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4 JUN 2005 at 1:59pm

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I am really in the mood to get more FMV games.  Can anyone make a recommendation?

I have played Phantasmagoria already.  I am not aware of many others.  Thanks for any help.  

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4 JUN 2005 at 2:34pm

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Conspiracies, Tex Murphy
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4 JUN 2005 at 2:37pm

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Gabriel Knight 2!

You might find something on this website:
http://www.interactivemovies.org/



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4 JUN 2005 at 3:05pm
Deleted UserHere's my list. Mixed bag. Includes DOS games, oldies, puzzle games, good, bad and rare ones.

7th Guest - 11th Hour - *Bad Mojo - *Black Dahlia - Blue Heat (fully FMV) - *Byzantine: The Betrayal - City 2000 London - Congo: Descent into Zinj - Conspiracies - The Dame Was Loaded - *Dark Side of the Moon - Dust  - *Gabriel Knight 2 (fully FMV) - *Golden Gate - Gothos - Hamlet: A Murder Mystery - Hard Evidence: the Marilyn Monroe Files (edutainment) - *In the First Degree (fully FMV) - *Journeyman Project  2 + 3 - Lost in Time - Midnight Stranger (fully FMV) - Mirage - Missing/In Memoriam - Mode (fully FMV) - *Morpheus - The Morlov Affair - Night Trap (not a real adventure) - *Noir: A Shadow Thriller - Phantasmagoria 1 + 2 - Puppet Motel (not a real adventure) - Rama - Reah - *Ripper - Return to Zork - Riddle of master Lu - Santa Fe Mysteries 1 + 2 -- SFPD: Body in the Bay - Spycraft - Synnergist  - *Temujin (fully FMV) - *Tex Murphy 3 + 4 + 5 - Titanic: Out of Time - Vampire Diaries - Voyeur 1 + 2 (fully FMV) - Wrath of the Gods (edutainment) - X Files (fully FMV) - Zelenhgorm - *Zork GI - *Zork Nemesis
                             
Some FMV:
     
Adventure at the Chateau d’Or - Cassandra Galleries - all Myst games - *Obsidian - Opsys - Riddle of the Sphinx 1 + 2 - Shivers 2 - GAG - Chaos: A Fantasy Adventure - Toonstruck

* = I loved it and it's affordable.

4 JUN 2005 at 3:13pm

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Oh my goodness!!  that's quite a list!!!  i'm impressed

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4 JUN 2005 at 3:17pm
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Originally Posted By Avatar (4 JUN 2005 3:13pm)
Oh my goodness!!  that's quite a list!!!  i'm impressed


[whispering on]

I haven't played all of them. Yet.

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4 JUN 2005 at 7:56pm

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Amber - Azreal's Tears - Ark Of Time - 1893 A World Fair's Mystery - Blackstone Chronicles - L.A. Pursuit Of Justice 1, 2, 3 - A Fork In A Tale - Mortaalus -  Mission Critical - Psychotron - Fox Hunt - Hardline - Harvester - Physich Detective - Callahan's Crosstime Saloon - Connections - Frankentein - Cracking The Conspiracy - A Quit Weekend In Capri - Majestic - Treasure's Quest - Treasure Hunt - Syn Factor - Vikings - VET Emergency - Point Of View - Eraser Turnabout - Schizm - Dark Seed 1, 2 - Mean Streets - Martian Memorandum - Eve - Dracula Unleashed - Erevos

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4 JUN 2005 at 8:38pm
Deleted UserYour definition of FMV includes pretty much everything Jamarchand  


4 JUN 2005 at 8:51pm

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There was a page with a list somewhere, but I can't find it any more.

Riddle of Master Lu...  :'(
I want that back. One of the best.
Betje, if you didn't enjoy it you didn't play it yet.  


@JM
Does 1893 really have FMV? I thought it's pure IF.  ???
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4 JUN 2005 at 9:27pm
Deleted UserNot quite, Elfstone.  


I played some of it. Years ago. Liked it, but very difficult. Got a new computer, got distracted, uninstalled it. Later. Wanted to play it again, stupid game refused to install. Don't know what to do. Lazy. Still on shelf.

No, 1893 doesn't have FMV, cause the M stands for Moving.  
Same goes for Blackstone Chronicles, only photo's. And Capri. He's right about Schizm and Amber, but Psychic Detective, Dracula Unleashed and Point of View are interactive movies.  Callahan's, Cracking the conspiracy, Mean Streets? Don't remember any FMV. Some non-adventures... hm... don't know about the rest.

PS: I interpreted FMV as real people, live actors.

4 JUN 2005 at 10:43pm

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FMV is about filmed sequences.....Not just actors.

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4 JUN 2005 at 10:57pm

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The dev community comments I have read usually define the Full Motion Video category to be games that use FMV extensively. These can involve real actors and/or computer created visuals. Typical formats include video streams such as AVI and MPEG.  

In other words, there is no requirement that live actors be used at all.

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4 JUN 2005 at 11:10pm

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Yes, FMV doesn't require any actors. But I'm still curious about 1893. Could it be an IF game with FMV? I guess the little pictures in the corner just turn into a video at some places, something like that?
[b]playing[/b]: Destination Treasure Island (done in two sittings, but it's nice), Syberia (ho-hum), Dracula: Last Sanctuary (on hold)&&[b]reading[/b]: even more study papers&&[b]listening to[/b]: [url=http://www.last.fm/user/Brax82/]this and that[/url], plus [url=http://www.musicovery.com/]Musicovery[/url]&&[b]TV favorites[/b]: (currently) Pushing Daisies, Chuck, Journeyman (cancelled! grrr...), Heroes&&
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5 JUN 2005 at 12:13am
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Originally Posted By jamarchand (4 JUN 2005 10:43pm)
FMV is about filmed sequences.....Not just actors.


True. But most gamers associate FMV with real people instead of handdrawn or computer-generated characters. When someone wants to know about FMV adventures, I bet they're not thinking of filmed sequences.

5 JUN 2005 at 12:15am
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Originally Posted By Elfstone (4 JUN 2005 11:10pm)
Yes, FMV doesn't require any actors. But I'm still curious about 1893. Could it be an IF game with FMV? I guess the little pictures in the corner just turn into a video at some places, something like that?


Little pics in the corner? I don't know what you mean. I have the game. It's IF with black-and-white photographs of the world fair in 1893.  

5 JUN 2005 at 1:58am
Deleted UserBetje's already mentioned Dark Side of the Moon, but I'd just like to mention that it's one of my favourite games ever. You should play it.


I bet you never knew I liked Dark Side of the Moon before.  


5 JUN 2005 at 9:28am

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Thanks for some good leads!  

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5 JUN 2005 at 4:16pm

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i tried conspiricies
2 minutes of playing and it was closed down, never to be run again.
I found the FMV sequences to be bloody irritating and time consuming.
When i got into the game, the "world" you go into was woeful. Really dodgy pologon obects you'd expect on a commodore 64.
But i gave it a chance, thinking theres more to a game than graphics..
then i tried to go outside- the character wouldn't go outside until i had made him a cup of tea! -stuff that
Sweet

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6 JUN 2005 at 2:40am

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How about Urban Runner?


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10 JUN 2005 at 8:42pm

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Well, I'm happy to see 3 of my games on the FMV list, and thanks people for the kind words! As to whether FMV should have live actors in it, I'd say it has to otherwise it shouldn't be called that. Just having cutscenes/cinematics isn't enough. Real actors on real sets or in rendered backgrounds equals FMV to me (and yes motion is important! Being able to use real people was what drew me to it in the first place.

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11 JUN 2005 at 6:39pm

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I have always felt that if the same amount of money and research was spent on FMV as they have put into 3D  it would stll be the number one way to produce adventure games.  There were a couple of flops and no one could see that FMV was not the reason and all they saw was the money the was lost.  There are ways to use FMV without spending fortunes and I am sure they could be found easily.  3D is better for action games but I don't feel it works good for adventures.  Old style adventures are basicly interactive movies and movies need actors. Sierra had the right idea games like GK2 and Phantasmagoria but in those days the computers just didn't have to power to do them right.  This is not the case now.  Tex Murphy UAKM and PD where also great examples of what could be done with FMV but there again the computers of those days were not up to it. Just think if one of those old game was remade now in FMV what it would look like on our new fast computers with dvd readers.  I think a good game engine made specificly for hadling FMV clips would solve all the problems and make it all easy again.  There will always be a place for 3d adventure games too but they will never be good at doing games that deal with real life situations and real peaple.


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12 JUN 2005 at 12:48am
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Originally Posted By LeeS (10 JUN 2005 8:41pm)
Well, I'm happy to see 3 of my games on the FMV list, and thanks people for the kind words!


Looking forward to number 4!  



12 JUN 2005 at 12:51am
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Originally Posted By jalex (11 JUN 2005 6:39pm)
I have always felt that if the same amount of money and research was spent on FMV as they have put into 3D  it would stll be the number one way to produce adventure games.  


I'm a sucker for games with real people too, but I don't think FMV will ever be back.  

12 JUN 2005 at 3:31pm

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"I'm a sucker for games with real people too, but I don't think FMV will ever be back."

They may....with DVD compression and system specs the way they are, a person could do a really decent FMV game. Assuming anyone wanted to of course.

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12 JUN 2005 at 5:18pm

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Originally Posted By Kenif (5 JUN 2005 4:15pm)
i tried conspiricies
2 minutes of playing and it was closed down, never to be run again.
I found the FMV sequences to be bloody irritating and time consuming.
When i got into the game, the "world" you go into was woeful. Really dodgy pologon obects you'd expect on a commodore 64.
But i gave it a chance, thinking theres more to a game than graphics..
then i tried to go outside- the character wouldn't go outside until i had made him a cup of tea! -stuff that

I liked  conspiricies a lot but you are right there were things that could have been done better.   A lot of the charators looked like they were pasted on a drawn screen but I got used to the look because I liked the story.  I am looking forword to the next one because I think the new engine may fix all of that and if it has as good a story it will be perfect. I found the dvd version worked a lot better for me if you havn't tried it.



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