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| 18 FEB 2005 at 8:08am |
nytimesguyPrivate Detective


Posts : 684 Joined: 14 OCT 2002
Status : Online | I don't think Gamespot really deserved to get as many votes as it did, considering Silent Hill is closer to being an adventure game than GTA or Pirates. Really, compared to the other choices I thought there's was the least egregious. Well, I guess I'd say they were equal to Game Chronicles but consider Chronicles stupider for actually liking LSL that much.
I always feel there's just a lot of hostility on this board towards Gamespot which always seems to pop up in threads here and there. Personally I like the site because their reviews are better written than most of the other game sites. And while they tend to rank adventure games lower than a lot of other sites, they actually tend to rate most games lower than other sites, so it's more that they are very critical than that they have it out for adventure games, as some have suggested.
Charles - Game Theorist
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| 18 FEB 2005 at 2:01pm |
AyaGrand Inquisitor


Posts : 7277 Joined: 16 OCT 2002
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By nytimesguy (18 FEB 2005 8:07am) I don't think Gamespot really deserved to get as many votes as it did, considering Silent Hill is closer to being an adventure game than GTA or Pirates. Really, compared to the other choices I thought there's was the least egregious. Well, I guess I'd say they were equal to Game Chronicles but consider Chronicles stupider for actually liking LSL that much.
I always feel there's just a lot of hostility on this board towards Gamespot which always seems to pop up in threads here and there. Personally I like the site because their reviews are better written than most of the other game sites. And while they tend to rank adventure games lower than a lot of other sites, they actually tend to rate most games lower than other sites, so it's more that they are very critical than that they have it out for adventure games, as some have suggested. gamespot is getting the votes mainly for their consistency of mislabeling games as adventures... while you are right, silent hill is far closer to the genre than pirates and gta, gamespot constantly labels "adventure" anything that gameplay includes finding a key or smth :
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| 18 FEB 2005 at 9:02pm |
nytimesguyPrivate Detective


Posts : 684 Joined: 14 OCT 2002
Status : Online | Originally Posted By Aya (18 FEB 2005 2:01pm)
gamespot is getting the votes mainly for their consistency of mislabeling games as adventures... while you are right, silent hill is far closer to the genre than pirates and gta, gamespot constantly labels "adventure" anything that gameplay includes finding a key or smth :
I looked up Gamespot reviews for the last six months of games they put in the adventure genre. I think their big problem is they don't have an action-adventure category, so they are forced to choose one or the other, and I think within that limit some of their dubious categorizations are not entirely unreasonable. So I'm dividing these into how accurate they are.
Completely accurate: Alida Atlantis Evolution CSI: Crime Scene Investigation XBOX Adventure CSI: Miami PC Dark Fall: Lights Out PC Law & Order: Justice Is Served Myst IV Revelation Return to Mysterious Island Secret of the Silver Earring Sentinel: Descendants in Time Sprung  S Wanted: A Wild Western Adventure
Action-adventure games I might have listed as adventure games if I had not action-adventure category Boktai 2: Solar Boy Django Dog's Life Fatal Frame II: Crimson Butterfly
Wrong, but understandable considering they are sequels to games that could reasonably have been placed in the adventure category: Leisure Suit Larry: Magna Cum Laude Resident Evil 4 Oddworld Stranger's Wrath Silent Hill 4: The Room
don't know what these are Adventure Island Carmen Sandiego: The Secret of the Stolen Drums Legacy: Dark Shadows
are either insanely wrong or are games that I'm not familiar with but I know are sequels to games that are completely non-adventure Grand Theft Auto Advance Might and Magic Neverwinter Nights: Mobile Spy Fiction The Getaway: Black Monday
Not great, admittedly, but not terrible. I've seen game review sites that don't even *have* an adventure category and lump adventure games in with something else (so Myst IV could be listed as an action-adventure).
Sure, it would be great if Gamespot added an action-adventure category and did better with their definitions, but to me it seems that for a site that is not devoted to adventure games and thus does not consider the genre category as sancrosanct as we do here, that they are not especially bad in the matter, and while I don't have the energy to go through all the other major sites to compare, I suspect they're no worse than most and better than quite a few.
(To be clear, I'm not saying Gamespot isn't in the wrong, I'm just saying they seem to get special attention as being particularly bad which I think is undeserved.)
Charles - Game Theorist
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| 18 FEB 2005 at 9:24pm |
KsandraSchattenjger


Posts : 2459 Joined: 2 APR 2003
Status : Online | I agree that Gamespot aren't that bad as these things go. But considering they only came third, I don't really see what the problem is.
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| 18 FEB 2005 at 9:25pm |
AyaGrand Inquisitor


Posts : 7277 Joined: 16 OCT 2002
Status : Offline | remember, gamespot is a very popular site, so it's natural that they'll get more attention - possitive and negative... what's even worse though, is that gamespot is so popular, it "creates" ppl with arguments like "insert action/adventure game name here) is an adventure game... i know, i read it in gamespot!" : so, a site that forms ppl's arguments without any need for logic, definately deserves a motta award!
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