "u" sound (as in "book". Canadians (at least the ones around here) all pronounce it with a long "u" (as in "stool". So of course they had to pick me as the graduation speaker...
Personally, I hate my accent (midwestern U.S.). Simply put, it is the least inherently humorous accent in the entire world. Any other accent, even other U.S. ones, has a certain "smile factor" attached. This gives other comedians a leg up on me. You bring a Scot over here, the guy could read the phone book and people would be falling down laughing. Lucien, you could have a whole new career over here.
On the other hand, if I did have a different accent, it might be difficult to be taken seriously. I still crack up thinking about the (short lived) eTrade commercial with the guy in the emergency room because he has "money out the wazoo." (http://iamwill.com/movies/index.php?category_id=2&movie_id=28) The last line is his wife asking the proctologist if her husband's insurance covers the procedure. The (East Indian) proctologist responds, "Insurance? Madam, he has money coming out the wazoo!"
The accent totally makes the joke.
Dyslexics wonder why there isn't a word that means the same thing as "cinnamon."
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| 17 AUG 2005 at 3:06pm |
trudysgardenSorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Online | Yeah, well, you and I both know, Sandy, we do everything fast up here in NY to stay warm
I traveled around the states and Canada a lot when I was younger and apparently picked up a bit of this and that everywhere I lived. Hey - I still say "EH?". According to my kids I also "mispronounce" - roof (and anything that rhymes with it), Oswego - I say Os wee go, they say Swigo like the natives here, quarter - don't even get me started on this word and words that to me end in "een" and to them end in "inn". Also my Dad's from Brooklyn and we spent a lot of time there as kids and with other NY relatives so whenever we get together the accents really come out of the closet .
Oswego is a port city on Lake Ontario, the place is usually jumpin' with Canadians, Norwegians and right now there are huge ships from Vietnam bringing in turbines, etc for some windmill farm near the lake. It's very interesting to listen to people here talk and Oswegonians have their own localized accent in CNY.
happy trails,
Carolyn
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| 17 AUG 2005 at 5:02pm |
The Terror of the Wolf part 3Schattenjger
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Status : Online | It's quite strange.
When I was down in Sheffield last week, everyone said I had a Scottish accent.
But when I was in Philli last month, they all said I had a 'british' accent. And then, because I was wearing my New Zealand rugby shirt, asked if I was from there.
Very odd
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| 17 AUG 2005 at 5:19pm |
SarahJourneyman
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Status : Offline | My cousin just came back from America and the teacher called him rude to use his American accent. He was born and raised in United States and it was an insult to him. I wish I could punch the teacher. There's nothing rude about his accent. Is this only happening in my country?
I grew up in Southern Illinois before coming back to my country. I still have my accent and I still don't feel comfortable when I use asian english accent. People here prefer British accent and yes some people aren't used to American accent especially when I say something very fast :. But of course there's always the ntional language.
Still busy being a mom &&
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