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| 3 JAN 2003 at 1:08am |
MichalNGrand Inquisitor
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By bistro (3 JAN 2003 12:49am)
When Pandora Directive starts up, it shows that card as being a 3mb vid card!! Geez Louise!
And the point is? What difference do you think it makes to Pandora Directive?
Why such a slow vid card? Is there any way to change that? Or is that the only card it can simulate? Because maybe that was the only chip the VPC developers could get enough info on to emulate properly? Because S3 Trio was a widely used and supported chip? Yes, it is the only card VPC simulates AFAIK (and the emulation isn't 100% either).
I see no way of allowing the "virtual" vid card to share some of the sytem RAM either. This is frustrating as hell!! Pleae help!
Again, what difference do you think it'd make to Pandora Directive if VPC emulated a 128MB Radeon 9700?
Hmm, lots of questions
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| 3 JAN 2003 at 1:19am |
Agustín CordesGuild Master
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Joined: 23 OCT 2002
Location: AR, Buenos Aires
Status : Offline | The question is: what is your system? Pandora Directive very smoothly (with a just minor sound glitches) under Virtual PC in my system, which is a XP1600 GF3Ti200 256 DDR.
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| 3 JAN 2003 at 2:05am |
InlandAZGuild Master
Posts : 5586
Joined: 4 MAY 2007
Status : Offline | The question is: what is your system?
With Virtual PC - My guess is it's a MAC.
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| 3 JAN 2003 at 3:51am |
bistroSorcerer Apprentice
Posts : 240
Joined: 15 OCT 2002
Status : Online | Running XP on a P3 933mhz/512mb SDRAM with a GeForce2 32mb card...but that shouldn't make a difference with an emulation. As far as difference with PD, it's acting like it needs more vid memory. Sound is OK, but all graphics (vid and interface) are extremely slow (slow fade in, fade out of the interface and the movies are very choppy). I allocated plenty of memory to the setup (128mb...over the recommended 32mb).
When I ran this game in a Win 95 system many moons ago, I had no problem--had a 16mb card in there at the time, then a 32mb. It's just I noticed PD sees the virtual card as just 3 mb---thought that may be the culprit; that PD may need more vid memory than that to run properly.
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| 3 JAN 2003 at 4:01am |
MichalNGrand Inquisitor
Posts : 7058
Joined: 14 SEP 2003
Status : Online | Originally Posted By bistro (3 JAN 2003 3:50am)
Running XP on a P3 933mhz/512mb SDRAM with a GeForce2 32mb card...but that shouldn't make a difference with an emulation.
It sure could. VPC is quite CPU intensive.
As far as difference with PD, it's acting like it needs more vid memory. Sound is OK, but all graphics (vid and interface) are extremely slow (slow fade in, fade out of the interface and the movies are very choppy).
I still don't follow your reasoning - why do you think more video memory would help? 3MB is plenty for double (even triple) buffering and I'm sure this game doesn't need any more than that and will not benefit from more.
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| 3 JAN 2003 at 4:26am |
InlandAZGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Running XP on a P3 933mhz/512mb SDRAM with a GeForce2 32mb card...but that shouldn't make a difference with an emulation
Wow - I just ran the game on a PIII 550, 512MB, 98SE W/GF3 TI... No problem at all.
Did you go through the readme.txt file that's installed? There were several performance tips.
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| 3 JAN 2003 at 5:38am |
MichalNGrand Inquisitor
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Joined: 14 SEP 2003
Status : Online | Originally Posted By InlandAZ (3 JAN 2003 4:26am)
Wow - I just ran the game on a PIII 550, 512MB, 98SE W/GF3 TI... No problem at all.
But that wasn't under VPC I presume. I'm sure your machine is a total overkill for this game if you play it "straight", but through VPC it might be an entirely different story.
Emulation of games is generally extremely resource intensive. Just look at emulators of platforms like C64 or Amiga. For really good C64 emulation you need a Pentium somewhere in the 100MHz range - to emulate a wimpy 1MHz 8bit CPU and all the supporting chips. Amiga of course needs even more horsepower.
I forgot my sig.
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| 3 JAN 2003 at 1:22pm |
InlandAZGuild Master
Posts : 5586
Joined: 4 MAY 2007
Status : Offline | Emulation of games is generally extremely resource intensive.
They absolutely are - I know, I've run nearly all of them at one time or another.
I'm curious why the need (or desire) to run it under VPC...
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| 3 JAN 2003 at 2:57pm |
Agustín CordesGuild Master
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Joined: 23 OCT 2002
Location: AR, Buenos Aires
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By bistro (3 JAN 2003 3:50am)
Running XP on a P3 933mhz/512mb SDRAM with a GeForce2 32mb card...
Your system is decidely slow, at least to run a game like Pandora Directive under VPC. Keep in mind in emulation the most important thing is the CPU.
I'd recommend giving a higher priority to the VPC process in the task manager (but do not set "realtime"!!).
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| 3 JAN 2003 at 2:59pm |
Agustín CordesGuild Master
Posts : 5696
Joined: 23 OCT 2002
Location: AR, Buenos Aires
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By InlandAZ (3 JAN 2003 2:04am)
With Virtual PC - My guess is it's a MAC.
I think all this god stuff is damaging your brains...
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| 3 JAN 2003 at 3:10pm |
InlandAZGuild Master
Posts : 5586
Joined: 4 MAY 2007
Status : Offline | Maybe we're talking about two different products ?
http://www.kearney.net/~mhoffman/VPC3/
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| 3 JAN 2003 at 3:21pm |
Agustín CordesGuild Master
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Joined: 23 OCT 2002
Location: AR, Buenos Aires
Status : Offline | No, Inland, I was kidding The problem is that Pandora Directive doesn't runs under XP - that's why VPC is needed.
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| 3 JAN 2003 at 6:30pm |
MichalNGrand Inquisitor
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Joined: 14 SEP 2003
Status : Online | Originally Posted By Rael (3 JAN 2003 3:20pm)
The problem is that Pandora Directive doesn't runs under XP - that's why VPC is needed.
Or you can eliminate XP out of the equation
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| 3 JAN 2003 at 7:17pm |
bistroSorcerer Apprentice
Posts : 240
Joined: 15 OCT 2002
Status : Online | Thanks for the suggestions. Tried the priority select under Task Manager...no joy. I really thought that Virtual PC would be a good alternative...thppppppptttt! Dual boot XP/98 is a no go for other reasons. I think what I'll do is break out that old system I cannibalized from and make me a 95...maybe a 95/98 gaming system. But I'll have to wait a while on that...DRAT!!
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