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16 FEB 2005 at 7:10pm

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Argh! I told you not to close the poll so the final ordering wasn't revealed
Oh well, nevermind.

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18 FEB 2005 at 8:08am

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I don't think Gamespot really deserved to get as many votes as it did, considering Silent Hill is closer to being an adventure game than GTA or Pirates.  Really, compared to the other choices I thought there's was the least egregious.  Well, I guess I'd say they were equal to Game Chronicles but consider Chronicles stupider for actually liking LSL that much.  

I always feel there's just a lot of hostility on this board towards Gamespot which always seems to pop up in threads here and there.  Personally I like the site because their reviews are better written than most of the other game sites.  And while they tend to rank adventure games lower than a lot of other sites, they actually tend to rate most games lower than other sites, so it's more that they are very critical than that they have it out for adventure games, as some have suggested.  
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18 FEB 2005 at 2:01pm

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Originally Posted By nytimesguy (18 FEB 2005 8:07am)
I don't think Gamespot really deserved to get as many votes as it did, considering Silent Hill is closer to being an adventure game than GTA or Pirates.  Really, compared to the other choices I thought there's was the least egregious.  Well, I guess I'd say they were equal to Game Chronicles but consider Chronicles stupider for actually liking LSL that much.  

I always feel there's just a lot of hostility on this board towards Gamespot which always seems to pop up in threads here and there.  Personally I like the site because their reviews are better written than most of the other game sites.  And while they tend to rank adventure games lower than a lot of other sites, they actually tend to rate most games lower than other sites, so it's more that they are very critical than that they have it out for adventure games, as some have suggested.  

gamespot is getting the votes mainly for their consistency of mislabeling games as adventures... while you are right, silent hill is far closer to the genre than pirates and gta, gamespot constantly labels "adventure" anything that gameplay includes finding a key or smth :

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18 FEB 2005 at 9:02pm

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Originally Posted By Aya (18 FEB 2005 2:01pm)

gamespot is getting the votes mainly for their consistency of mislabeling games as adventures... while you are right, silent hill is far closer to the genre than pirates and gta, gamespot constantly labels "adventure" anything that gameplay includes finding a key or smth :


I looked up Gamespot reviews for the last six months of games they put in the adventure genre.  I think their big problem is they don't have an action-adventure category, so they are forced to choose one or the other, and I think within that limit some of their dubious categorizations are not entirely unreasonable.  So I'm dividing these into how accurate they are.

Completely accurate:
Alida
Atlantis Evolution
CSI: Crime Scene Investigation      XBOX      Adventure
CSI: Miami      PC
Dark Fall: Lights Out      PC
Law & Order: Justice Is Served
Myst IV Revelation
Return to Mysterious Island
Secret of the Silver Earring
Sentinel: Descendants in Time
Sprung      
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Wanted: A Wild Western Adventure

Action-adventure games I might have listed as adventure games if I had not action-adventure category
Boktai 2: Solar Boy Django
Dog's Life
Fatal Frame II: Crimson Butterfly

Wrong, but understandable considering they are sequels to games that could reasonably have been placed in the adventure category:
Leisure Suit Larry: Magna Cum Laude
Resident Evil 4
Oddworld Stranger's Wrath
Silent Hill 4: The Room

don't know what these are
Adventure Island      
Carmen Sandiego: The Secret of the Stolen Drums
Legacy: Dark Shadows

are either insanely wrong or are games that I'm not familiar with but I know are sequels to games that are completely non-adventure
Grand Theft Auto Advance
Might and Magic
Neverwinter Nights: Mobile
Spy Fiction
The Getaway: Black Monday


Not great, admittedly, but not terrible.  I've seen game review sites that don't even *have* an adventure category and lump adventure games in with something else (so Myst IV could be listed as an action-adventure).  

Sure, it would be great if Gamespot added an action-adventure category and did better with their definitions, but to me it seems that for a site that is not devoted to adventure games and thus does not consider the genre category as sancrosanct as we do here, that they are not especially bad in the matter, and while I don't have the energy to go through all the other major sites to compare, I suspect they're no worse than most and better than quite a few.

(To be clear, I'm not saying Gamespot isn't in the wrong, I'm just saying they seem to get special attention as being particularly bad which I think is undeserved.)
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18 FEB 2005 at 9:24pm

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I agree that Gamespot aren't that bad as these things go. But considering they only came third, I don't really see what the problem is.

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18 FEB 2005 at 9:25pm

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remember, gamespot is a very popular site, so it's natural that they'll get more attention - possitive and negative... what's even worse though, is that gamespot is so popular, it "creates" ppl with arguments like "
insert action/adventure game name here) is an adventure game... i know, i read it in gamespot!" :
so, a site that forms ppl's arguments without any need for logic, definately deserves a motta award!

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