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Topic: Adventure games- two genres?

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5 JAN 2003 at 11:08pm
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Originally Posted By Elfstone (5 JAN 2003 5:54pm)
Poor Fickfack, we strayed off this topic really much...


I'm all right.




5 JAN 2003 at 11:38pm

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Originally Posted By Fickfack (5 JAN 2003 11:08pm)


I'm all right.

that's the spirit!

You have gotten the attention of the mysterious lady. She turns to face you. Her face is devoid of any flesh. You are frozen with horror as she begins ripping your body into a bloody mess.


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6 JAN 2003 at 2:53am

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See told ya he'd be fine...he's strong and flexible...
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6 JAN 2003 at 11:45am

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Originally Posted By stooge4444 (6 JAN 2003 2:53am)
See told ya he'd be fine...he's strong and flexible...

and everyone should be like that, not stiff as..... nevermind  :

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6 JAN 2003 at 6:44pm

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Lord, I think we ARE all nuts.

There is NO SECOND PERSON IN GAMING.  Only 1st and 3rd.  Second Person means "you."  It DOES have to do with grammar in that it based on Point Of View.

There's only one 2nd person novel I'm aware of:  Bright Lights, Big City.  It's really quite a stunt; the whole book is like this:  "You wake up and your head is aching."  Like that.

Now, on to the "over the shoulder" 3rd person that some are calling 2nd person.  Typified by Lara Croft in Tomb Raider.  And a million action games.  I actually think this is a modified 1st person.  The scenery is changing as you and the character move through it, as opposed to moving a little person around on a static screen.

Thus, Omikron is really more like a 1st person game than a 3rd person game.  So there.

By the way, and example of a 3rd person adventure game that's not purely inventory-driven:  
iscworld Noir.

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6 JAN 2003 at 9:08pm
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Originally Posted By GrammarTroll (6 JAN 2003 6:44pm)
Lord, I think we ARE all nuts.

There is NO SECOND PERSON IN GAMING.  Only 1st and 3rd.

Technically, yes- but we're hairsplitting here. The whole topic is about hair-splitting- essentially all of the subgenres we've been talking about are still adventure games.  


Originally Posted By GrammarTroll (6 JAN 2003 6:44pm)
By the way, and example of a 3rd person adventure game that's not purely inventory-driven:  Discworld Noir.

There's your answer alkis21  

We should give out prizes for this sort of thing.

Thanks everyone for an insightful discussion.


6 JAN 2003 at 9:30pm

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Originally Posted By Aya_Brea (6 JAN 2003 11:45am)

and everyone should be like that, not stiff as..... me  :


Yes, you're right, Aya!

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6 JAN 2003 at 9:34pm

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6 JAN 2003 at 10:07pm

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Originally Posted By stooge4444 (6 JAN 2003 9:33pm)
Aditionally, I just got my Compilers book that I ordered on Friday; it cost $45 brand new.

Which book is it? And yes, this kind of literature is awfully expensive.
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6 JAN 2003 at 11:46pm

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Originally Posted By Elfstone (6 JAN 2003 9:30pm)

Yes, you're right, Aya!

oh i see... you finally realised i was right and you were wrong and now you tried to divert the attention!

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7 JAN 2003 at 2:04am

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Compilers: Principles, Techniques, and Tools.  With Red dragon and Knight on cover...I think that might be a D&
joke...

I thought the class would be boring but it actually looks really neato frito...
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7 JAN 2003 at 5:10am

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Originally Posted By stooge4444 (7 JAN 2003 2:04am)
Compilers: Principles, Techniques, and Tools.  With Red dragon and Knight on cover...I think that might be a D&
joke...

By Aho, Ullman and Sethi... I don't think it's a D&
joke (could be wrong though). Pretty heavy reading
The Dragon Book is probably the most famous book on compiler design.
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7 JAN 2003 at 5:17am

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Or so I've been told...

Did you actually remember their names or did you look them up?
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7 JAN 2003 at 7:19pm

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@Aya
*grumble*
Dirty trickster...or tricksteress who knows.  

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7 JAN 2003 at 7:22pm

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Originally Posted By stooge4444 (7 JAN 2003 5:17am)
Did you actually remember their names or did you look them up?

I actually remember their names. Is that bad?

I forgot my sig.

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7 JAN 2003 at 8:25pm

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Stooge, are you still "defining underlying support"?  


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7 JAN 2003 at 9:01pm

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Ok......I've played the adventure game 'Tender Loving Care', the dvd version. It's a FVM game. Which genre would you consider it in?

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7 JAN 2003 at 9:10pm

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Interactive Videos Belinda...it kind of is an ADventure.  I saw it at an EB; did you like the game?

No it's not bad to know one author.  Two of the authors is a little strange but not a bit strange.  But three is extremely not strange at all...You follow?  I guess I'll remember Aho...

Of course this is support, compilers make everything possible...

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7 JAN 2003 at 10:23pm

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Authors?? Stooge......what you talking about? *head spinning now*.......
I thought you's here were talking about genre for 1st or 3rd person games??
I really liked playing TLC. I wish they made more of these. It was very interesting.

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7 JAN 2003 at 10:44pm

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Belinda, if you don't understand parts of my language, someone else will...

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7 JAN 2003 at 10:50pm

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Originally Posted By stooge4444 (7 JAN 2003 9:09pm)
No it's not bad to know one author.  Two of the authors is a little strange but not a bit strange.  But three is extremely not strange at all...You follow?

I think I do


Of course this is support, compilers make everything possible...

Very true.
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7 JAN 2003 at 11:00pm

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Originally Posted By stooge4444 (7 JAN 2003 9:09pm)
Of course this is support, compilers make everything possible...

Is it possible for compilers to find the meaning of Life?

Slightly Deranged - Cult Cinema And Games!

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7 JAN 2003 at 11:34pm

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Originally Posted By Rael (7 JAN 2003 11:00pm)
Is it possible for compilers to find the meaning of Life?

Compilers will enable you to write the program that does that

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7 JAN 2003 at 11:53pm

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I don't know; what's the meaning of life?
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8 JAN 2003 at 12:11am

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Originally Posted By stooge4444 (7 JAN 2003 11:52pm)
I don't know; what's the meaning of life?

Sex Sleep Eat Drink Dream?

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