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14 MAR 2005 at 4:15pm

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some ppl here know my past with gk3... started it once when it first came out and realized it featured the most awful control system i've ever experienced (along with really bad gfx and a very annoying voice by tim curry)... it was so bad, i couldn't continue... few years later ppl on this forum convinced me to give it another chance, and i did... but the control system once again took away any enjoyment i could get out of the game, so once again i put it aside... this third time around though, Valerie took over the control system, so i could finally enjoy the game

and "ENJOY" is the word! i believe that gk3 is the best gk by far (gk1 being my favorite until now)... excluding the final sequence (from the bridge on), everything was perfect - puzzle-wise, story-wise and atmosphere-wise... and although the gfx were pretty crappy, they didn't take away anything from the atmosphere, which actually was boosted by a great soundtrack!

we did come across a couple of frustrating pixel hunting cases, but they can be considered minor drawbacks... as for the (in)famous le serpent rouge, before playing the game i was wondering what all the fuss was about, but now i have to admit it's probably one of the best puzzles i've ever come across (some lever-junkies need to see this to learn what the word "puzzle" really means!
)... on the downside, the map manipulation did have a couple of frustrating bits (esp at the serpent part), but didn't ruin the puzzle

anyone who hasn't played gk3 should definately give it a try (if you can't stand the controls, find someone that can and play with them!)

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14 MAR 2005 at 4:38pm

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I'm playing the whole trilogy back-to-back for the first time, and I'm currently starting the second (this may take a short hiatus, however, because The Moment of Silence came in the mail today).

I really can't wait to play the third one to see what all the (positive and negative) hoopla is about.

It is just me or is the second one significantly easier? Mind you I just started, and the story is too engaging for me to really care.
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14 MAR 2005 at 5:54pm

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There's at least half a dozen games that JA members have recommended or discussed; games that I never had any interest in, but figured they were worth looking into if people talked about them so much.

Here we have a perfect example of how you can't let something like the interface get in the way of enjoying a good game.  

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14 MAR 2005 at 5:59pm

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Or maybe a case of get the wife to do all the hard work while you enjoy all the benefits.


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14 MAR 2005 at 7:21pm

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Originally Posted By Lucien21 (14 MAR 2005 5:59pm)
Or maybe a case of get the wife to do all the hard work while you enjoy all the benefits.

You sound like you've got experience with that


I could never quite decide if GK2 or GK3 was better, but they are certainly excellent games both. I didn't think the GK3 controls were awful, but they certainly are unusual. And yes, the GK games have excellent music! Might be the best in any adventure game (or any other game for that matter).
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14 MAR 2005 at 8:05pm

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Interesting how different things affect people differently. I never gave a 2nd thought to the GK3 control system. However, some of the voices were rather irritating.

Aya: now that you have had a 180 degree change in opinion about GK3, maybe it's finally time to play Myst & Riven once and for all! (Just have Val do the point & clicking!  
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14 MAR 2005 at 9:03pm

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Originally Posted By SirDave (14 MAR 2005 8:05pm)

Aya: now that you have had a 180 degree change in opinion about GK3, maybe it's finally time to play Myst & Riven once and for all! (Just have Val do the point & clicking!  
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i have told him this about a million times...  

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14 MAR 2005 at 9:07pm

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Aya,

So glad you finally have played GK3 - wonderful game. I still tend to prefer GK2 - well, that is until I play GK3 and then once more, like Michal, I'm not quite sure which is the best!

I've never understood however what you think is wrong with the controls - never had a problem with them myself - as for the music in the whole series - pretty hard to beat I'd say!!  


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14 MAR 2005 at 10:03pm

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Ah, I just replayed the first two GK games...but I think I wont replay the third one now since I did so only a few months ago. They still are my favorite games, it's so sad to play them and know there wont be more.

I actually liked the control system in GK3! I found it quite intuitive. Maybe I'm weird.

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14 MAR 2005 at 10:49pm
Deleted UserI don't believe it. I thought everyone on these boards LOVED GK3 first up. I haven't finished playing it because of the EXACT reasons Aya mentioned. Its the crappiest interface I have ever had the displeasure of using. Its cumbersome... its not efficient...

Anyway, by coincidence, I reinstalled the game on Sunday and tried to play... Sure, the interface is usable (just not great)... The voices didnt bother me too much, but for some reason on my Win2K machine, it would just lockupo for a few seconds (10 or so) every 30 seconds or more... So, I have still yet to finish GK3.

I do remember from my first attempts though some annoying "features" where I seemed to be restricted from continuing down a completely open road because it was the wrong day or something... Anyway, I think I'm past this game now...

I'm now playing anachronix instead... The graphics are dated, but there's nothing like an efficient interface to help you forget the "outdated" graphics.

14 MAR 2005 at 11:52pm

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Nice, Aya!
Now you know why GK3 is one of my favorite games of all time. Even if you can't get used to the control system which is in my opinion the best ever.  

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15 MAR 2005 at 1:34am

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Gk3 was good but I didn't like the control system or the gfx too much ether.  I would say I liked the story in gk3 the best but I still like gk2 the best of all of them because I liked every part of it.


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15 MAR 2005 at 2:19am

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I hated the interface and control, had such a hard time with it, sometimes I would get nauseaus, [smiley=eww.gif] I tell ya I suffered to get thru that game, but still enjoyed it, thought it had a great storyline and good puzzles, but GK1 is still my favorite in the series.  


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15 MAR 2005 at 3:01am

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I don't understand how you can call it the best of the series when it the numerous severe problems that you listed.

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15 MAR 2005 at 8:21am

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Why are ppl on this forum always complaining about the controls in GK3, Grim Fandango en BS3  :-/

Just like Aya, you are missing out on some great games out there. :'(

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15 MAR 2005 at 11:52am

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Originally Posted By Eva (14 MAR 2005 10:02pm)

I actually liked the control system in GK3! I found it quite intuitive. Maybe I'm weird.


I'm with you there all the way! So what if we're weirdos?  
To be honest, I thought GK3 had one of the best control systems ever! Just very easy to move around, good choice to  be able to control the 'camera', and with the escape button, the character didn't take half an hour to get to the other side of the screen. Now some games could learn form that (Syberia anyone? :
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15 MAR 2005 at 1:08pm

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I easily get vertigo so have problems with some games,
especially 1st. person, usually takes me some time on some of those to try and adjust to be able to play without geting sick, I dont mind keyboard controls at all
and loved Grim Fandango, but it also didnt make me sick, you know sometimes its hard to get into a game
if the interface is hard to navigate, for me, I have to wait until the right time and mood, so I can sit down and
get used to the controls, another game I forced myself to play and loved was "System Shock 2" sometimes afterward I would have to lay down for a bit, there are a few games I have had to abandon though that I just couldnt get thru because of the panning, just totally nauseated me.  [smiley=shrug.gif]

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15 MAR 2005 at 3:06pm

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Originally Posted By jujigatame (15 MAR 2005 3:00am)
I don't understand how you can call it the best of the series when it the numerous severe problems that you listed.

that's cause i judge adventures by substance, ie storyline, puzzles etc... "surface" stuff like gfx or voiceovers will never make me think less of an adventure... really bad controls though might make it hard for me to play, but i usually get over it - in gk3's case i couldn't though... i hated grim fandango's controls too, but not as bad, so i did play anyway and loved the game!

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15 MAR 2005 at 5:26pm

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Originally Posted By Wimli (15 MAR 2005 11:52am)
Just very easy to move around, good choice to  be able to control the 'camera', and with the escape button, the character didn't take half an hour to get to the other side of the screen. Now some games could learn form that (Syberia anyone? :
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15 MAR 2005 at 9:47pm

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Originally Posted By Steve Dorian (15 MAR 2005 5:25pm)

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16 MAR 2005 at 12:31am

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Originally Posted By Wimli (15 MAR 2005 11:52am)


I'm with you there all the way! So what if we're weirdos?  
To be honest, I thought GK3 had one of the best control systems ever! Just very easy to move around, good choice to  be able to control the 'camera', and with the escape button, the character didn't take half an hour to get to the other side of the screen. Now some games could learn form that (Syberia anyone? :
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Hi all


I havent posted here in a very long time so the majority of you won't remember me ???
But I just wanted to say, as a comeback to the forums, that GK3 is by far the best of the series.
I am a major fan of the GK games but GK3 imo has the best graphics, story and interface of them all


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I also think GK3 is one of the best adventures I ever played. I've played 1 and 3, and it's sometimes difficult for me to decide which one is better.

Gotta also agree on the interface, I thought it was brilliant, and I always wanted to see another game use it again.

Great puzzles, great interface, great characters and story. GK3 is a superb game. [smiley=detective.gif]
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16 MAR 2005 at 5:39am
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Originally Posted By DJ Souza (16 MAR 2005 3:53am)
Gotta also agree on the interface, I thought it was brilliant, and I always wanted to see another game use it again.


The main reason the interface wasn't used in other games is because it flat out sucked! Elementary my dear watson!  




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Originally Posted By Bazza_v2.5 (16 MAR 2005 5:38am)


The main reason the interface wasn't used in other games is because it flat out sucked! Elementary my dear watson!  





Aah, but there have gathered sufficient witnesses here to contradict your statement, dear sir. No no, not so elementary my dear Bazza!  


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16 MAR 2005 at 12:21pm

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Originally Posted By DJ Souza (16 MAR 2005 3:53am)
I also think GK3 is one of the best adventures I ever played. I've played 1 and 3, and it's sometimes difficult for me to decide which one is better.

Try playing GK2 then, to make the choice even more difficult.

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