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| 21 JUL 2005 at 10:46am |
CarolineJA+ Overseer
Posts : 16540
Joined: 28 JAN 2007
Location: AU
Status : Offline | Enjoy.
I get lost too easily. I couldn't finish Rhem 1. Still waiting for the rescue team to arrive and helicopter me to safety.... or, failing that, some other sucker to arrive by train so I can sneak off ....
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| 21 JUL 2005 at 10:59am |
colpetSchattenjger
Posts : 1630
Joined: 12 APR 2003
Status : Offline | Keep us posted! I'll be saving this one until the fall/winter when I have more time to devote and savor
Occasionally visiting Uru Live (KI 0063722 .&&
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| 21 JUL 2005 at 11:12am |
| Deleted User | Played it for an hour, saw all kinds of intriguing signs, schemes and things that don't do anything (yet), and have already lost my way several times. Good work, Knut!
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| 21 JUL 2005 at 12:15pm |
jamarchandSchattenjger
Posts : 1665
Joined: 10 OCT 2002
Status : Offline | Great game! My dream is Rhem in a 5 cd-set.
 &&&&[move]Actually playing SHIVERS and Rhem 2[/move]&&
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| 21 JUL 2005 at 5:17pm |
bdeckedSchattenjger
Posts : 1620
Joined: 14 OCT 2011
Status : Online | Originally Posted By Caroline (21 JUL 2005 10:46am)
Enjoy. I get lost too easily. I couldn't finish Rhem 1. Still waiting for the rescue team to arrive and helicopter me to safety.... or, failing that, some other sucker to arrive by train so I can sneak off ....
(you and I are both waiting for another sucker to arrive... )
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| 21 JUL 2005 at 5:40pm |
AvakaJourneyman
Posts : 1437
Joined: 17 SEP 2003
Status : Online | I was playing the demo of Rhem2. Still no luck. I have no directional fortitude. NONE. I have a hard time with games that are the flash-card types. Never could make any sense of Lights Out either.
But I do keep going back to Rhem2 just for the fun of it. Can't say the same thing for Lights Out.
Myst IV - Never finished it. Got frustrated with it.&&Myst V - Did not finish it either. Very disappointing.&&ATTWN - BORING!!! Never finished it. Kept falling asleep.&&Paradise - So far .... not so good&&Voyage - Not on my favorite list
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| 21 JUL 2005 at 9:04pm |
Jenny100Guild Master
Posts : 3510
Joined: 12 OCT 2002
Status : Offline | It's easier to keep track of where you are in RHEM 2 than it was in the first RHEM. So getting lost isn't such a problem (except in the glass maze).
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| 21 JUL 2005 at 10:50pm |
AntoinettaIntergalactic Janitor
Posts : 89
Joined: 22 OCT 2002
Status : Online | After playing Rhem I for about half an hour, I had become totally lost, and realized that unless I was locked up in solitary confinement in Folsom or San Quentin for 20 years with my computer and the game, there would be no finishing of this game without a walk-thru. So I printed up the most detailed one I could find and proceeded to follow its instructions meticulously, mouse-click by mouse-click. And even so, when I was probably about 90% of the way through the game, I made a wrong turn or threw a wrong switch or something, and became again hopelessly lost. This was shortly after Rhem I came out, and I gave up at this point. Now, I am going to have to reload the game and try again, before tackling Rhem II.
Antoinetta
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| 22 JUL 2005 at 1:09am |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By Antoinetta (21 JUL 2005 10:50pm)
After playing Rhem I for about half an hour, I had become totally lost, and realized that unless I was locked up in solitary confinement in Folsom or San Quentin for 20 years with my computer and the game, there would be no finishing of this game without a walk-thru. So I printed up the most detailed one I could find and proceeded to follow its instructions meticulously, mouse-click by mouse-click. And even so, when I was probably about 90% of the way through the game, I made a wrong turn or threw a wrong switch or something, and became again hopelessly lost. This was shortly after Rhem I came out, and I gave up at this point.
Half an hour isn't enough for a game like Rhem. Not by a long shot. Getting lost, drawing a map, making notes, figuring out what those buttons and levers do, that's the fun of it.
Following a walkthrough doesn't make it any easier. On the contrary. All the backtracking and attempts to solve problems that help gamers to find their way, have been done for you.
But I agree with Jenny, although I haven't gotten very far and I'm taking it very slowly. It's easier to know where you are in Rhem 2, there are more landmarks and more mysterious signs, buttons and clues on the way, which helps a lot. Elevators and higher/lower levels still confuse me, but that's just me.
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| 22 JUL 2005 at 1:42am |
colpetSchattenjger
Posts : 1630
Joined: 12 APR 2003
Status : Offline | Following a walkthrough doesn't make it any easier. On the contrary. All the backtracking and attempts to solve problems that help gamers to find their way, have been done for you.
I heartily agree. After all the to-ing and fro-ing, much of Rhem was like an old familiar neighborhood.
Occasionally visiting Uru Live (KI 0063722 .&&
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| 22 JUL 2005 at 1:57am |
bdeckedSchattenjger
Posts : 1620
Joined: 14 OCT 2011
Status : Online | I actually printed out a map of RHEM 1 after wandering around for about a month, and it confused me more... so I took my time and ended making my own map. I can nagivate much better, but the puzzles still stumped me... so this is one of those games taht I'll probably take a few years to finish...
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| 22 JUL 2005 at 3:49am |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By Avatar (22 JUL 2005 1:57am)
I actually printed out a map of RHEM 1 after wandering around for about a month, and it confused me more... so I took my time and ended making my own map.
I wonder how many other people spent considerable time on this without making a map. I don't think I played it much past the intro before reaching for the graph paper. Doesn't this kind of game demand a map?
Chris
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| 22 JUL 2005 at 2:11pm |
TrunkyoIntergalactic Janitor
Posts : 48
Joined: 13 JUL 2004
Status : Offline | Yep, a map of Rhem is definitely necessary, if only to see how large and amazingly interconnected the place really is! ??? And make sure you have lots of paper!
I mentioned some time ago how my own map of Rhem looks absolutely hilarious, mainly because it consists of several sheets of paper (instead of one large page), with dozens of arrows and notes like "continued on page 3a - Radio Complex" scribbled on the edge! : Also, I forgot to map a 90-degree turn somewhere, so one of my pages looks stupidly wrong (more arrows! :) Silly me. :-[
One of the best maps of Rhem can be found here. It's incredibly detailed , but of course, contains a ton of spoilers! Use at your own risk!
Looking forward to Rhem 2,
T.
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| 22 JUL 2005 at 3:27pm |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By Trunkyo (22 JUL 2005 2:11pm)
I mentioned some time ago how my own map of Rhem looks absolutely hilarious, mainly because it consists of several sheets of paper (instead of one large page), with dozens of arrows and notes like "continued on page 3a - Radio Complex" scribbled on the edge! :
Hey, that sounds exactly like the maps I draw!
I start mapping and run out of paper to the left, new sheet, run out of paper to the right, start all over again to do it better the second time and end up with dozens of sheets. Levels are a huge problem for me too, although I use different colored pencils.
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| 22 JUL 2005 at 3:58pm |
bdeckedSchattenjger
Posts : 1620
Joined: 14 OCT 2011
Status : Online | Me too! Color coded, "continued on page 3", arrows, etc etc.... different symbols for stairs, doorways & tunnels... hahahaha
Yea, that was the map that I tried to use, Trunkyo, but it confused me more... so I went back to my scribblings :-)
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| 22 JUL 2005 at 4:19pm |
Lady KestrelGuild Master
Posts : 4038
Joined: 27 SEP 2004
Location: US, NJ
Status : Offline | There are certain sections of Rhem that are imprinted permanently in my synapses, but once in a while I would be working in an area and forget how I got there. A couple of screens would remind me, so I'd just draw a basic connecting map. It sort of reminds me of an octopus cavorting with several bagpipes.
"Where is the fountain that throws up these flowers in a ceaseless outbreak of ecstasy?"
-Rabindranath Tagore
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| 22 JUL 2005 at 8:27pm |
jamarchandSchattenjger
Posts : 1665
Joined: 10 OCT 2002
Status : Offline | Rhem don't requires maps. Requires pape notes, lots of them.
It's absolutelly possible solve the game without walktrus, maps and hints.
A little patience is necessairy. It's a wonderful game.
&&&&[move]Actually playing SHIVERS and Rhem 2[/move]&&
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| 23 JUL 2005 at 4:21am |
| Deleted User | Originally Posted By Trunkyo (22 JUL 2005 2:11pm)
I mentioned some time ago how my own map of Rhem looks absolutely hilarious, mainly because it consists of several sheets of paper (instead of one large page), with dozens of arrows and notes like "continued on page 3a - Radio Complex" scribbled on the edge!
The only thing that matters is that you understand it, eh?
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| 25 JUL 2005 at 2:31pm |
TrunkyoIntergalactic Janitor
Posts : 48
Joined: 13 JUL 2004
Status : Offline | @ Chris-Speck Yep, you said it! Kinda like my handwriting... ??? )
BTW, I'll be replaying RHEM soon, in anticipation of the sequel... I'll probably make my 13-year old cousin Kevin play it as well! ("Here, take this very, very large sheet of paper..." ) I'm being the evil cousin right now [smiley=devil_smiley_grintail.gif], "coercing" him to play Alida during his summer vacation (eventually rewarding him with the new Harry Potter book!)
He really loves funny 3rd-person adventures (Monkey Island series, DOTT, Sam & Max), but I usually have to give him some kind of "incentive" to play 1st-person games!
*wonders if "RHEM" stands for the names of Knut Müller's wife and sons ???*
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| 25 JUL 2005 at 2:52pm |
| Deleted User | I'm enjoying Rhem 2 a lot. So far, it's even better than the first Rhem, thanks to Knut's improvements. Not that I've made much progress... I've solved only one multi-step puzzle to gain access to new areas, and trying to make sense of the many clues.
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